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	<title>Comments on: EEStor Backer Zenn Motor Seeks DOE Funds to Build in Michigan</title>
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		<title>By: John Nagle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Nagle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re now into 2010, and I think we can conclude that EEstor was a scam.
They were going to ship product in volume in 2007.  But in reality, they&#039;ve never even shipped sample quantities of their ultracapacitor.  If it was real, they&#039;d have at least demo units available by now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;EEstor may go down in history with the Keely motor, the Moller flying car, and the Nanosolar solar panel.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re now into 2010, and I think we can conclude that EEstor was a scam.<br />
They were going to ship product in volume in 2007.  But in reality, they&#8217;ve never even shipped sample quantities of their ultracapacitor.  If it was real, they&#8217;d have at least demo units available by now.</p>
<p>EEstor may go down in history with the Keely motor, the Moller flying car, and the Nanosolar solar panel.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/eestor-backer-zenn-motor-seeks-doe-funds-to-build-in-michigan/#comment-26413</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;DOE Aware of EEStor but Has Never Seen Functioning Technology
Lyle Dennis December 18th, 2009
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1040403_doe-aware-of-eestor-but-has-never-seen-functioning-technology
This will put the rest the BS of Zenn receiving any DOE funding spread by Baghead Brennan (eestorblog, b) the blogger with the bag over his head, pumper of EESCAM.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And for the record, 2009 is finished and another year ended with EESTor not delivering anything to Zenn.  The scam will continue into 2010.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The BS from 2008 did not change for 2009 in this EESCAM story:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3815&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2999&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOE Aware of EEStor but Has Never Seen Functioning Technology<br />
Lyle Dennis December 18th, 2009<br />
<a href="http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1040403_doe-aware-of-eestor-but-has-never-seen-functioning-technology" rel="nofollow">http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1040403_doe-aware-of-eestor-but-has-never-seen-functioning-technology</a><br />
This will put the rest the BS of Zenn receiving any DOE funding spread by Baghead Brennan (eestorblog, b) the blogger with the bag over his head, pumper of EESCAM.</p>
<p>And for the record, 2009 is finished and another year ended with EESTor not delivering anything to Zenn.  The scam will continue into 2010.</p>
<p>The BS from 2008 did not change for 2009 in this EESCAM story:</p>
<p><a href="http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3815" rel="nofollow">http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3815</a></p>
<p><a href="http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2999" rel="nofollow">http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2999</a></p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cliff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Baghead Tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/eestor-backer-zenn-motor-seeks-doe-funds-to-build-in-michigan/#comment-26411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baghead Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;22 days left in September!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>22 days left in September!</p>
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		<title>By: StevePluvia</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/eestor-backer-zenn-motor-seeks-doe-funds-to-build-in-michigan/#comment-26410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StevePluvia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Zenn Motors is not a car mfgr, they&#039;re a bankrupt printing company.  The only product Zenn Motors will ever produce is pr&#039;s which they use to sell their product. Their product is stock they print on their laser printer, which is then sold by buckshops like Paradog Capital.  This latest PR is part of the ongoing Zenn hype produced by Paradog who did the secondary stock offering for Zenn.  Google &quot;Pump-n-dump&quot; for more info on this project.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zenn Motors is not a car mfgr, they&#8217;re a bankrupt printing company.  The only product Zenn Motors will ever produce is pr&#8217;s which they use to sell their product. Their product is stock they print on their laser printer, which is then sold by buckshops like Paradog Capital.  This latest PR is part of the ongoing Zenn hype produced by Paradog who did the secondary stock offering for Zenn.  Google &#8220;Pump-n-dump&#8221; for more info on this project.</p>
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		<title>By: ZENN_Hopeful</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/eestor-backer-zenn-motor-seeks-doe-funds-to-build-in-michigan/#comment-26409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ZENN_Hopeful]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;ZMC America?  Is there such an entity?  Is someone trying to create hysteria - maybe to drive up Zenn&#039;s stock so they can cash out?  I agree...  This sounds a bit too fishy.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZMC America?  Is there such an entity?  Is someone trying to create hysteria &#8211; maybe to drive up Zenn&#8217;s stock so they can cash out?  I agree&#8230;  This sounds a bit too fishy.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Fandango</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos Fandango]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;If they were actually building multiple variants for different customers needs. They would need huge R&amp;D resources.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is all BS anyhow. The technology if it actually exists is so early stage and hasn&#039;t yet been reliability tested. iT is years from mass production.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do wish they would come clean ASAP. If this is crapolla. Clifford should be executed.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they were actually building multiple variants for different customers needs. They would need huge R&amp;D resources.</p>
<p>This is all BS anyhow. The technology if it actually exists is so early stage and hasn&#8217;t yet been reliability tested. iT is years from mass production.</p>
<p>Do wish they would come clean ASAP. If this is crapolla. Clifford should be executed.</p>
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		<title>By: ejj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ejj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 00:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s about maximizing profits - which is ultimately the goal of every for-profit corporation.  If free government money is available for facilities that means better margins at the end of the day.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about maximizing profits &#8211; which is ultimately the goal of every for-profit corporation.  If free government money is available for facilities that means better margins at the end of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/eestor-backer-zenn-motor-seeks-doe-funds-to-build-in-michigan/#comment-26406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Does seem a bit fishy&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does seem a bit fishy</p>
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		<title>By: Baghead Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baghead Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Is Ian Clifford/Zenn now going to scam the US taxpayers?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ian Clifford did a Q and A with Dr. Lyle of GM-Volt.com on July 20, 2009 titled &quot;EEStor to Publicly Prove its Technology Imminently&quot;?
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1034854_zenn-motors-requests-doe-grant-to-build-us-based-eestor-powered-electric-car-facility#comments
Q-Dr. Lyle:
&quot;So in 2010 certainly we should be able to see some of this?
A-Ian Clifford:
&quot;Yes, absolutely. It will be clearly be demonstrated around the world in 2010 and commercialization is really just a question of how quickly EEStor ramps. We believe well be able to sell everything they can produce. There’s no question there.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why the hell would Zenn need any DOE grant for research if in couple weeks EEStor is to deliver an EESU, and next year (2010) Zenn will &quot;clearly demonstrate&quot; the CityZenn to the world?  Did Ian lie to Dr. Lyle?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not a penny of US taxpayer funds should be used for Zenn research.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Ian Clifford/Zenn now going to scam the US taxpayers?</p>
<p>Ian Clifford did a Q and A with Dr. Lyle of GM-Volt.com on July 20, 2009 titled &#8220;EEStor to Publicly Prove its Technology Imminently&#8221;?<br />
<a href="http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1034854_zenn-motors-requests-doe-grant-to-build-us-based-eestor-powered-electric-car-facility#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1034854_zenn-motors-requests-doe-grant-to-build-us-based-eestor-powered-electric-car-facility#comments</a><br />
Q-Dr. Lyle:<br />
&#8220;So in 2010 certainly we should be able to see some of this?<br />
A-Ian Clifford:<br />
&#8220;Yes, absolutely. It will be clearly be demonstrated around the world in 2010 and commercialization is really just a question of how quickly EEStor ramps. We believe well be able to sell everything they can produce. There’s no question there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why the hell would Zenn need any DOE grant for research if in couple weeks EEStor is to deliver an EESU, and next year (2010) Zenn will &#8220;clearly demonstrate&#8221; the CityZenn to the world?  Did Ian lie to Dr. Lyle?</p>
<p>Not a penny of US taxpayer funds should be used for Zenn research.</p>
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