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		<title>By: Control4 Raises $17M to Connect With Smart Meters</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/next-step-for-the-smart-grid-winning-over-consumers/#comment-22135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Control4 Raises $17M to Connect With Smart Meters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] consumer electronics retailer Best Buy, is notable, given energy management tools have not become popular yet with consumers. Control4 hasn&#8217;t been selling directly to consumers, but if it has those ambitions, working [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] consumer electronics retailer Best Buy, is notable, given energy management tools have not become popular yet with consumers. Control4 hasn&#8217;t been selling directly to consumers, but if it has those ambitions, working [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jobo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Xcel is spending $100 million on smart grid in Boulder
CO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;$100 million would buy a lot of new windows, high efficiency furnaces, insulate walls and seal leaks in housing stock that is
a) largely built before 1970 and leaks like a sieve
b) a big chunk of city real estate is rental properties
and
c) people may highly leveraged to afford a house in Boulder, currently struggling financially  with the recession, or retired and on a fixed income.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Landlords will not upgrade the 1000&#039;s of crappy  houses in town since renters pay utilities and there is no financial incentive for them to spend the money, these would all be considered improvements not repairs and would not be fully deductible. Rent could not increase enough to cover the upgrades.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Renters will do what they can to reduce their phantom load and turn the thermostat down, but as I can personally attest, unplugging everything in my house made depressingly little dent in my daytime phantom load. When the ClimateSmart guy came to the house he could offer no quick easy wins, (I&#039;d already done all the ones on his list) just the more expensive improvements to a 60 year old house that are out of reach at the moment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lots of homeowners aren&#039;t in a financial position to afford new appliances, new windows, etc. and&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If usage drops a lot Xcel will apply for a rate increase. The wealthy have gone solar or can pay it regardless. The middle class and poor will be squeezed even more and have little ability to affect it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m all for reducing energy usage - I just think SmartGrid will end up costing those that can afford it it least the most money and they will never be able to catch up (utilities get more expensive, takes a greater % of pay, less pay for improvements, rates go up .... continue vicious cycle).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since I&#039;m self employed and work from home - it&#039;s a cold day in hell they get control to turn off my appliances. I&#039;ve unplugged everything I can, the programmable thermostat to 63 in winter, 80 in summer,  hang out the laundry and don&#039;t turn on lights during the day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I still think SmartGrid is putting the cart before the horse.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xcel is spending $100 million on smart grid in Boulder<br />
CO.</p>
<p>$100 million would buy a lot of new windows, high efficiency furnaces, insulate walls and seal leaks in housing stock that is<br />
a) largely built before 1970 and leaks like a sieve<br />
b) a big chunk of city real estate is rental properties<br />
and<br />
c) people may highly leveraged to afford a house in Boulder, currently struggling financially  with the recession, or retired and on a fixed income.</p>
<p>Landlords will not upgrade the 1000&#8242;s of crappy  houses in town since renters pay utilities and there is no financial incentive for them to spend the money, these would all be considered improvements not repairs and would not be fully deductible. Rent could not increase enough to cover the upgrades.</p>
<p>Renters will do what they can to reduce their phantom load and turn the thermostat down, but as I can personally attest, unplugging everything in my house made depressingly little dent in my daytime phantom load. When the ClimateSmart guy came to the house he could offer no quick easy wins, (I&#8217;d already done all the ones on his list) just the more expensive improvements to a 60 year old house that are out of reach at the moment.</p>
<p>Lots of homeowners aren&#8217;t in a financial position to afford new appliances, new windows, etc. and</p>
<p>If usage drops a lot Xcel will apply for a rate increase. The wealthy have gone solar or can pay it regardless. The middle class and poor will be squeezed even more and have little ability to affect it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for reducing energy usage &#8211; I just think SmartGrid will end up costing those that can afford it it least the most money and they will never be able to catch up (utilities get more expensive, takes a greater % of pay, less pay for improvements, rates go up &#8230;. continue vicious cycle).</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m self employed and work from home &#8211; it&#8217;s a cold day in hell they get control to turn off my appliances. I&#8217;ve unplugged everything I can, the programmable thermostat to 63 in winter, 80 in summer,  hang out the laundry and don&#8217;t turn on lights during the day.</p>
<p>I still think SmartGrid is putting the cart before the horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Rise &#38; Shine: April 20, 2009 &#124; Sweet Solar Home</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rise &#38; Shine: April 20, 2009 &#124; Sweet Solar Home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...]  Next Step for the Smart Grid: Winning Over Consumers Making the smart grid’s most basic elements — two-way communication between utilities and energy users, advanced control systems and smart devices — appealing to consumers could be key to its success. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Next Step for the Smart Grid: Winning Over Consumers Making the smart grid’s most basic elements — two-way communication between utilities and energy users, advanced control systems and smart devices — appealing to consumers could be key to its success. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Selling the smart grid - Our Latest Discovery</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/next-step-for-the-smart-grid-winning-over-consumers/#comment-22132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Selling the smart grid - Our Latest Discovery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] there&#8217;s a shock. In her post on Earth2Tech.com, Josie Garthwaite writes about the challenge of convincing consumers that smart grid technologies [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there&#8217;s a shock. In her post on Earth2Tech.com, Josie Garthwaite writes about the challenge of convincing consumers that smart grid technologies [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Next Step for the Smart Grid: Winning Over Consumers &#171; SmartGrid Current</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Next Step for the Smart Grid: Winning Over Consumers &#171; SmartGrid Current]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Next Step for the Smart Grid: Winning Over&#160;Consumers    Posted April 20, 2009 Filed under: Uncategorized &#124;   http://earth2tech.com/2009/04/19/next-step-for-the-smart-grid-winning-over-consumers/ [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Next Step for the Smart Grid: Winning Over&nbsp;Consumers    Posted April 20, 2009 Filed under: Uncategorized |   <a href="http://earth2tech.com/2009/04/19/next-step-for-the-smart-grid-winning-over-consumers/" rel="nofollow">http://earth2tech.com/2009/04/19/next-step-for-the-smart-grid-winning-over-consumers/</a> [...]</p>
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