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		<title>By: timtak</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-598374</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 03:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My university has a online system for submitting grades but we have to submit paper based grades too.

How difficult would it be to include a computer or IP address check in their online system? 

Can it easily be done in php? asp? Java?

Can a computer user fake the IP/computer using a clever browser/virtual machine setup?

When you say that that some &quot;software timestamps your signature and records the computer you used,&quot; what is it about the machine that the software records (MAC address? Hard Disk serial number?) and is this available to online systems?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My university has a online system for submitting grades but we have to submit paper based grades too.</p>
<p>How difficult would it be to include a computer or IP address check in their online system? </p>
<p>Can it easily be done in php? asp? Java?</p>
<p>Can a computer user fake the IP/computer using a clever browser/virtual machine setup?</p>
<p>When you say that that some &#8220;software timestamps your signature and records the computer you used,&#8221; what is it about the machine that the software records (MAC address? Hard Disk serial number?) and is this available to online systems?</p>
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		<title>By: Sign Documents Electronically With Adobe eSignatures&#160;&#124;&#160;Stocks!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sign Documents Electronically With Adobe eSignatures&#160;&#124;&#160;Stocks!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Act (UETA), making its electronic signatures legally valid in the U.S., although there are other factors to take into consideration when choosing whether to sign documents [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Act (UETA), making its electronic signatures legally valid in the U.S., although there are other factors to take into consideration when choosing whether to sign documents [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sign Documents Electronically With Adobe eSignatures</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sign Documents Electronically With Adobe eSignatures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Act (UETA), making its electronic signatures legally valid in the U.S., although there are other factors to take into consideration when choosing whether to sign documents [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Act (UETA), making its electronic signatures legally valid in the U.S., although there are other factors to take into consideration when choosing whether to sign documents [...]</p>
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		<title>By: community.outright.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[community.outright.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and printouts few and far between.  But for now, at least until everybody adopts and recognizes electronic signatures, faxes are still almost essential to the modern office For instance, there are some things very [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and printouts few and far between.  But for now, at least until everybody adopts and recognizes electronic signatures, faxes are still almost essential to the modern office For instance, there are some things very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Jacobs- eOriginal, inc.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Jacobs- eOriginal, inc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great information! You all have some very good feedback and Tony, I like how you were able to outline the key components of electronic signatures. I work for eOriginal, Inc. and your post is a summary of our capabilities. We are one of the only services who provide a beginning to end turnkey solution.

When thinking about implementing electronic signatures into your current business process, you want everything to be simple for the sender and the signer, but you also want it to be admissible, managed and secure. If you are signing high value documents, you don’t want to be caught by surprise three years down the road with a contract that does not hold-up in court or can not be held as financial collateral.

I would suggest doing your homework before hand. If you are going to make this type of investment in your business, invest in something that is tailored around your needs and will grow with your business. Feel free to contact me and I will more than happy to help. eOriginal.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great information! You all have some very good feedback and Tony, I like how you were able to outline the key components of electronic signatures. I work for eOriginal, Inc. and your post is a summary of our capabilities. We are one of the only services who provide a beginning to end turnkey solution.</p>
<p>When thinking about implementing electronic signatures into your current business process, you want everything to be simple for the sender and the signer, but you also want it to be admissible, managed and secure. If you are signing high value documents, you don’t want to be caught by surprise three years down the road with a contract that does not hold-up in court or can not be held as financial collateral.</p>
<p>I would suggest doing your homework before hand. If you are going to make this type of investment in your business, invest in something that is tailored around your needs and will grow with your business. Feel free to contact me and I will more than happy to help. eOriginal.com</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Faxing Solutions for the Office on a Shoestring Budget &#124; Outright Entrepreneurs</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Internet Faxing Solutions for the Office on a Shoestring Budget &#124; Outright Entrepreneurs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and printouts few and far between.  But for now, at least until everybody adopts and recognizes electronic signatures, faxes are still almost essential to the modern office For instance, there are some things very [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and printouts few and far between.  But for now, at least until everybody adopts and recognizes electronic signatures, faxes are still almost essential to the modern office For instance, there are some things very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: scop</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank. I will review tomorrow, it&#039;s midnight here in the uk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank. I will review tomorrow, it&#8217;s midnight here in the uk.</p>
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		<title>By: An Bui, DocuSign Social Media</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An Bui, DocuSign Social Media]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scop, Thank you for your feedback - if you want more information about DocuSign&#039;s authentication practices, please take a look at this whitepaper:
http://www.docusign.com/resources/whitepapers/best_practices.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scop, Thank you for your feedback &#8211; if you want more information about DocuSign&#8217;s authentication practices, please take a look at this whitepaper:<br />
<a href="http://www.docusign.com/resources/whitepapers/best_practices.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.docusign.com/resources/whitepapers/best_practices.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: scop</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[certs have some security. SSL is based on certs. Any other option seems futile. Even if it does take off it will be an accident waiting to happen. Saying that, we have to have an open mind.

Just went to the website of DocuSign to have a look and its not very clear...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>certs have some security. SSL is based on certs. Any other option seems futile. Even if it does take off it will be an accident waiting to happen. Saying that, we have to have an open mind.</p>
<p>Just went to the website of DocuSign to have a look and its not very clear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Links for October 23rd through October 27th &#124; Akkam's Razor</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daily Links for October 23rd through October 27th &#124; Akkam's Razor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Digital Signatures: Good Enough For Business? &#8211; A digitally signed contract is just as legitimate as one signed by hand in most countries. There is plenty of precedent dating from the time when people were first signing and returning contracts by fax. If you ever need to, you can take someone to court to enforce a contract signed electronically. However, policies on accepting digital signatures can vary from company to company. Where one company will be perfectly comfortable accepting all your paperwork by email, another may want you to fax or mail in signed documents. We&#8217;re moving towards being able to do business without hard copies of our documents, but we&#8217;re not quite there.  AKPC_IDS += &quot;7888,&quot;;SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;Daily Links for October 23rd through October 27th&quot;, url: &quot;http://www.akkamsrazor.com/2009/10/27/daily-links-for-october-23rd-through-october-27th/&quot; }); [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Digital Signatures: Good Enough For Business? &#8211; A digitally signed contract is just as legitimate as one signed by hand in most countries. There is plenty of precedent dating from the time when people were first signing and returning contracts by fax. If you ever need to, you can take someone to court to enforce a contract signed electronically. However, policies on accepting digital signatures can vary from company to company. Where one company will be perfectly comfortable accepting all your paperwork by email, another may want you to fax or mail in signed documents. We&rsquo;re moving towards being able to do business without hard copies of our documents, but we&rsquo;re not quite there.  AKPC_IDS += &quot;7888,&quot;;SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;Daily Links for October 23rd through October 27th&quot;, url: &quot;<a href="http://www.akkamsrazor.com/2009/10/27/daily-links-for-october-23rd-through-october-27th/&#038;quot" rel="nofollow">http://www.akkamsrazor.com/2009/10/27/daily-links-for-october-23rd-through-october-27th/&#038;quot</a>; }); [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Carnahan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis Carnahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No mention that you can combine a physical signature with a digital one by signing documents on a tablet pc using pdf annotator or bluebeam. Something to consider for an alternate way to sign.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention that you can combine a physical signature with a digital one by signing documents on a tablet pc using pdf annotator or bluebeam. Something to consider for an alternate way to sign.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting blog post, thanks!

It seems to provide a high level outline, but does not describe many of the capabilities of a solution like DocuSign such as workflow or the ability to authenticate signers on the fly.  DocuSign&#039;s service provides several authentication methods, which arguably create a stronger authentication than a &#039;self signed&#039; PKI certificate.

In many transactions, email authentication is just not good enough.

As the author points out, the biggest issue is that digital signature technology does not provide support for the &#039;rest of the process&#039;.  Key elements of a full &#039;Smart&#039; ESIGN solution mange the whole workflow securely.
* signer authentication
* document preparation/conversion
* ESIGN required consumer consent management (for consumer transactions)
* secure document delivery/workflow/routing
* eForms capability to collect data AND deliver it to downstream systems
* transaction controls and audit trails
* secure document storage
* integration into key business applications like Salesforce, Ariba, Outlook, SharePoint, etc.

Finally, the solution needs to be able to present documents for signature in a familiar way, allow the signer to sign with ONLY a browser, or even mobile device.  Requiring software or certs is a show stopper.

If you compare most digital signature solutions like Acrobat&#039;s PDF Digital Signature tool, you&#039;d find because it lacks most of the things on this list, which is why it really has never taken off.  On the other hand, solutions like DocuSign are seeing dramatic growth in all market segments.

-TG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting blog post, thanks!</p>
<p>It seems to provide a high level outline, but does not describe many of the capabilities of a solution like DocuSign such as workflow or the ability to authenticate signers on the fly.  DocuSign&#8217;s service provides several authentication methods, which arguably create a stronger authentication than a &#8216;self signed&#8217; PKI certificate.</p>
<p>In many transactions, email authentication is just not good enough.</p>
<p>As the author points out, the biggest issue is that digital signature technology does not provide support for the &#8216;rest of the process&#8217;.  Key elements of a full &#8216;Smart&#8217; ESIGN solution mange the whole workflow securely.<br />
* signer authentication<br />
* document preparation/conversion<br />
* ESIGN required consumer consent management (for consumer transactions)<br />
* secure document delivery/workflow/routing<br />
* eForms capability to collect data AND deliver it to downstream systems<br />
* transaction controls and audit trails<br />
* secure document storage<br />
* integration into key business applications like Salesforce, Ariba, Outlook, SharePoint, etc.</p>
<p>Finally, the solution needs to be able to present documents for signature in a familiar way, allow the signer to sign with ONLY a browser, or even mobile device.  Requiring software or certs is a show stopper.</p>
<p>If you compare most digital signature solutions like Acrobat&#8217;s PDF Digital Signature tool, you&#8217;d find because it lacks most of the things on this list, which is why it really has never taken off.  On the other hand, solutions like DocuSign are seeing dramatic growth in all market segments.</p>
<p>-TG</p>
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		<title>By: SmartBlog on Workforce &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s bonus tracks: Don&#8217;t get spooked by Halloween</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SmartBlog on Workforce &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s bonus tracks: Don&#8217;t get spooked by Halloween]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Deciding when a digital signature is enough [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: An Bui, DocuSign Social Media</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An Bui, DocuSign Social Media]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the strength of the signature, DocuSign provides 100% audit log for its electronic signature as well as certificates of completion. Various levels of authentication are available, so you and your clients can decide which method best fits your needs.

DocuSign also provides workflow capabilities and can be integrated with CRM systems via the DocuSign API.

Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any further questions or comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the strength of the signature, DocuSign provides 100% audit log for its electronic signature as well as certificates of completion. Various levels of authentication are available, so you and your clients can decide which method best fits your needs.</p>
<p>DocuSign also provides workflow capabilities and can be integrated with CRM systems via the DocuSign API.</p>
<p>Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any further questions or comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ava Edin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ava Edin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is great. Thank you. Always looking for all options.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great. Thank you. Always looking for all options.</p>
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		<title>By: Imran Ali</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/collaboration/digital-signatures-good-enough-for-business/#comment-88609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Imran Ali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I signed my GigaOm contract using EchoSign - just a simple verified email address was neccessary :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed my GigaOm contract using EchoSign &#8211; just a simple verified email address was neccessary :)</p>
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