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	<title>Comments on: How the Economics of Natural Gas Vehicles Works</title>
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		<title>By: The Reality of Cutting U.S. Carbon Emissions: Natural Gas &#124; iPhone, iPad Weblog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/how-the-economics-of-natural-gas-vehicles-works/#comment-29278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Reality of Cutting U.S. Carbon Emissions: Natural Gas &#124; iPhone, iPad Weblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] The abundant natural gas reserves could also be used for vehicles — something T. Boone Pickens has been advocating for months. While I&#8217;m not convinced the natural gas vehicle market will ever take off outside of enterprise fleets, trucks and buses, natural gas vehicles could play a significant role in cutting carbon emissions. Here&#8217;s how the economics of natural gas vehicles works. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The abundant natural gas reserves could also be used for vehicles — something T. Boone Pickens has been advocating for months. While I&#8217;m not convinced the natural gas vehicle market will ever take off outside of enterprise fleets, trucks and buses, natural gas vehicles could play a significant role in cutting carbon emissions. Here&#8217;s how the economics of natural gas vehicles works. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leo888</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/how-the-economics-of-natural-gas-vehicles-works/#comment-29277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo888]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know what kind of components are used in the USA (maybe made of gold) but the most expensive conversion to natural gas in Perú costs no more than $2,000.00 including everything and it&#039;s the same price for carburated or injection. In my country in the past 10 years THOUSANDS of cars have been successfully converted to Natural gas and LPG. It&#039;s not difficult at all. The only problem is with older engines: natural gas it&#039;s too cold (colder than LPG) and can break plastic or rubber parts, including pipes. In fact, it&#039;s almost impossible to find a taxi or fleet vans working on gasoline! Even 4x4s. In march 2010 there will be a new public bus system for Lima and all the buses have been specially made to operate on natural gas. At first, this was problematic for the lack of suppliers, but now it&#039;s OK. The design was made here and the manufacturing in China...(it was the only cheap alternative). Let&#039;s see the outcome.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what kind of components are used in the USA (maybe made of gold) but the most expensive conversion to natural gas in Perú costs no more than $2,000.00 including everything and it&#8217;s the same price for carburated or injection. In my country in the past 10 years THOUSANDS of cars have been successfully converted to Natural gas and LPG. It&#8217;s not difficult at all. The only problem is with older engines: natural gas it&#8217;s too cold (colder than LPG) and can break plastic or rubber parts, including pipes. In fact, it&#8217;s almost impossible to find a taxi or fleet vans working on gasoline! Even 4x4s. In march 2010 there will be a new public bus system for Lima and all the buses have been specially made to operate on natural gas. At first, this was problematic for the lack of suppliers, but now it&#8217;s OK. The design was made here and the manufacturing in China&#8230;(it was the only cheap alternative). Let&#8217;s see the outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;A $10,000 conversion sounds pretty high.  The extra cost would be much less if they just built them in the first place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vinod Khosla is wrong about most energy issues.  India is a huge user of NGVs!  What DOES he believe in?  Cellulosic ethanol?  Good luck hauling all that bulky feedstock to the multiple, expensive refineries needed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;New storage technologies for NG include charcoal briquette-like substrates that allow for good storage volumes at a few hundred psi.  That&#039;s a low enough pressure to allow for conformal tanks, which improves storage efficiency.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A $10,000 conversion sounds pretty high.  The extra cost would be much less if they just built them in the first place.</p>
<p>Vinod Khosla is wrong about most energy issues.  India is a huge user of NGVs!  What DOES he believe in?  Cellulosic ethanol?  Good luck hauling all that bulky feedstock to the multiple, expensive refineries needed.</p>
<p>New storage technologies for NG include charcoal briquette-like substrates that allow for good storage volumes at a few hundred psi.  That&#8217;s a low enough pressure to allow for conformal tanks, which improves storage efficiency.</p>
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