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	<title>Comments on: California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities</title>
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		<title>By: Green:Net: 5 Hot Topics That Will Fuel The Future of the Smart Grid</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Green:Net: 5 Hot Topics That Will Fuel The Future of the Smart Grid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] The most closely watched future functionality for smart meters is as a gateway to home area networks (HANs) that can connect to interfaces or Web portals for homeowners to track and manage their energy use. But much of the usefulness of the consumer-utility connection — such as delivering changing real-time prices to customers — could be hard to do over today’s smart meter networks. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The most closely watched future functionality for smart meters is as a gateway to home area networks (HANs) that can connect to interfaces or Web portals for homeowners to track and manage their energy use. But much of the usefulness of the consumer-utility connection — such as delivering changing real-time prices to customers — could be hard to do over today’s smart meter networks. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Smart Grid Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31909</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart Grid Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 16:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] via California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tech Companies Call for Obama to Unleash Energy Info &#124; Weboptium Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tech Companies Call for Obama to Unleash Energy Info &#124; Weboptium Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 19:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] to be spearheading the effort, has been particular outspoken about setting energy information free. Google has also been supporting policies in California state that would require the state&#8217;s big utilities to give near real-time [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be spearheading the effort, has been particular outspoken about setting energy information free. Google has also been supporting policies in California state that would require the state&rsquo;s big utilities to give near real-time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tech Companies Ask Obama to Unleash Energy Info</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31907</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tech Companies Ask Obama to Unleash Energy Info]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] to be spearheading the effort has been particular outspoken on setting energy information free. Google has also been supporting policies in California state that would require the state&#8217;s big utilities to give near real-time [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be spearheading the effort has been particular outspoken on setting energy information free. Google has also been supporting policies in California state that would require the state&#8217;s big utilities to give near real-time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DanS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;By my calculations, that&#039;s still well within dial-up capabilities at the curb, but who on Earth is proposing to push that much data?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By my calculations, that&#8217;s still well within dial-up capabilities at the curb, but who on Earth is proposing to push that much data?</p>
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		<title>By: Niall McShane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niall McShane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Interesting article and discussion.  The implication that real time pricing is dependent on billing settlement that takes place a couple of days after the actual billing interval closes implies a level of precision that is largely unnecessary.  For years, the utilities have absorbed the fluctuations in generation costs within a single fixed rate billing structure.  There does not have to be a direct algorithmic link between real time generation costs and real time billing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If we consider the telecom business, over the last several years they have moved away from a real time billing model to a model of monthly packages and, in many cases unlimited usage.  Clearly, unlimited usage is not a suitable model for energy usage since the objective of the smart grid initiative is to reduce consumption not to promote more consumption.  However, as with the telecom example, I believe that the utility industry can and should develop various pricing models that abstract usage to a higher level and allow for real time pricing.  Some examples of possible models would include:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Monthly usage packages similar to those employed by the telecom industry.  In these models, there could be several tiers of usage with each tier having a different per kWH price.  Reduced consumption could be encouraged by charging premium prices for consumption above a specified level.  An individual plan could have one or more tiers with the first N kWH being charged at the lowest base rate, additional tiers charged at progressively higher rates and any usage above those tiers charged at a significant premium.  To be effective, the lowest tier would have to offer a significant discount over the current fixed rates.  In this case, the pricing signals that would be sent to the consumer would indicate their current consumption against their monthly plan and could even predict the total bill based on consumption trends. Warnings could be sent when a tier threshold is crossed.  The home energy management system could have a role to play here by maintaining data on average daily consumption and using this to forecast total usage for the current billing cycle.  This would not be exact but would provide a signal that the consumer could act on and, over time, the consumer would get a feeling for how accurate the projections are.  In fact the intelligence could be built into the systems to allow them to self calibrate over a period of time to become increasingly accurate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Variable rates based on historical data.  The utilities could develop models of demand based on historical data that predict, for a given set of attributes such as; time of day, day of the week, temperature, humidity, air quality etc, what mix of generation sources they need to call upon to meet demand and the actual cost of that particular mix of generating assets.  Based on these models, they could derive estimated price points.  These could be discrete based on certain thresholds or continuously variable as appropriate.  These price signals would then be sent to consumers or to their smart meters/ home energy management systems to effect demand response.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Other models are possible too.  The important point is that moving to delivery of real time pricing does not necessarily mean that the utilities need to completely overhaul their current offline billing systems and make those real time.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article and discussion.  The implication that real time pricing is dependent on billing settlement that takes place a couple of days after the actual billing interval closes implies a level of precision that is largely unnecessary.  For years, the utilities have absorbed the fluctuations in generation costs within a single fixed rate billing structure.  There does not have to be a direct algorithmic link between real time generation costs and real time billing.</p>
<p>If we consider the telecom business, over the last several years they have moved away from a real time billing model to a model of monthly packages and, in many cases unlimited usage.  Clearly, unlimited usage is not a suitable model for energy usage since the objective of the smart grid initiative is to reduce consumption not to promote more consumption.  However, as with the telecom example, I believe that the utility industry can and should develop various pricing models that abstract usage to a higher level and allow for real time pricing.  Some examples of possible models would include:</p>
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<p>Monthly usage packages similar to those employed by the telecom industry.  In these models, there could be several tiers of usage with each tier having a different per kWH price.  Reduced consumption could be encouraged by charging premium prices for consumption above a specified level.  An individual plan could have one or more tiers with the first N kWH being charged at the lowest base rate, additional tiers charged at progressively higher rates and any usage above those tiers charged at a significant premium.  To be effective, the lowest tier would have to offer a significant discount over the current fixed rates.  In this case, the pricing signals that would be sent to the consumer would indicate their current consumption against their monthly plan and could even predict the total bill based on consumption trends. Warnings could be sent when a tier threshold is crossed.  The home energy management system could have a role to play here by maintaining data on average daily consumption and using this to forecast total usage for the current billing cycle.  This would not be exact but would provide a signal that the consumer could act on and, over time, the consumer would get a feeling for how accurate the projections are.  In fact the intelligence could be built into the systems to allow them to self calibrate over a period of time to become increasingly accurate.</p>
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<p>Variable rates based on historical data.  The utilities could develop models of demand based on historical data that predict, for a given set of attributes such as; time of day, day of the week, temperature, humidity, air quality etc, what mix of generation sources they need to call upon to meet demand and the actual cost of that particular mix of generating assets.  Based on these models, they could derive estimated price points.  These could be discrete based on certain thresholds or continuously variable as appropriate.  These price signals would then be sent to consumers or to their smart meters/ home energy management systems to effect demand response.</p>
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<p>Other models are possible too.  The important point is that moving to delivery of real time pricing does not necessarily mean that the utilities need to completely overhaul their current offline billing systems and make those real time.</p>
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		<title>By: Smart Meters Invade Northern California Making Us Dumber &#124; Brian Prows&#039; Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart Meters Invade Northern California Making Us Dumber &#124; Brian Prows&#039; Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Meters Invade Northern California    Over the past six months or so, so-called wireless &#8220;smart meters&#8221; to measure electricity have been installed in millions of  Northern California homes by [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Meters Invade Northern California    Over the past six months or so, so-called wireless &#8220;smart meters&#8221; to measure electricity have been installed in millions of  Northern California homes by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Would anyone be interested in a home application device that does this for you? a by the minute representation in dollar amount of how much energy your home is consuming?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone be interested in a home application device that does this for you? a by the minute representation in dollar amount of how much energy your home is consuming?</p>
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		<title>By: Smart Grid Data: Too Much For Privacy, Not Enough For Innovation?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smart Grid Data: Too Much For Privacy, Not Enough For Innovation?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] systems. One of the issues that the CPUC is tackling is how utilities should be required to deliver power usage and pricing data to smart meter-enabled customers. But beyond the technical and cost questions, there’s the [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] systems. One of the issues that the CPUC is tackling is how utilities should be required to deliver power usage and pricing data to smart meter-enabled customers. But beyond the technical and cost questions, there’s the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Earth2Tech Week in Review</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Earth2Tech Week in Review]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities: There’s a battle looming in California over smart meters and energy prices. Google says the state should require its big utilities to give near real-time pricing information to every smart meter-enabled customer by the end of next year. California’s big three utilities — Pacific Gas &amp; Electric, Southern California Edison, and San Diego Gas &amp; Electric — have raised plenty of objections to that deadline. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities: There’s a battle looming in California over smart meters and energy prices. Google says the state should require its big utilities to give near real-time pricing information to every smart meter-enabled customer by the end of next year. California’s big three utilities — Pacific Gas &amp; Electric, Southern California Edison, and San Diego Gas &amp; Electric — have raised plenty of objections to that deadline. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is Open Source the Answer to Residential Demand Response? &#8211; Earth2Tech</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is Open Source the Answer to Residential Demand Response? &#8211; Earth2Tech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] isn’t on that list yet, but it might well be interested, Piette said. Google has asked the CPUC to set deadlines for California’s big utilities to give their customers real time energy [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] isn’t on that list yet, but it might well be interested, Piette said. Google has asked the CPUC to set deadlines for California’s big utilities to give their customers real time energy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Husen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Just to elaborate on a few of the points made. The first question that pops into my mind when thinking about real-time pricing is &quot;what is the value-added benefit of this feature?&quot; Under current pricing models, The basic billing formula is simple arithmetic -&gt; kWh x rate + surcharges = your bill. This feature, at least in its inception, will be either an added benefit charged to the customer for a nominal fee or a feature for everyone with the cost thrown in with the other surcharges. Do customers really want to pay for that feature when it&#039;s so easy to figure out on their own?
As the smart grid infrastructure continues to develop and dynamic pricing models come into play, there will be a greater benefit to having real-time pricing; however, that benefit is still dependent of which model is employed. A simple peak/off-peak rate plan will give two different costs of electricity. The effect on the basic billing formula is minor. Truly dynamic, real-time consumer pricing would require significant changes to how utilities handle power purchases, billing, and network design. The purchase of peak power on the open market injects a mess into the pricing algorithm. While this can be sorted out, one must ponder &quot;at what cost?&quot; When considering what information would result in customers making meaningful changes to their routines to save electricity, do they need to have an in-home display with a continually fluctuating cost of electricity or would a simple message with the current and/or previous day&#039;s total cost be enough to make meaningful changes?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The lack of finalized standards for the smart grid is another piece that comes into play. No utility is terribly willing to make drastic changes to their systems with the fear that they may have to change them again once DOE standards are set in the future.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another issue is whether or not the consumer is ready to see this kind of rapidly-changing data. The swings from base load to peak power can be great and are constantly changing with the market. If this information is fed too quickly, customers with good intentions of being conscientious of their energy usage may experience information overload. The result is discouragement and cessation of use of these great tools.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to elaborate on a few of the points made. The first question that pops into my mind when thinking about real-time pricing is &#8220;what is the value-added benefit of this feature?&#8221; Under current pricing models, The basic billing formula is simple arithmetic -&gt; kWh x rate + surcharges = your bill. This feature, at least in its inception, will be either an added benefit charged to the customer for a nominal fee or a feature for everyone with the cost thrown in with the other surcharges. Do customers really want to pay for that feature when it&#8217;s so easy to figure out on their own?<br />
As the smart grid infrastructure continues to develop and dynamic pricing models come into play, there will be a greater benefit to having real-time pricing; however, that benefit is still dependent of which model is employed. A simple peak/off-peak rate plan will give two different costs of electricity. The effect on the basic billing formula is minor. Truly dynamic, real-time consumer pricing would require significant changes to how utilities handle power purchases, billing, and network design. The purchase of peak power on the open market injects a mess into the pricing algorithm. While this can be sorted out, one must ponder &#8220;at what cost?&#8221; When considering what information would result in customers making meaningful changes to their routines to save electricity, do they need to have an in-home display with a continually fluctuating cost of electricity or would a simple message with the current and/or previous day&#8217;s total cost be enough to make meaningful changes?</p>
<p>The lack of finalized standards for the smart grid is another piece that comes into play. No utility is terribly willing to make drastic changes to their systems with the fear that they may have to change them again once DOE standards are set in the future.</p>
<p>Another issue is whether or not the consumer is ready to see this kind of rapidly-changing data. The swings from base load to peak power can be great and are constantly changing with the market. If this information is fed too quickly, customers with good intentions of being conscientious of their energy usage may experience information overload. The result is discouragement and cessation of use of these great tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Husen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The current figures of truly real-time data transmitted for 1.4 million smartmeters is 100 petabytes annually. To that you have to add data from the utilities to the meters for pricing information and demand-response instructions. Utilities may also have real-time usage data accessible via a web portal or smartphone app. There is far more information being transmitted than initially meets the eye.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current figures of truly real-time data transmitted for 1.4 million smartmeters is 100 petabytes annually. To that you have to add data from the utilities to the meters for pricing information and demand-response instructions. Utilities may also have real-time usage data accessible via a web portal or smartphone app. There is far more information being transmitted than initially meets the eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Could we start with smart transformers that don&#039;t explode on a regular basis?  Or smart distribution lines, that don&#039;t cause outages during moderate weather?  It&#039;s not like the Bay Area has tornados or ice storms.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As to real-time data, what&#039;s so difficult?  If you are interested in real-time data, you most likely already have Internet access, the utility doesn&#039;t need to provide it.  A wireless webcam pointed at the meter and some OCR software would provider real-time data for under $50 per meter.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could we start with smart transformers that don&#8217;t explode on a regular basis?  Or smart distribution lines, that don&#8217;t cause outages during moderate weather?  It&#8217;s not like the Bay Area has tornados or ice storms.</p>
<p>As to real-time data, what&#8217;s so difficult?  If you are interested in real-time data, you most likely already have Internet access, the utility doesn&#8217;t need to provide it.  A wireless webcam pointed at the meter and some OCR software would provider real-time data for under $50 per meter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rise &#38; Shine: March 18, 2010 &#124; Sweet Solar Home</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/california%e2%80%99s-smart-meter-battle-google-vs-utilities/#comment-31896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rise &#38; Shine: March 18, 2010 &#124; Sweet Solar Home]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] California’s Smart Meter Battle: Google vs. Utilities There’s a battle looming in California over smart meters and energy prices. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tendril to Launch Digital Clock Inspired Home Energy Gadget</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tendril to Launch Digital Clock Inspired Home Energy Gadget]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] events, how &#8220;real-time&#8221; that information will be totally depends on the utility. As we&#8217;ve been reporting this week most utilities won&#8217;t be able to provide anything close to real-time pricing information to [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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