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		<title>By: Bala Nataraj</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-time-soon/#comment-23577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bala Nataraj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Excellent article Katie - very relevant to what Im seeing daily in my involvement with Smart initiatives in 2010.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article Katie &#8211; very relevant to what Im seeing daily in my involvement with Smart initiatives in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: James Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have proof that more information actually saves energy in residential applications? I understand the theoretical benefit, but in practice I have seen very little real result on how meter data in residential leads to persistent reduction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am not ignorant on how to save energy. Last year my company reduced energy use in more than 28K small businesses and 6,800 homes. In a previous business my team reduced energy usage 20% in 1,000 large buildings using real time data.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The people who are pushing more real time data, are in the business of data not efficiency.  If you want the data go buy TED.  It&#039;s cheap.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I sell solutions that reduce energy usage. If I thought more real time data or an edict from the President would drive me more business, wouldn&#039;t I be for it? But proposals like the  Markey bill will cause a lot of people to spend a lot of money on real time data access with limited results. It disintermediates what the thoughtful utilities are trying to do, which may cause them to revert to doing nothing in energy efficiency, is that good?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Things like 15min interval data (in residential) does not solve the problem. If you want to analyze a building to get to the real issues you need to sample down at 15khz (yes that is 15,000 times a second). Practically, we do not know the right and best way to gather data that effects change at scale in residential, so we should not set a national policy until innovators deliver.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;TOU is just another game for high cost energy in markets with low reserve margin. The bulk of CO2 comes from base load. I don&#039;t need a meter to tell me to install a 19seer air conditioner, CFLs, etc. And once these systems are in, I don&#039;t need to stare at Google Power meter to learn more. Normal people want to live their life, not stare at goats.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Before we go spend several billions more, maybe we should actually do some real scientific study on what drives people to adopt persistent energy efficiency measures. For example, pre-pay meters provide a simple status signal (Yellow/Red light) and drive 15% reduction in energy usage - no interval data required.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have proof that more information actually saves energy in residential applications? I understand the theoretical benefit, but in practice I have seen very little real result on how meter data in residential leads to persistent reduction.</p>
<p>I am not ignorant on how to save energy. Last year my company reduced energy use in more than 28K small businesses and 6,800 homes. In a previous business my team reduced energy usage 20% in 1,000 large buildings using real time data.</p>
<p>The people who are pushing more real time data, are in the business of data not efficiency.  If you want the data go buy TED.  It&#8217;s cheap.</p>
<p>I sell solutions that reduce energy usage. If I thought more real time data or an edict from the President would drive me more business, wouldn&#8217;t I be for it? But proposals like the  Markey bill will cause a lot of people to spend a lot of money on real time data access with limited results. It disintermediates what the thoughtful utilities are trying to do, which may cause them to revert to doing nothing in energy efficiency, is that good?</p>
<p>Things like 15min interval data (in residential) does not solve the problem. If you want to analyze a building to get to the real issues you need to sample down at 15khz (yes that is 15,000 times a second). Practically, we do not know the right and best way to gather data that effects change at scale in residential, so we should not set a national policy until innovators deliver.</p>
<p>TOU is just another game for high cost energy in markets with low reserve margin. The bulk of CO2 comes from base load. I don&#8217;t need a meter to tell me to install a 19seer air conditioner, CFLs, etc. And once these systems are in, I don&#8217;t need to stare at Google Power meter to learn more. Normal people want to live their life, not stare at goats.</p>
<p>Before we go spend several billions more, maybe we should actually do some real scientific study on what drives people to adopt persistent energy efficiency measures. For example, pre-pay meters provide a simple status signal (Yellow/Red light) and drive 15% reduction in energy usage &#8211; no interval data required.</p>
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		<title>By: Google: People need info to save energy &#124; iPhone News</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google: People need info to save energy &#124; iPhone News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...]   Some say smart grid technology is too expensive, as the Wall Street Journal reports. The blog earth2tech says some electricity companies may not make energy data available fast enough to really be that useful [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Some say smart grid technology is too expensive, as the Wall Street Journal reports. The blog earth2tech says some electricity companies may not make energy data available fast enough to really be that useful [...]</p>
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		<title>By: California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] those being deployed by California’s big utilities, are lower-bandwidth and designed to be read every 15 minutes or hourly, not in real time. While there are ways to get faster or more current price information to [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those being deployed by California’s big utilities, are lower-bandwidth and designed to be read every 15 minutes or hourly, not in real time. While there are ways to get faster or more current price information to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GreenRoad&#8217;s Latest Investor: Al Gore&#8217;s Fund</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GreenRoad&#8217;s Latest Investor: Al Gore&#8217;s Fund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] customers and approved third parties with “near real time” data from smart meters. Check out this piece I wrote last year about how important real-time data is for changing home energy consumption and also for delivering [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] customers and approved third parties with “near real time” data from smart meters. Check out this piece I wrote last year about how important real-time data is for changing home energy consumption and also for delivering [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How the FCC Will Promote Open Smart Grid Networks &#38; Real Time Energy Data</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-time-soon/#comment-23572</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How the FCC Will Promote Open Smart Grid Networks &#38; Real Time Energy Data]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] to help promote innovation and also change consumer behavior. As I wrote in an article last year (Why The Smart Grid Won&#8217;t Have the Innovations of the Internet Any Time Soon) most utility networks are not currently being built to provide consumers real-time access to [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to help promote innovation and also change consumer behavior. As I wrote in an article last year (Why The Smart Grid Won&#8217;t Have the Innovations of the Internet Any Time Soon) most utility networks are not currently being built to provide consumers real-time access to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Top 15 Stories from 2009 &#124; Earth2Tech &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top 15 Stories from 2009 &#124; Earth2Tech &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...]  Why the Smart Grid Won’t Have the Innovations of the Internet Any Time Soon: I wrote this in June after I realized how controlled and closed the networks that the utilities would be building would be compared to the build out of the Internet. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Why the Smart Grid Won’t Have the Innovations of the Internet Any Time Soon: I wrote this in June after I realized how controlled and closed the networks that the utilities would be building would be compared to the build out of the Internet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silverio, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-time-soon/#comment-23570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[José Antonio Vanderhorst-Silverio, Ph.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Please check my quote of (as well as my response to) your suggestion in the link http://earth2tech.com/2010/01/01/our-favorites-top-15-earth2tech-stories-from-2009/&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please check my quote of (as well as my response to) your suggestion in the link <a href="http://earth2tech.com/2010/01/01/our-favorites-top-15-earth2tech-stories-from-2009/" rel="nofollow">http://earth2tech.com/2010/01/01/our-favorites-top-15-earth2tech-stories-from-2009/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Smart Grid &#124; Smart Grids Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-time-soon/#comment-23569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart Grid &#124; Smart Grids Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] ^ http://earth2tech.com/2009/06/05/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-ti... [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ^ <a href="http://earth2tech.com/2009/06/05/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-ti" rel="nofollow">http://earth2tech.com/2009/06/05/why-the-smart-grid-wont-have-the-innovations-of-the-internet-any-ti</a>&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Our Favorites: Top 15 Earth2Tech Stories from 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Our Favorites: Top 15 Earth2Tech Stories from 2009]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...]  Why the Smart Grid Won’t Have the Innovations of the Internet Any Time Soon: I wrote this in June after I realized how controlled and closed the networks that the utilities would be building would be compared to the build out of the Internet. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Why the Smart Grid Won’t Have the Innovations of the Internet Any Time Soon: I wrote this in June after I realized how controlled and closed the networks that the utilities would be building would be compared to the build out of the Internet. [...]</p>
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