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	<title>Comments on: Google Blows $5M More Into Makani&#039;s High Altitude Wind</title>
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		<title>By: George Meredith MD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Meredith MD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google is About to Blow Five Billion on Offshore Wind Farm Transmission Lines


When will this Wind Turbine madness stop? Listen! Each wind turbine must be subsidized $245,000 each year, every year, by some poorly informed government. England, Denmark, the Netherlands or in this case, it’s our own tax and spend government.   


Wind turbines don’t work when there is too little wind. Or too much wind. Wind turbines require gas turbine backup generators, if there’s too little or too much wind. And when the wind turbines are broken, which is all too often.


Would not it be far simpler to merely place an adjustable energy import tax on all foreign energy imports? And to hell with the Saudi oil lobbyists like  James Baker. An adjustable energy import tax would spur domestic production as well as domestic conservation. What could be simpler?


Google, tell us it’s not so! Tell us that you have not fallen for these wind farm/biofuels flim flam artists.


George Meredith MD
Virginia Beach]]></description>
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<p>When will this Wind Turbine madness stop? Listen! Each wind turbine must be subsidized $245,000 each year, every year, by some poorly informed government. England, Denmark, the Netherlands or in this case, it’s our own tax and spend government.   </p>
<p>Wind turbines don’t work when there is too little wind. Or too much wind. Wind turbines require gas turbine backup generators, if there’s too little or too much wind. And when the wind turbines are broken, which is all too often.</p>
<p>Would not it be far simpler to merely place an adjustable energy import tax on all foreign energy imports? And to hell with the Saudi oil lobbyists like  James Baker. An adjustable energy import tax would spur domestic production as well as domestic conservation. What could be simpler?</p>
<p>Google, tell us it’s not so! Tell us that you have not fallen for these wind farm/biofuels flim flam artists.</p>
<p>George Meredith MD<br />
Virginia Beach</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Salter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-293233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Salter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 13:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who flew a kite when he or she was a kid should realize that this wont work. I understand that it is great fun to do this sort of thing if you are passionate about sail sports, and this appears to be the case at Google.org. What they need to realize is that there is a strong aspect of irresponsibility involved as well. A lot more investment capital from other sources is likely to follow Google.org&#039;s lead and jump into this black hole, thus poisoning the well for new wind power deals that actually have some finite chance of being successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who flew a kite when he or she was a kid should realize that this wont work. I understand that it is great fun to do this sort of thing if you are passionate about sail sports, and this appears to be the case at Google.org. What they need to realize is that there is a strong aspect of irresponsibility involved as well. A lot more investment capital from other sources is likely to follow Google.org&#8217;s lead and jump into this black hole, thus poisoning the well for new wind power deals that actually have some finite chance of being successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Faust</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Faust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Mr. Macnaghten,
      Many are exploring scores of airborne wind energy (AWE) options.  Questions are being faced. Proving systems are increasing. High and low altitude solutions are showing promise. We are gathering in a forum and evolving web for open-source energy kite systems and support closed-source operations.
EnergyKiteSystems.net          Your analysis style is invited to the same.
Lift,
Joe&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Macnaghten,<br />
      Many are exploring scores of airborne wind energy (AWE) options.  Questions are being faced. Proving systems are increasing. High and low altitude solutions are showing promise. We are gathering in a forum and evolving web for open-source energy kite systems and support closed-source operations.<br />
EnergyKiteSystems.net          Your analysis style is invited to the same.<br />
Lift,<br />
Joe</p>
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		<title>By: James Macnaghten</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Macnaghten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 10:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Because Google have invested this whole system seems to have avoided proper technical due diligence. I am a great fan of innovation, but what is proposed seems to have some fairly basic flaws. What I do not understand is why no one is asking them proper questions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For example to generate lift you have to create drag and the last time i looked 30,000 ft of any cable (and conductor to get the power out) weighs quite a bit. Just to lift the cable before you have extracted any energy means creates drag and that means your nice kite is no longer flying vertically, but at say 45 degrees to the ground.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The company want their kites to be in the jetstream, so suddenly they need the cable to be 1.5 times longer, which means you have even more weight to keep flying. Of course as soon as you extract energy from the wind you are slowing down the wind and this creates extra drag over the bit that keeps you aloft. Lets be optimistic and say that the kite is now flying at an angle of 30 degrees to the ground at this point. If they want to stay in the jetstream their cable is now 90,000 ft (???) long. In reality most of would be on the ground.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because Google have invested this whole system seems to have avoided proper technical due diligence. I am a great fan of innovation, but what is proposed seems to have some fairly basic flaws. What I do not understand is why no one is asking them proper questions.</p>
<p>For example to generate lift you have to create drag and the last time i looked 30,000 ft of any cable (and conductor to get the power out) weighs quite a bit. Just to lift the cable before you have extracted any energy means creates drag and that means your nice kite is no longer flying vertically, but at say 45 degrees to the ground.</p>
<p>The company want their kites to be in the jetstream, so suddenly they need the cable to be 1.5 times longer, which means you have even more weight to keep flying. Of course as soon as you extract energy from the wind you are slowing down the wind and this creates extra drag over the bit that keeps you aloft. Lets be optimistic and say that the kite is now flying at an angle of 30 degrees to the ground at this point. If they want to stay in the jetstream their cable is now 90,000 ft (???) long. In reality most of would be on the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul Griffith: Kites as the future of renewable energy &#124; Video on TED.comGriffith &#171; K21st - Essential 21st Century Knowledge</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saul Griffith: Kites as the future of renewable energy &#124; Video on TED.comGriffith &#171; K21st - Essential 21st Century Knowledge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] See also this:  Google Blows $5M More Into Makani&#8217;s High Altitude Wind [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See also this:  Google Blows $5M More Into Makani&#8217;s High Altitude Wind [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 25 Most Promising Green Businesses &#124; Business Pundit</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[25 Most Promising Green Businesses &#124; Business Pundit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Makani Power, still in stealth mode, uses patented “membrane structures” to harness high-altitude wind power. Think of its product as a gigantic, eco-functional kite. The kite gets launched several miles into the air and captures high-altitude winds, which are more dependable than winds closer to the ground. Not surprisingly, the company is staffed by a fair number of kitesurfers. Google has invested $11 million into Makani. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Makani Power, still in stealth mode, uses patented “membrane structures” to harness high-altitude wind power. Think of its product as a gigantic, eco-functional kite. The kite gets launched several miles into the air and captures high-altitude winds, which are more dependable than winds closer to the ground. Not surprisingly, the company is staffed by a fair number of kitesurfers. Google has invested $11 million into Makani. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 25 Most Promising Green Businesses &#124; Green</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[25 Most Promising Green Businesses &#124; Green]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Makani Power, still in stealth mode, uses patented “membrane structures” to harness high-altitude wind power. Think of its product as a gigantic, eco-functional kite. The kite gets launched several miles into the air and captures high-altitude winds, which are more dependable than winds closer to the ground. Not surprisingly, the company is staffed by a fair number of kitesurfers. Google has invested $11 million into Makani. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Makani Power, still in stealth mode, uses patented “membrane structures” to harness high-altitude wind power. Think of its product as a gigantic, eco-functional kite. The kite gets launched several miles into the air and captures high-altitude winds, which are more dependable than winds closer to the ground. Not surprisingly, the company is staffed by a fair number of kitesurfers. Google has invested $11 million into Makani. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google is the #2 Cleantech Investor in the Third Quarter &#171; Earth2Tech</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google is the #2 Cleantech Investor in the Third Quarter &#171; Earth2Tech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] startup Actacell, geothermal company AltaRock Energy, electric vehicle makers Aptera Motors, high-altitude wind developer Makani Power, and geothermal company Potter Drilling. Google had more deals than well-known cleantech investors [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] startup Actacell, geothermal company AltaRock Energy, electric vehicle makers Aptera Motors, high-altitude wind developer Makani Power, and geothermal company Potter Drilling. Google had more deals than well-known cleantech investors [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google is the #2 Cleantech Investor in the Third Quarter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google is the #2 Cleantech Investor in the Third Quarter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] startup Actacell, geothermal company AltaRock Energy, electric vehicle makers Aptera Motors, high-altitude wind developer Makani Power, and geothermal company Potter Drilling. Google had more deals than well-known cleantech investors [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] startup Actacell, geothermal company AltaRock Energy, electric vehicle makers Aptera Motors, high-altitude wind developer Makani Power, and geothermal company Potter Drilling. Google had more deals than well-known cleantech investors [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greentech Media: Cleantech Investing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The return of solar mega-deals</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/google-blows-5m-more-into-makanis-high-altitude-wind/#comment-15106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greentech Media: Cleantech Investing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The return of solar mega-deals]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Week Wire reported that Google has put $5mm into kite-power startup Makani, as part of an ongoing Series [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Week Wire reported that Google has put $5mm into kite-power startup Makani, as part of an ongoing Series [...]</p>
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