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		<title>By: CodeAway &#187; New York&#8217;s Freelancers Union</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54559</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CodeAway &#187; New York&#8217;s Freelancers Union]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Web Worker Daily: New York’s Freelancers Union is a 40,000-strong association of the new type of worker in New [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Web Worker Daily: New York’s Freelancers Union is a 40,000-strong association of the new type of worker in New [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amie Gillingham</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amie Gillingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Mark

There may be another local org that can let you buy into group insurance and resources that isn&#039;t necessarily freelancer-centric. For example, our small home-based company was able to join the Pittsburgh Technology Council.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark</p>
<p>There may be another local org that can let you buy into group insurance and resources that isn&#8217;t necessarily freelancer-centric. For example, our small home-based company was able to join the Pittsburgh Technology Council.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where&#039;s the Freelancers Union alternative outside of NY? Anyone know of one in MA? Or is it individual plans?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the Freelancers Union alternative outside of NY? Anyone know of one in MA? Or is it individual plans?</p>
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		<title>By: burntouthacker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54556</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[burntouthacker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew, that&#039;s terribly bad luck... you guys really have the most screwed up health care for a first world country.

My son was born 6 months ago, thankfully with no complications, and at the end of the day the Australian government *gave us* A$4000. That&#039;s in addition to no cost for public hospital ante-natal care, the delivery, etc. Our only out of pocket expenses were about A$400 for additional sonograms, they were by no means necessary, but I got to see my son&#039;s face before he was born (3D/4D scan)

Then my wife, as a school teacher, was entitled to 12 weeks of paid maternity leave.

Makes me feel ungrateful for complaining about a case of burnout. As a new parent, I sincerely hope for the best outcome for your family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, that&#8217;s terribly bad luck&#8230; you guys really have the most screwed up health care for a first world country.</p>
<p>My son was born 6 months ago, thankfully with no complications, and at the end of the day the Australian government *gave us* A$4000. That&#8217;s in addition to no cost for public hospital ante-natal care, the delivery, etc. Our only out of pocket expenses were about A$400 for additional sonograms, they were by no means necessary, but I got to see my son&#8217;s face before he was born (3D/4D scan)</p>
<p>Then my wife, as a school teacher, was entitled to 12 weeks of paid maternity leave.</p>
<p>Makes me feel ungrateful for complaining about a case of burnout. As a new parent, I sincerely hope for the best outcome for your family.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reinbold</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Reinbold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m definitely in that burnout area right now. Things were going along swimmingly and I loaded up on work for my web worker self and then had a disastrous (and, just as bad, time consuming) medical problem happen.

I love making a living with little more than a laptop and thought stuff but right now I feel so vulnerable. I think back to my cubical days - there I had the support of a large organizations where, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.prosper.com/public/lend/listing.aspx?listingID=91152&quot; title=&quot;my Prosper.com listing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;when this kind of thing happens&lt;/a&gt;, I could take the time off to deal with things and know I had a paycheck and a place when I was ready to come back.  As it is now I&#039;m in and out of doctors offices during the day and up until the wee hours scrambling to catch up. The clients aren&#039;t getting my best work, I&#039;m (at best) running in circles fighting fires, and time for new customer acquisition is the last thing on my mind.

We NEED networks of support so that web workers aren&#039;t one tragedy away from returning to a day job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely in that burnout area right now. Things were going along swimmingly and I loaded up on work for my web worker self and then had a disastrous (and, just as bad, time consuming) medical problem happen.</p>
<p>I love making a living with little more than a laptop and thought stuff but right now I feel so vulnerable. I think back to my cubical days &#8211; there I had the support of a large organizations where, <a href="https://www.prosper.com/public/lend/listing.aspx?listingID=91152" title="my Prosper.com listing" rel="nofollow">when this kind of thing happens</a>, I could take the time off to deal with things and know I had a paycheck and a place when I was ready to come back.  As it is now I&#8217;m in and out of doctors offices during the day and up until the wee hours scrambling to catch up. The clients aren&#8217;t getting my best work, I&#8217;m (at best) running in circles fighting fires, and time for new customer acquisition is the last thing on my mind.</p>
<p>We NEED networks of support so that web workers aren&#8217;t one tragedy away from returning to a day job.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier Watson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xavier Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the reason that artists form collectives, I think.

Since humans are such social creatures, having positive re-enforcement, shared values and aspirations, etc. from the people around you is necessary to achieve daring goals. I do not mean this in just an abstract sense, but physical as well; family and friends on the one hand, neighbors, coworkers... the people who share your physical space on the other.

If you ever begin to feel like the pressure to conform to those around you is growing, do not take it as some kind of personal weakness. We are social animals, and all that. Think about surrounding yourself with the right sort of people, instead.

If you are young and single, look for art lofts or other collective living spaces -- or coordinate leases and forge a new one with your friends.

If you are married, have children, or laden with property and such, no matter -- look ahead to the future and think about moving into close proximity with friends when the kids are out of college or at retirement. A neighborhood or virtual village.

Much, much easier said than done. I think the people, or groups, that figure it out first will be the ones that succeed most going forward; how will chronically disgruntled individuals compete against the creative (or even economic) output of a network of supportive cheer?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the reason that artists form collectives, I think.</p>
<p>Since humans are such social creatures, having positive re-enforcement, shared values and aspirations, etc. from the people around you is necessary to achieve daring goals. I do not mean this in just an abstract sense, but physical as well; family and friends on the one hand, neighbors, coworkers&#8230; the people who share your physical space on the other.</p>
<p>If you ever begin to feel like the pressure to conform to those around you is growing, do not take it as some kind of personal weakness. We are social animals, and all that. Think about surrounding yourself with the right sort of people, instead.</p>
<p>If you are young and single, look for art lofts or other collective living spaces &#8212; or coordinate leases and forge a new one with your friends.</p>
<p>If you are married, have children, or laden with property and such, no matter &#8212; look ahead to the future and think about moving into close proximity with friends when the kids are out of college or at retirement. A neighborhood or virtual village.</p>
<p>Much, much easier said than done. I think the people, or groups, that figure it out first will be the ones that succeed most going forward; how will chronically disgruntled individuals compete against the creative (or even economic) output of a network of supportive cheer?</p>
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		<title>By: burntouthacker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[burntouthacker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as much as I hate the burnout phase I&#039;m going thru here right now, I wouldn&#039;t trade the last 4 years of working from home for the desk-bound wage slavery of my previous jobs.

People in suits can think what they like, but I hope that when they see me wandering out to check the mail in shorts and a t-shirt on a summer afternoon, they wonder what they&#039;re missing - because in a good month, I probably make twice what they do :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as much as I hate the burnout phase I&#8217;m going thru here right now, I wouldn&#8217;t trade the last 4 years of working from home for the desk-bound wage slavery of my previous jobs.</p>
<p>People in suits can think what they like, but I hope that when they see me wandering out to check the mail in shorts and a t-shirt on a summer afternoon, they wonder what they&#8217;re missing &#8211; because in a good month, I probably make twice what they do :-)</p>
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		<title>By: John Beales</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Beales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s awesome to see you mentioned dancers as part of the 18.6 million businesses with no paid employees.  That&#039;s my other job!  Dance in the morning, web work in the afternoon, (usually).  One of the reasons I do web work is because it&#039;s so flexible I can change my schedule around dance.

My tax returns are something else though...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s awesome to see you mentioned dancers as part of the 18.6 million businesses with no paid employees.  That&#8217;s my other job!  Dance in the morning, web work in the afternoon, (usually).  One of the reasons I do web work is because it&#8217;s so flexible I can change my schedule around dance.</p>
<p>My tax returns are something else though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amie Gillingham</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/here-come-the-web-workers/#comment-54551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amie Gillingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My company&#039;s whole business model is online culture, community, and marketing tools for artists selling their work online, with the internet giving them access to peer support and global exposure (and resulting sales) that they might not have gotten had they stayed in the vacuum of working solo from home. I do think that what we&#039;re doing is going to become more and more common as we see nichified groups of self-employed people coming together to form larger communities online and leveraging their collective power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company&#8217;s whole business model is online culture, community, and marketing tools for artists selling their work online, with the internet giving them access to peer support and global exposure (and resulting sales) that they might not have gotten had they stayed in the vacuum of working solo from home. I do think that what we&#8217;re doing is going to become more and more common as we see nichified groups of self-employed people coming together to form larger communities online and leveraging their collective power.</p>
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