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		<title>By: ~ender</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67606</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends on what&#039;s meant by relationships.

One of my friends was astounded by Ozzy Osbourne(? maybe it was another minor celeb like him) who he&#039;d met in person once 10 years ago.  Ozzy not only recognized him, and pulled the correct name out of memory, but also picked up the conversation where they left off, asking about relatives etc.  Ozzy was meeting people publically, and probably meets 1,000s to 10s of thousands yearly.  He might not get to talk to every single one of them, but still - that&#039;s got to be rather large.  Even if Ozzy doesn&#039;t have to devote time to &#039;work&#039; per se, and can devote all his time to relationships.

So I think there&#039;s a wide variability in an individual&#039;s number.  The average might be 150, and probably won&#039;t go below 20 for mentally &#039;average&#039; people, even if they don&#039;t use their whole span.  But conversely, I think there are some people out there who have *much* higher numbers, even if they don&#039;t get the chance to use them all (limited hours in the day - e.g. Ozzy can&#039;t talk to each person he knows, even if he can remember them, recognize them after years apart, etc, etc.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on what&#8217;s meant by relationships.</p>
<p>One of my friends was astounded by Ozzy Osbourne(? maybe it was another minor celeb like him) who he&#8217;d met in person once 10 years ago.  Ozzy not only recognized him, and pulled the correct name out of memory, but also picked up the conversation where they left off, asking about relatives etc.  Ozzy was meeting people publically, and probably meets 1,000s to 10s of thousands yearly.  He might not get to talk to every single one of them, but still &#8211; that&#8217;s got to be rather large.  Even if Ozzy doesn&#8217;t have to devote time to &#8216;work&#8217; per se, and can devote all his time to relationships.</p>
<p>So I think there&#8217;s a wide variability in an individual&#8217;s number.  The average might be 150, and probably won&#8217;t go below 20 for mentally &#8216;average&#8217; people, even if they don&#8217;t use their whole span.  But conversely, I think there are some people out there who have *much* higher numbers, even if they don&#8217;t get the chance to use them all (limited hours in the day &#8211; e.g. Ozzy can&#8217;t talk to each person he knows, even if he can remember them, recognize them after years apart, etc, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter: What&#8217;s your Dunbar number? - - mathewingram.com/work</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twitter: What&#8217;s your Dunbar number? - - mathewingram.com/work]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] does that produce any real value on either end? I wonder. Twitter seems to be riding that line, and it&#8217;s interesting to watch [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] does that produce any real value on either end? I wonder. Twitter seems to be riding that line, and it&#8217;s interesting to watch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post makes me feel better. I&#039;ve always had this nagging feeling that, if only I were more organized, then I could keep up with more people. This post helps me to see that there are limits and that limits can be good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post makes me feel better. I&#8217;ve always had this nagging feeling that, if only I were more organized, then I could keep up with more people. This post helps me to see that there are limits and that limits can be good.</p>
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		<title>By: What’s Your Digital Dunbar Number? - Noticias externas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What’s Your Digital Dunbar Number? - Noticias externas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] minds than me have been blogging about Dunbar during the week including Matt Rutherford who introduced me to it. Anything that JP Rangaswami is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] minds than me have been blogging about Dunbar during the week including Matt Rutherford who introduced me to it. Anything that JP Rangaswami is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67602</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meredith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me at least, I think the limitation of Dunbar number is more of a mental one.

Technology affects how quickly and efficiently I can communicate with a certain number of people. My limit, however, is not so much time, as memory. I can only remember details about the lives of so many people before I forget about them.

Regardless of whether I get those details via my blog, micro-blog, email, phone, in person, whatever -- I am still limited by the capabilities of my memory to remember those details and recall them when next I communicate with a friend. And isn&#039;t that one of the most fundamental criteria for a meaningful social relationship?

I guess technology can serve to remind us of some of those details (e.g. I can go back and review old emails to remember my friend&#039;s boyfriend&#039;s name and what he does for a living), so perhaps technology helps nudge one&#039;s Dunbar number a bit higher, but I don&#039;t think my number has significantly increased as I&#039;ve come to rely more and more on technology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me at least, I think the limitation of Dunbar number is more of a mental one.</p>
<p>Technology affects how quickly and efficiently I can communicate with a certain number of people. My limit, however, is not so much time, as memory. I can only remember details about the lives of so many people before I forget about them.</p>
<p>Regardless of whether I get those details via my blog, micro-blog, email, phone, in person, whatever &#8212; I am still limited by the capabilities of my memory to remember those details and recall them when next I communicate with a friend. And isn&#8217;t that one of the most fundamental criteria for a meaningful social relationship?</p>
<p>I guess technology can serve to remind us of some of those details (e.g. I can go back and review old emails to remember my friend&#8217;s boyfriend&#8217;s name and what he does for a living), so perhaps technology helps nudge one&#8217;s Dunbar number a bit higher, but I don&#8217;t think my number has significantly increased as I&#8217;ve come to rely more and more on technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Clayton: Geek In Disguise : What’s Your Digital Dunbar Number?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Clayton: Geek In Disguise : What’s Your Digital Dunbar Number?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] minds than me have been blogging about Dunbar during the week including Matt Rutherford who introduced me to it. Anything that JP Rangaswami is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] minds than me have been blogging about Dunbar during the week including Matt Rutherford who introduced me to it. Anything that JP Rangaswami is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Your Digital Friends: Less is More&#124; Zoli&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Your Digital Friends: Less is More&#124; Zoli&#8217;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] not a regular reader of JP&#8217;s blog - discovered this post via Anne Zelenka at Web Worker Daily, but even if I was a subscriber, I would not consider myself a &#8220;friend&#8221;.&#160; I might [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not a regular reader of JP&#8217;s blog &#8211; discovered this post via Anne Zelenka at Web Worker Daily, but even if I was a subscriber, I would not consider myself a &#8220;friend&#8221;.&nbsp; I might [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Zelenka</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Zelenka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Logical Extremes: that would depend on who you add as Twitter friends. I follow almost only people who I know in other ways -- either in person or via some other electronic channel. They do largely represent stable social relationships to me.

Quantity is not irrelevant when you&#039;re talking about Dunbar&#039;s number; it&#039;s a limit not some sort of goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Logical Extremes: that would depend on who you add as Twitter friends. I follow almost only people who I know in other ways &#8212; either in person or via some other electronic channel. They do largely represent stable social relationships to me.</p>
<p>Quantity is not irrelevant when you&#8217;re talking about Dunbar&#8217;s number; it&#8217;s a limit not some sort of goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Logical Extremes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Logical Extremes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that &quot;following&quot; people on Twitter would be considered &quot;stable social relationships&quot;. A social relationship implies a two-way street, and in my book, one that I value with some significance. That&#039;s not to say that online social tools can&#039;t be part of real relationships, but you can&#039;t just add up all the numbers and think it means anything.

I&#039;ve always been much more of a fan of relationship quality. What&#039;s important is my family, my best friends, a few valued colleagues. People that transcend power relationships or quid pro quo. Quantity is irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;following&#8221; people on Twitter would be considered &#8220;stable social relationships&#8221;. A social relationship implies a two-way street, and in my book, one that I value with some significance. That&#8217;s not to say that online social tools can&#8217;t be part of real relationships, but you can&#8217;t just add up all the numbers and think it means anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been much more of a fan of relationship quality. What&#8217;s important is my family, my best friends, a few valued colleagues. People that transcend power relationships or quid pro quo. Quantity is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Whats your Dunbar number? &#124; mattrutherford.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whats your Dunbar number? &#124; mattrutherford.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Interesting article over at Web Worker Daily - I think my Dunbar number is low, probably about 100/120. Keeping track of all these relationships is difficult - but if you look around, the tools are out there to help you. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Interesting article over at Web Worker Daily &#8211; I think my Dunbar number is low, probably about 100/120. Keeping track of all these relationships is difficult &#8211; but if you look around, the tools are out there to help you. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/open-thread-whats-your-digital-dunbar-number/#comment-67596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever my Dunbar number is, the online relationships make up part of that total. And I also think I&#039;m Dunbar Challenged. My number (a total of all off and online socially stable relationsps) is probably 75 at the most]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever my Dunbar number is, the online relationships make up part of that total. And I also think I&#8217;m Dunbar Challenged. My number (a total of all off and online socially stable relationsps) is probably 75 at the most</p>
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