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	<title>Comments on: Obama Doomed to Repeat Bush&#039;s Ethanol Mistakes?</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/obama-doomed-to-repeat-bushs-ethanol-mistakes/#comment-17198</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree with Vitamos 100%! He is RIGHT. Oh, and one more thing: Is this still a democratic America or doesn&#039;t he have the rigth to say whatever he feels like anymore?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Vitamos 100%! He is RIGHT. Oh, and one more thing: Is this still a democratic America or doesn&#8217;t he have the rigth to say whatever he feels like anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: D Sakarya</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/obama-doomed-to-repeat-bushs-ethanol-mistakes/#comment-17197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D Sakarya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The notion that electric cars will negate the need for alternatives to liquid transportation fuel, is  blisteringly naive.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The notion that electric cars will negate the need for alternatives to liquid transportation fuel, is  blisteringly naive.</p>
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		<title>By: 42Cliff</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/obama-doomed-to-repeat-bushs-ethanol-mistakes/#comment-17196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[42Cliff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;just grow elephant grass or something similar on the medians of all highways in the us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;bonus: before harvest it will reduce fatalities and noise pollution.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just grow elephant grass or something similar on the medians of all highways in the us.</p>
<p>bonus: before harvest it will reduce fatalities and noise pollution.</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/obama-doomed-to-repeat-bushs-ethanol-mistakes/#comment-17195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eideard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Joe - don&#039;t waste electrons on neocon trolls.  It only helps their limp, shrinking appendages.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, I stopped in to say exactly what Pete already said - more eloquently than I might attempt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As many years as I have spent in environmental activism, I&#039;m still embarrassed by the dillweeds who still feel they need no facts, evidence, proof or peer-review to propound useless morality.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll stick with science.  Even the corporations I so often have to battle end up wandering back to reality every few quarters/years/decades or so.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; don&#8217;t waste electrons on neocon trolls.  It only helps their limp, shrinking appendages.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I stopped in to say exactly what Pete already said &#8211; more eloquently than I might attempt.</p>
<p>As many years as I have spent in environmental activism, I&#8217;m still embarrassed by the dillweeds who still feel they need no facts, evidence, proof or peer-review to propound useless morality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick with science.  Even the corporations I so often have to battle end up wandering back to reality every few quarters/years/decades or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe B.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Vitamos, why don&#039;t you leave the country if you don&#039;t like it.  We don&#039;t need your pessimism.  Move to Europe, Asia, Latin America, South America, Africa, Australia, or any other place on earth.  Wear your &#039;I love George Bush&#039; tee shirt while your at it.  Let&#039;s see how popular you become where ever you land.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The American people have voted for change.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vitamos, why don&#8217;t you leave the country if you don&#8217;t like it.  We don&#8217;t need your pessimism.  Move to Europe, Asia, Latin America, South America, Africa, Australia, or any other place on earth.  Wear your &#8216;I love George Bush&#8217; tee shirt while your at it.  Let&#8217;s see how popular you become where ever you land.</p>
<p>The American people have voted for change.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Sandfort</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Sandfort]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;History eventually tells us the unbiased truth. Those against ethanol production still equate ethanol production in the USA with high corn and food prices. History already has kicked the prop out from under this argument. Corn prices are half of their peak just months ago - have your food prices dropped? Is it just possible that you were wrong? Subsidies that go to oil blenders (not ethanol plants) are much more than offset by the reduction in farm subsidies and increased tax revenue from the plants and jobs created, not to mention the effect ethanol has had on lowering oil imports and gas prices. The hysteria about chopping down the forests is also false conjecture as the lack of increased acres planted proves. No ethanol proponent believes or claims that ethanol is the majority of the answer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The answer to our energy addiction is a plethora of solutions, the most important of which is better efficiency / lowering consumption. As with the 70&#039;s oil crisis, high prices have reduced demand/consumption - 8% so far this year. Is there something to learn from high prices? Europe taxed fuel so highly for the past four decades that consumption is much lower than ours and engine efficiency is rediculousley higher than our gas hogs. When will we learn that we must increase fuel taxes to allow the market to automatically sustain a downward consumption slide, reduce pollution, reduce imports, and become less dependent on terrorist regimes?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Obama will continue ethanol support because it is the only short term option. History will eventually favor the decision to promote ethanol. Obama will also be favored if he proceeds to aggressively pursue all of the other domestic energy alternatives. That includes nuclear, wind, tidal, geothermal, clean coal, drilling, ethanol (starch, cellulosic and algal), higher efficiency standards and especially higher energy taxes. This is the way out of our predicament.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History eventually tells us the unbiased truth. Those against ethanol production still equate ethanol production in the USA with high corn and food prices. History already has kicked the prop out from under this argument. Corn prices are half of their peak just months ago &#8211; have your food prices dropped? Is it just possible that you were wrong? Subsidies that go to oil blenders (not ethanol plants) are much more than offset by the reduction in farm subsidies and increased tax revenue from the plants and jobs created, not to mention the effect ethanol has had on lowering oil imports and gas prices. The hysteria about chopping down the forests is also false conjecture as the lack of increased acres planted proves. No ethanol proponent believes or claims that ethanol is the majority of the answer.</p>
<p>The answer to our energy addiction is a plethora of solutions, the most important of which is better efficiency / lowering consumption. As with the 70&#8242;s oil crisis, high prices have reduced demand/consumption &#8211; 8% so far this year. Is there something to learn from high prices? Europe taxed fuel so highly for the past four decades that consumption is much lower than ours and engine efficiency is rediculousley higher than our gas hogs. When will we learn that we must increase fuel taxes to allow the market to automatically sustain a downward consumption slide, reduce pollution, reduce imports, and become less dependent on terrorist regimes?</p>
<p>Obama will continue ethanol support because it is the only short term option. History will eventually favor the decision to promote ethanol. Obama will also be favored if he proceeds to aggressively pursue all of the other domestic energy alternatives. That includes nuclear, wind, tidal, geothermal, clean coal, drilling, ethanol (starch, cellulosic and algal), higher efficiency standards and especially higher energy taxes. This is the way out of our predicament.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitamos</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/obama-doomed-to-repeat-bushs-ethanol-mistakes/#comment-17192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vitamos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ah, Obama. The embarrassing, fraudulently elected president of america who hates the country who fell for his corrupt election scam. And why should we all care as america dies before our eyes under this gruesome abomination and disgusting animal you&#039;ve given your lives to. You could have had a real war veteran as a leader, and a woman governor as his partner, but you let yourself get crooked and lied to and swindled and threatened and cheated by a shadow of pure crooked evil. You want us to take you seriously again, but you corruptly allowed to get elected the most evil clown on earth. Bush was an american god compared to this, and now your future is dead with pure and unarguable certainty and absolution. Goodbye forever, america. You&#039;re done with now.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Obama. The embarrassing, fraudulently elected president of america who hates the country who fell for his corrupt election scam. And why should we all care as america dies before our eyes under this gruesome abomination and disgusting animal you&#8217;ve given your lives to. You could have had a real war veteran as a leader, and a woman governor as his partner, but you let yourself get crooked and lied to and swindled and threatened and cheated by a shadow of pure crooked evil. You want us to take you seriously again, but you corruptly allowed to get elected the most evil clown on earth. Bush was an american god compared to this, and now your future is dead with pure and unarguable certainty and absolution. Goodbye forever, america. You&#8217;re done with now.</p>
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