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	<title>Comments on: Why Meter Giants Cried Foul at the Stimulus Bill&#039;s Smart Grid Standards</title>
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		<title>By: SiliconANGLE &#8212; Blog &#8212; CleanTech Blunders: PG&#38;E’s Smart Meters</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SiliconANGLE &#8212; Blog &#8212; CleanTech Blunders: PG&#38;E’s Smart Meters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] has been a controversial provision in the Stimulus bill passed this year that requires utility companies using stimulus dollars – taxpayer money – to [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Can Smart Meters Succeed on Closed Standards?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can Smart Meters Succeed on Closed Standards?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] has been a controversial provision in the Stimulus bill passed this year that requires utility companies using stimulus dollars – taxpayer money – to [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Can Smart Meters Succeed on Closed Standards? &#124; Venture Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can Smart Meters Succeed on Closed Standards? &#124; Venture Chronicles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] has been a controversial provision in the Stimulus bill passed this year that requires utility companies using stimulus dollars &#8211; taxpayer money [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Itron: Utilities Aren&#8217;t Spending on Smart Meters</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Itron: Utilities Aren&#8217;t Spending on Smart Meters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] said utilities are also balking at smart-grid spending as they work out questions such as open standards and security issues. And the criteria for stimulus spending still hasn’t been finalized. It all [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] said utilities are also balking at smart-grid spending as they work out questions such as open standards and security issues. And the criteria for stimulus spending still hasn’t been finalized. It all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;See http://www.cringely.com/2009/02/power-to-the-people/
Google wants power companies to put in fiber for meter reading and sell the excess bandwidth to the homeowner and/or ISP. Since many people are abandoning landlines and yes, even traditional TV, this seems the smart way to go.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://www.cringely.com/2009/02/power-to-the-people/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cringely.com/2009/02/power-to-the-people/</a><br />
Google wants power companies to put in fiber for meter reading and sell the excess bandwidth to the homeowner and/or ISP. Since many people are abandoning landlines and yes, even traditional TV, this seems the smart way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Taco de Vries</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taco de Vries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Who says you need any kind of network SPN wants you to buy, there is plenty of comm network already out there... I fail to see the business case to buy their comm network. I would rather use what is already out there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Plus it seems to me the business case for AMI remains rather weak, see here http://www.sce.com/NR/rdonlyres/6DC13EB1-0AFA-40A8-B9E3-93546F24015C/0/081114_A0707026Final_Decision.pdf
on a 2Bn investment the return in 20 years is a meager 9MM&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do agree with one thing, IP is the way to go, and Chu knows it it will happen&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says you need any kind of network SPN wants you to buy, there is plenty of comm network already out there&#8230; I fail to see the business case to buy their comm network. I would rather use what is already out there.</p>
<p>Plus it seems to me the business case for AMI remains rather weak, see here <a href="http://www.sce.com/NR/rdonlyres/6DC13EB1-0AFA-40A8-B9E3-93546F24015C/0/081114_A0707026Final_Decision.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sce.com/NR/rdonlyres/6DC13EB1-0AFA-40A8-B9E3-93546F24015C/0/081114_A0707026Final_Decision.pdf</a><br />
on a 2Bn investment the return in 20 years is a meager 9MM</p>
<p>I do agree with one thing, IP is the way to go, and Chu knows it it will happen</p>
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		<title>By: How Google&#8217;s PowerMeter Will Affect the Smart Meter Industry &#171; Earth2Tech</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How Google&#8217;s PowerMeter Will Affect the Smart Meter Industry &#171; Earth2Tech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] meter companies like Itron, Landis+Gyr, Elster and Aclara (part of ESCO Technologies) have already expressed concern over language in the stimulus bill that emphasizes Internet protocol for the smart [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] meter companies like Itron, Landis+Gyr, Elster and Aclara (part of ESCO Technologies) have already expressed concern over language in the stimulus bill that emphasizes Internet protocol for the smart [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The utility meters do not need to be IP enabled to make the grid smart.  It drives up cost and adds minor value.  The issue of interoperability has less to do with IP and more to do with stadards over what is communicated (15 min interval data, power factor, etc).  This is the big issue being worked with HAN.  It is worriesome that the bill includes the requirement and suspect that Gore&#039;s fingers are all over this - effecting the legislation and beneifiting thorugh his stock in Silversprings via Kleiner.  The Green equivelant of Cheney and KBR.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The utility meters do not need to be IP enabled to make the grid smart.  It drives up cost and adds minor value.  The issue of interoperability has less to do with IP and more to do with stadards over what is communicated (15 min interval data, power factor, etc).  This is the big issue being worked with HAN.  It is worriesome that the bill includes the requirement and suspect that Gore&#8217;s fingers are all over this &#8211; effecting the legislation and beneifiting thorugh his stock in Silversprings via Kleiner.  The Green equivelant of Cheney and KBR.</p>
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		<title>By: WSN Buzz &#187; Why Meter Giants Cried Foul at the Stimulus Bill’s Smart Grid Standards</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WSN Buzz &#187; Why Meter Giants Cried Foul at the Stimulus Bill’s Smart Grid Standards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] More here. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Troy Benjegerdes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/metering-giants-swipe-at-stimulus-bills-smart-grid-standards/#comment-19759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troy Benjegerdes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Stephen Paul.. Please point me to the download site for the Advanced Metering Infrastructure open source reference implementation. Oh wait, there isn&#039;t one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can you at least point me to documentation so I could at least have the computer I&#039;m writing this on talk to my smart meter?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It took me less than a week to set up http://grid.coop/lmp.html and write the code for it, and now my server responds to 5-minute LMP pricing.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Paul.. Please point me to the download site for the Advanced Metering Infrastructure open source reference implementation. Oh wait, there isn&#8217;t one.</p>
<p>Can you at least point me to documentation so I could at least have the computer I&#8217;m writing this on talk to my smart meter?</p>
<p>It took me less than a week to set up <a href="http://grid.coop/lmp.html" rel="nofollow">http://grid.coop/lmp.html</a> and write the code for it, and now my server responds to 5-minute LMP pricing.</p>
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