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	<title>Comments on: New Name, Same Ambition: Abound Solar Hot on First Solar&#039;s Heels</title>
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		<title>By: Early Stage Solar Startups Skyline &#38; Abound Slog Forward</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Early Stage Solar Startups Skyline &#38; Abound Slog Forward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] solar panel maker Abound Solar (formerly AVA Solar) is further along than Skyline, having fired up its first full-scale factory in April after more than a decade of development at Colorado State University. But while Abound [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] solar panel maker Abound Solar (formerly AVA Solar) is further along than Skyline, having fired up its first full-scale factory in April after more than a decade of development at Colorado State University. But while Abound [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deeya Nabs Another $30M for Energy Storage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeya Nabs Another $30M for Energy Storage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] investor Technology Partners &#8212; which has also backed Abound Solar and Tesla Motors &#8212; led the round, and existing investors BlueRun Ventures, Draper Fisher [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] investor Technology Partners &#8212; which has also backed Abound Solar and Tesla Motors &#8212; led the round, and existing investors BlueRun Ventures, Draper Fisher [...]</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t understand why so much fuss has been made about the PV manufacturers.  Solar thermal kicks PV&#039;s butt, especially the solar stirling setups.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;$1/ watt is the manufacturing cost.  Its not what the cells sell for.  In order to pay for the expensive plants and give the investors a return, they need to sell for $2 or $3/watt.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another thing that nobody seems to talk about is that PV needs to track the sun, just like any other cost effective solar power system.  So the cells are only half the total cost.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The kicker on the tracking issue is that if the cells are only 10% efficient, it takes HUGE areas to make a decent amount of power.  The solar stirling systems are 25% efficient, so they only need 40% of the area that the PV systems need.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then there is the issue of the inverter.  PV cells put out variable voltage DC power, not AC.  Inverters add a lot of cost and decrease the system efficiency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think solar stirling makes a lot more sense than PV, but yet it doesn&#039;t seem to attract nearly the investment dollars.  Maybe that is because solar stirling is cheap enough that it pays to implement it and sell power rather than a product and thus big power companies are investing in the companies directly ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:scratches head:&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why so much fuss has been made about the PV manufacturers.  Solar thermal kicks PV&#8217;s butt, especially the solar stirling setups.</p>
<p>$1/ watt is the manufacturing cost.  Its not what the cells sell for.  In order to pay for the expensive plants and give the investors a return, they need to sell for $2 or $3/watt.</p>
<p>Another thing that nobody seems to talk about is that PV needs to track the sun, just like any other cost effective solar power system.  So the cells are only half the total cost.</p>
<p>The kicker on the tracking issue is that if the cells are only 10% efficient, it takes HUGE areas to make a decent amount of power.  The solar stirling systems are 25% efficient, so they only need 40% of the area that the PV systems need.</p>
<p>Then there is the issue of the inverter.  PV cells put out variable voltage DC power, not AC.  Inverters add a lot of cost and decrease the system efficiency.</p>
<p>I think solar stirling makes a lot more sense than PV, but yet it doesn&#8217;t seem to attract nearly the investment dollars.  Maybe that is because solar stirling is cheap enough that it pays to implement it and sell power rather than a product and thus big power companies are investing in the companies directly ?</p>
<p>:scratches head:</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the article, Josie. Interesting stuff!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Laurie
ecoki.com&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article, Josie. Interesting stuff!</p>
<p>Laurie<br />
ecoki.com</p>
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