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	<title>Comments on: Cascade Launches Oh-So-Quiet Rooftop Wind Turbine</title>
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		<title>By: akismet-ae61a05474e38fb33699a7378478fc6e</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-361212</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 01:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Swift does not need batteries but it will not usually produce 2000 kWh per year unless you live in a lighthouse or place like that.  Rooftop wind is not an effective technology, and it will give windpower in general a bad name.  Rootops are not good windpower sites.  Small wind turbines can work well on tall towers on good sites, although they are never a source of cheap electricity.  City dwellers with good intentions should look elsewhere to save the environment.  Put some insulation in your walls and roof and turn off the lights and stuff when you leave the room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Swift does not need batteries but it will not usually produce 2000 kWh per year unless you live in a lighthouse or place like that.  Rooftop wind is not an effective technology, and it will give windpower in general a bad name.  Rootops are not good windpower sites.  Small wind turbines can work well on tall towers on good sites, although they are never a source of cheap electricity.  City dwellers with good intentions should look elsewhere to save the environment.  Put some insulation in your walls and roof and turn off the lights and stuff when you leave the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Fodera</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Fodera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 02:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;My designs for  &#039;ROOFTOP electricity GENERATING WIND TURBINE&#039; have been presented on the internet for a couple of years. Please visit www.queenwindturbine.com to see a unique configuration. Queen Wind Turbines can also be structured along roadsides to convert the kinetic energy of vehicle drafts into electricity. I am merely an innovator and designer; it would be nice to have prototypes made of my products. Anyone interested?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My designs for  &#8216;ROOFTOP electricity GENERATING WIND TURBINE&#8217; have been presented on the internet for a couple of years. Please visit <a href="http://www.queenwindturbine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.queenwindturbine.com</a> to see a unique configuration. Queen Wind Turbines can also be structured along roadsides to convert the kinetic energy of vehicle drafts into electricity. I am merely an innovator and designer; it would be nice to have prototypes made of my products. Anyone interested?</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Marley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William A. Marley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Oh yes ! When you sell the excess electricity to the utility company, they pay you 3/10th of a cent per KwH while they are charging you from $10.00 per KwH to $40.00 per KwH.
Jimmy Carter was a genius when he instituted tax breaks for solar and wind back in the early 80&#039;s. The idiot that screwed up California when he was Governor, recinded those tax breaks when he was President.
If you are looking for state rebates, don&#039;t expend too much energy, you won&#039;t find any unless you live in California. Everyone gets the measley stipend of $4000.00 federal rebate.
     Until we get rid of the blood-sucking utility companies and the (pockets full of utility co. money) people who regulate them we are not going to get anything that will improve our lives electrically that is affordable.
This greening of America is a conspiracy between Obama (Democtrats) and the utilities (Republicans) to screw you out of your hard earned money !
    Build your own wind turbine with an old worn out box fan really cheap, just use the internet, it&#039;ll show you how !
a&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes ! When you sell the excess electricity to the utility company, they pay you 3/10th of a cent per KwH while they are charging you from $10.00 per KwH to $40.00 per KwH.<br />
Jimmy Carter was a genius when he instituted tax breaks for solar and wind back in the early 80&#8242;s. The idiot that screwed up California when he was Governor, recinded those tax breaks when he was President.<br />
If you are looking for state rebates, don&#8217;t expend too much energy, you won&#8217;t find any unless you live in California. Everyone gets the measley stipend of $4000.00 federal rebate.<br />
     Until we get rid of the blood-sucking utility companies and the (pockets full of utility co. money) people who regulate them we are not going to get anything that will improve our lives electrically that is affordable.<br />
This greening of America is a conspiracy between Obama (Democtrats) and the utilities (Republicans) to screw you out of your hard earned money !<br />
    Build your own wind turbine with an old worn out box fan really cheap, just use the internet, it&#8217;ll show you how !<br />
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		<title>By: William A. Marley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16873</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William A. Marley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;If you buy The Swift (above) you&#039;ll have to buy not one but two inverters if you want to run 240v. Each inverter costs around $2K each. Now if you want to use a computer or watch TV without horizontal lines across the picture, you&#039;ll have to get pure sine wave inverters !
These devices cost as much as $10,000.00 each. You can, however, get cheaper ones that don&#039;t work very well. Now you&#039;re going to need a automatic transfer switch for around $2500.00. Ok, you are ready to pay the Electric Utility Company! AEP/PSO of Ohio, which controls areas in many states, not only Ohio. I can say unequivically they are the biggest rip-off electric company on the face of the earth. They&#039;re going to charge you around $5000.00 just to hook-up this equipment.
    This is the greening of America as Barrack Obama says ! Unless the prices come down, only Al Gore will be able to afford greening!
    I haven&#039;t included all the costs, there&#039;s installation at $60.00 per hour. Usually takes me five or six eight hour days. Of course I have a bucket truck that goes up 80 feet. Total, complete installation of this wind turbine would cost around $25,000.00.
     I can install a SKYSTREAM 3.7 (which has a built in pure sine wave inverter that puts out 240v.) for around $10,000.00 complete !&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you buy The Swift (above) you&#8217;ll have to buy not one but two inverters if you want to run 240v. Each inverter costs around $2K each. Now if you want to use a computer or watch TV without horizontal lines across the picture, you&#8217;ll have to get pure sine wave inverters !<br />
These devices cost as much as $10,000.00 each. You can, however, get cheaper ones that don&#8217;t work very well. Now you&#8217;re going to need a automatic transfer switch for around $2500.00. Ok, you are ready to pay the Electric Utility Company! AEP/PSO of Ohio, which controls areas in many states, not only Ohio. I can say unequivically they are the biggest rip-off electric company on the face of the earth. They&#8217;re going to charge you around $5000.00 just to hook-up this equipment.<br />
    This is the greening of America as Barrack Obama says ! Unless the prices come down, only Al Gore will be able to afford greening!<br />
    I haven&#8217;t included all the costs, there&#8217;s installation at $60.00 per hour. Usually takes me five or six eight hour days. Of course I have a bucket truck that goes up 80 feet. Total, complete installation of this wind turbine would cost around $25,000.00.<br />
     I can install a SKYSTREAM 3.7 (which has a built in pure sine wave inverter that puts out 240v.) for around $10,000.00 complete !</p>
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		<title>By: William A. Marley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William A. Marley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Why would I or anybody else buy this albatros for 10~12 thousand dollars when I can buy a SKYSTREAM 3.7 for $5600.00 that produces 450KwH per month ! That&#039;s 5.4KwH per year instead of 2KwH per years for the atrocity above !&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would I or anybody else buy this albatros for 10~12 thousand dollars when I can buy a SKYSTREAM 3.7 for $5600.00 that produces 450KwH per month ! That&#8217;s 5.4KwH per year instead of 2KwH per years for the atrocity above !</p>
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		<title>By: martha</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[martha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;this would be good to have in the event the power gird goes down or local power goes down.  I have been in emergency situations where we went without power for a week or more.  Not fun.  In addition, if you have a medical situation where power is required for survival this is a viable option.  Survivalists would probably advocate a system like this as well.  I live in Nebraska and it is windy here.  This would work well.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this would be good to have in the event the power gird goes down or local power goes down.  I have been in emergency situations where we went without power for a week or more.  Not fun.  In addition, if you have a medical situation where power is required for survival this is a viable option.  Survivalists would probably advocate a system like this as well.  I live in Nebraska and it is windy here.  This would work well.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Can you really put a price on the environment? Can you put a price on future humanity? Come on now, lets spent a little more money and save earth.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you really put a price on the environment? Can you put a price on future humanity? Come on now, lets spent a little more money and save earth.</p>
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		<title>By: home made wind generators</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[home made wind generators]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Smart article.. Will come back again=)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart article.. Will come back again=)</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wiese</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Wiese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I meant to say &quot;Your needs ARE met first&quot; and any additional power is fed into the local grid...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to say &#8220;Your needs ARE met first&#8221; and any additional power is fed into the local grid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wiese</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Wiese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is NOT a stand alone windmill.  Although it could be set up that way.  You don&#039;t need to store the electricity in batteries.
  What it is is a &#039;Grid tied&#039; system.  The electricity generated is fed into an inverter which feeds the local electricity grid.  Your needs a met first, and any additional power is fed into the local grid for distribution to everyone else.  You use less of the grids power.(So you don&#039;t pay for that electricity.)  The electricity you don&#039;t use from the grid is therefore available to other folks.
  You still get power from your wind generated electricity. Any electricity you send to the local electricity grid earns you money!  It will pay off in time without batterys!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is NOT a stand alone windmill.  Although it could be set up that way.  You don&#8217;t need to store the electricity in batteries.<br />
  What it is is a &#8216;Grid tied&#8217; system.  The electricity generated is fed into an inverter which feeds the local electricity grid.  Your needs a met first, and any additional power is fed into the local grid for distribution to everyone else.  You use less of the grids power.(So you don&#8217;t pay for that electricity.)  The electricity you don&#8217;t use from the grid is therefore available to other folks.<br />
  You still get power from your wind generated electricity. Any electricity you send to the local electricity grid earns you money!  It will pay off in time without batterys!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank kandrnal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank kandrnal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 04:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Stand alone alternate energy systems will never make cheap electricity for you. Cost of the batteries is prohibitive and this fact will not change anytime soon.
Batteries age and need replacement, usually sooner than later.
Grid inter-tied system has better chance, but then, you are still tied to utility power.
You cannot compare the alternate energy technology to DVD players and other electronic gadgets. Alternate energy systems are more material intensive, hence the cost will always reflect the ever increasing  material cost, even if the production labor is driven by slave drivers.
The word cheap energy is the dream of the days gone. We lost that chance in anti nuclear sentiment of the past.
You will never see cheap electricity from wind or solar madness. It appears to be cheap because of the heavy subsidies pumped into it right now, but sooner or later we will bear the consequences for what we do today. One thing is certain in our future! The utility bills will be high and standard of living low.
There is only one alternate energy that has the potential to save us from financial oblivion. It is nuclear energy from Thorium. However, how many people ever heard of this safe technology? A very few! Wind and solar is the new religion of the fanatics. Financially, it is unworkable solution propagated by those who are ignorant of the facts.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stand alone alternate energy systems will never make cheap electricity for you. Cost of the batteries is prohibitive and this fact will not change anytime soon.<br />
Batteries age and need replacement, usually sooner than later.<br />
Grid inter-tied system has better chance, but then, you are still tied to utility power.<br />
You cannot compare the alternate energy technology to DVD players and other electronic gadgets. Alternate energy systems are more material intensive, hence the cost will always reflect the ever increasing  material cost, even if the production labor is driven by slave drivers.<br />
The word cheap energy is the dream of the days gone. We lost that chance in anti nuclear sentiment of the past.<br />
You will never see cheap electricity from wind or solar madness. It appears to be cheap because of the heavy subsidies pumped into it right now, but sooner or later we will bear the consequences for what we do today. One thing is certain in our future! The utility bills will be high and standard of living low.<br />
There is only one alternate energy that has the potential to save us from financial oblivion. It is nuclear energy from Thorium. However, how many people ever heard of this safe technology? A very few! Wind and solar is the new religion of the fanatics. Financially, it is unworkable solution propagated by those who are ignorant of the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t be intimidated by the price. $10 to 12,000 is cost-prohibitive on the surface, but there is a $4000 federal tax credit, plus there are oterh credits and low-cost loans available for individuals and businesses located in rural counties. It might end up costing more like $5-6000 after all is said and done.  And $5000 opens up the market to an entirely new group of people.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be intimidated by the price. $10 to 12,000 is cost-prohibitive on the surface, but there is a $4000 federal tax credit, plus there are oterh credits and low-cost loans available for individuals and businesses located in rural counties. It might end up costing more like $5-6000 after all is said and done.  And $5000 opens up the market to an entirely new group of people.</p>
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		<title>By: danny e west</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danny e west]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;folks, come on, what we need is affordable 1.5 to 2 kw power that can be installed by the homeowner. in this economy and considering the coming taxes (carbon, cap-n-trade, etc) there will be more demand for the family unit than commercial. AND there will be less money to buy with.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>folks, come on, what we need is affordable 1.5 to 2 kw power that can be installed by the homeowner. in this economy and considering the coming taxes (carbon, cap-n-trade, etc) there will be more demand for the family unit than commercial. AND there will be less money to buy with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Windpower is not economical. Wind turbines require the energy produced to be stored  in environmentaly unfriendly batteries.The return on investment for wind turbines is terrible compared to nuclear power, a technology which actually has less of an environmental impact than the windmill/battery combination.  Wind would be a better technology if it could produce a continuous stream of reliable electricity at a competitive cost (but unfortunate it cannot). Windmills are toys being built because they are subsidzed by the government much like corn based ethanol plants.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windpower is not economical. Wind turbines require the energy produced to be stored  in environmentaly unfriendly batteries.The return on investment for wind turbines is terrible compared to nuclear power, a technology which actually has less of an environmental impact than the windmill/battery combination.  Wind would be a better technology if it could produce a continuous stream of reliable electricity at a competitive cost (but unfortunate it cannot). Windmills are toys being built because they are subsidzed by the government much like corn based ethanol plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill T</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is inspiring.  First, MI needs all the jobs it can get, so I&#039;m glad Cascade is in Grand Rapids.  Second, small scale wind is still a developing industry.  Remember when CD players cost $400?  DVD players $900?  Wait till communist China starts cranking these out for about $100 a piece, you&#039;ll see Cascade and other companies adjusting accordingly.  Also, look at it this way, we NEED electricity, we don&#039;t need DVD players, yet we buy them anyway.  We also NEED Furnaces, hot water heaters, and clothes washers, -though once upon a time we didn&#039;t have those either, but are now standard in every household.  At some point, it WILL be &#039;code&#039; to have some sort of renewable energy (wind/solar) included in every new build.  Older homes will have to upgrade.  This is a ready product to help make that happen.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is inspiring.  First, MI needs all the jobs it can get, so I&#8217;m glad Cascade is in Grand Rapids.  Second, small scale wind is still a developing industry.  Remember when CD players cost $400?  DVD players $900?  Wait till communist China starts cranking these out for about $100 a piece, you&#8217;ll see Cascade and other companies adjusting accordingly.  Also, look at it this way, we NEED electricity, we don&#8217;t need DVD players, yet we buy them anyway.  We also NEED Furnaces, hot water heaters, and clothes washers, -though once upon a time we didn&#8217;t have those either, but are now standard in every household.  At some point, it WILL be &#8216;code&#8217; to have some sort of renewable energy (wind/solar) included in every new build.  Older homes will have to upgrade.  This is a ready product to help make that happen.</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/cascade-launches-oh-so-quiet-rooftop-wind-turbine/#comment-16861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jesse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;cost is prohibitive. if these companies want to really exsist then they have to bring it to the realm that makes financial sense. It seems that they are just using federal dollor grants for nothing&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cost is prohibitive. if these companies want to really exsist then they have to bring it to the realm that makes financial sense. It seems that they are just using federal dollor grants for nothing</p>
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