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	<title>Comments on: Sitemasher Provides Cost-Effective Tools for Web Developers</title>
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		<title>By: SGWhois</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/sitemasher-provides-cost-effective-tools-for-web-developers/#comment-274504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SGWhois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[99/mth is pricey, for a developer edition. Getting a wordpress to be hosted on a stable server, can serve the same purpose with the thousands of plugins available]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99/mth is pricey, for a developer edition. Getting a wordpress to be hosted on a stable server, can serve the same purpose with the thousands of plugins available</p>
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		<title>By: seo jaipur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seo jaipur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there is many ways to when you can successful investing in your business.for that you
 just search about the millionaires who is already exists in this world and just read about
 their strategy and than you can compare there strategy and with your strategy and then you
can start your business with full of excitement and invest on it.
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Rockstarbabu
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is many ways to when you can successful investing in your business.for that you<br />
 just search about the millionaires who is already exists in this world and just read about<br />
 their strategy and than you can compare there strategy and with your strategy and then you<br />
can start your business with full of excitement and invest on it.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Rockstarbabu<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Vance Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vance Lucas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$99/month is a huge amount of money for the FIRST tier. They&#039;re really limiting their market with those kinds of prices, especially when you consider the resell factor.  At $99/month for the lowest account level, there&#039;s no room for markup to be added by the designer or developer who sells it to a client.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$99/month is a huge amount of money for the FIRST tier. They&#8217;re really limiting their market with those kinds of prices, especially when you consider the resell factor.  At $99/month for the lowest account level, there&#8217;s no room for markup to be added by the designer or developer who sells it to a client.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Themmen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Themmen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and powerful enough for a seasoned designer to take to the next level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and powerful enough for a seasoned designer to take to the next level.</p>
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		<title>By: PETER</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/sitemasher-provides-cost-effective-tools-for-web-developers/#comment-77035</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PETER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, is sitesmasher great for the person who has never created a site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, is sitesmasher great for the person who has never created a site.</p>
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		<title>By: Sitemasher Provides Cost-Effective Tools for Web Developers &#124; WEBSITE DESIGNING - Everything One Needs to Know</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sitemasher Provides Cost-Effective Tools for Web Developers &#124; WEBSITE DESIGNING - Everything One Needs to Know]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the client or continue to easily manage the site for the client. There are two views to Sitemasher: Read more [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the client or continue to easily manage the site for the client. There are two views to Sitemasher: Read more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Themmen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/sitemasher-provides-cost-effective-tools-for-web-developers/#comment-77033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Themmen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;ve ever had to implement a CMS such as Drupal or Wordpress, you understand the processes involved. If you run a VPS, you have to setup MySQL, IIS or WAMP, setup anti-virus and then install Drupal or Wordpress, edit config files, permissions, maybe a mod-rewrite function to prevent SQL injection attacks.

Now that that&#039;s all installed, you have to go out and search for modules that support your clients needs and then you have to implement a theme. Of course you could go and grab a theme off the shelf, but do you really want to hand off a site with a theme that 100s of others have used. Either you create a custom theme (no small feat I may add) or tweak an existing one (easier but still a task).

Then you have to &quot;manage the code&quot;. A new release or update, you now have to go and update 15 wordpress accounts, 20 Drupal systems, all the while being aware that the modules you used have not been updated yet. And that&#039;s just one site. ughh. I don&#039;t even want to think about it.  All this time spent &quot;managing code&quot; when you could be busting out 3-4 new designs for new clients, moving forward.

Plus, the pains my clients have had in the past with custom broken, unsupported  CMS&#039;s, $99 bucks a month for something they can simply update and manage themselves is a bargain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve ever had to implement a CMS such as Drupal or WordPress, you understand the processes involved. If you run a VPS, you have to setup MySQL, IIS or WAMP, setup anti-virus and then install Drupal or WordPress, edit config files, permissions, maybe a mod-rewrite function to prevent SQL injection attacks.</p>
<p>Now that that&#8217;s all installed, you have to go out and search for modules that support your clients needs and then you have to implement a theme. Of course you could go and grab a theme off the shelf, but do you really want to hand off a site with a theme that 100s of others have used. Either you create a custom theme (no small feat I may add) or tweak an existing one (easier but still a task).</p>
<p>Then you have to &#8220;manage the code&#8221;. A new release or update, you now have to go and update 15 wordpress accounts, 20 Drupal systems, all the while being aware that the modules you used have not been updated yet. And that&#8217;s just one site. ughh. I don&#8217;t even want to think about it.  All this time spent &#8220;managing code&#8221; when you could be busting out 3-4 new designs for new clients, moving forward.</p>
<p>Plus, the pains my clients have had in the past with custom broken, unsupported  CMS&#8217;s, $99 bucks a month for something they can simply update and manage themselves is a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Moura</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Moura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting idea.

But I&#039;d suggest some more basic features like a calendaring module, newsletter feature, ability to send newsletters by email (Listserve), etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting idea.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d suggest some more basic features like a calendaring module, newsletter feature, ability to send newsletters by email (Listserve), etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliza Sherman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/sitemasher-provides-cost-effective-tools-for-web-developers/#comment-77031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aliza Sherman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Colin - Not trying to justify $99/month - but trying to understand it and realizing that when all is said and done, some organizations and companies spend more than that on a monthly basis (sometimes amortized) to have an integrated solution. I still do get this feeling of sticker shock but am actually warming up to the idea. It is not right for everyone, but I can definitely see times when it makes sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin &#8211; Not trying to justify $99/month &#8211; but trying to understand it and realizing that when all is said and done, some organizations and companies spend more than that on a monthly basis (sometimes amortized) to have an integrated solution. I still do get this feeling of sticker shock but am actually warming up to the idea. It is not right for everyone, but I can definitely see times when it makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Denil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicole Denil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Sara,

Thanks for joining in.  I see what you are saying and I hope I can make a  distinction between the other solutions you mentioned.

On the web hosting plans you mentioned...it&#039;s that it&#039;s not just the website that is hosted....it&#039;s the whole tool, end-to-end.  So, you build your site, preview (and share the preview with customers), and do the CMS, SEO, and all the forms and the associated database/data are hosted as well...all within the platform.   And the managed, cloud hosting environment provides a whole host of benefits vs. the traditional hosting model.

The tools you mentioned (Wordpress, Joomla, and Drupal), while great for content management, lack in the area of creating pixel-perfect websites.  If you want to create a pixel perfect site, you typically would create a site exactly how you want it, then either integrate a CMS on the backend (big bucks), or have  service contract with the design firm for the maintenance.  The other option is to use a CMS from the beginning (using the CMS environment), but then you lose the control of the pixel perfection.  So, it comes down to a conundrum where you have to decide whether to build a custom site ground up and then integrate a CMS, or build the site on the CMS and sacrifice some of the control of the look and feel.  That is one of the fundamental things Sitemasher tries to solve by having pixel perfect design (drag-and-drop, Visual CSS, etc,.) combined with a really rich, role based, CMS.  Since Sitemasher is aimed at professional web designers, the idea is to allow them to create pixel perfect designs while still allowing the content management to be easy (either for the designer or the customer).

With the pricing, it&#039;s a lot more about TCO when you look at how much it costs to build the site, manage the content and site updates, perform the SEO, etc.

Looking forward to more feedback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sara,</p>
<p>Thanks for joining in.  I see what you are saying and I hope I can make a  distinction between the other solutions you mentioned.</p>
<p>On the web hosting plans you mentioned&#8230;it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s not just the website that is hosted&#8230;.it&#8217;s the whole tool, end-to-end.  So, you build your site, preview (and share the preview with customers), and do the CMS, SEO, and all the forms and the associated database/data are hosted as well&#8230;all within the platform.   And the managed, cloud hosting environment provides a whole host of benefits vs. the traditional hosting model.</p>
<p>The tools you mentioned (WordPress, Joomla, and Drupal), while great for content management, lack in the area of creating pixel-perfect websites.  If you want to create a pixel perfect site, you typically would create a site exactly how you want it, then either integrate a CMS on the backend (big bucks), or have  service contract with the design firm for the maintenance.  The other option is to use a CMS from the beginning (using the CMS environment), but then you lose the control of the pixel perfection.  So, it comes down to a conundrum where you have to decide whether to build a custom site ground up and then integrate a CMS, or build the site on the CMS and sacrifice some of the control of the look and feel.  That is one of the fundamental things Sitemasher tries to solve by having pixel perfect design (drag-and-drop, Visual CSS, etc,.) combined with a really rich, role based, CMS.  Since Sitemasher is aimed at professional web designers, the idea is to allow them to create pixel perfect designs while still allowing the content management to be easy (either for the designer or the customer).</p>
<p>With the pricing, it&#8217;s a lot more about TCO when you look at how much it costs to build the site, manage the content and site updates, perform the SEO, etc.</p>
<p>Looking forward to more feedback.</p>
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