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	<title>Comments on: Bloom Energy CEO: Fuel Cells for Home Power Will Hit &quot;Grid Parity&quot; Within 5 Years</title>
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		<title>By: James T. McKnight</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-556621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James T. McKnight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is essential for honest communication that it be understood that Natural gas or any fossil fuel cannot be called &quot;GREEN Energy&quot;, these energy sources are NOT renewable and therefore cannot be called &quot;GREEN&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is essential for honest communication that it be understood that Natural gas or any fossil fuel cannot be called &#8220;GREEN Energy&#8221;, these energy sources are NOT renewable and therefore cannot be called &#8220;GREEN&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Anderson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is great please keep me informed of any new updates.I would like more data if you have it avarible.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great please keep me informed of any new updates.I would like more data if you have it avarible.</p>
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		<title>By: Salwan M. Samaraie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salwan M. Samaraie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I would like to buy 6 boxes to try in my country where we have a catastrophic problblem of electricity.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to buy 6 boxes to try in my country where we have a catastrophic problblem of electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Fuel Cell Startups Hot on Bloom Energy’s Trail</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[10 Fuel Cell Startups Hot on Bloom Energy’s Trail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] making fuel cells that can produce electricity as costs that are competitive with grid power — Bloom Energy’s goal — has remained out of reach so [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] making fuel cells that can produce electricity as costs that are competitive with grid power — Bloom Energy’s goal — has remained out of reach so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Is the product by Bloom Energy going to wind up like the Tesla Roadster? There was a LOT of hype and bloggers claiming they were going to line up to get one, and then the actual proce tag came out and reality set in. This happened again with the Nexus One.. huge hype on the blogs, but overall pretty lackluster sales and a high price tag.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A home fuel cell device is obviously going to be REALLY expensive any way you look at it. Or is there something else in the works?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the product by Bloom Energy going to wind up like the Tesla Roadster? There was a LOT of hype and bloggers claiming they were going to line up to get one, and then the actual proce tag came out and reality set in. This happened again with the Nexus One.. huge hype on the blogs, but overall pretty lackluster sales and a high price tag.</p>
<p>A home fuel cell device is obviously going to be REALLY expensive any way you look at it. Or is there something else in the works?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Where can I invest as a site user?
Where can I invest as an investor?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I invest as a site user?<br />
Where can I invest as an investor?</p>
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		<title>By: george mongar</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[george mongar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 02:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;am  interested in purchasing.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>am  interested in purchasing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloom Energy to Open the Kimono Next Week?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bloom Energy to Open the Kimono Next Week?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] million in financing &#8212; “ten times as much capital,” compared to other venture companies Kleiner partner Doerr noted recently &#8212; and reportedly raised money last year at a pre-money valuation of $1.45 billion. The [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] million in financing &#8212; “ten times as much capital,” compared to other venture companies Kleiner partner Doerr noted recently &#8212; and reportedly raised money last year at a pre-money valuation of $1.45 billion. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ebay dvd</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ebay dvd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Please post more like this. I found it very informative.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m going to help spread the word about this great blog.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please post more like this. I found it very informative.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to help spread the word about this great blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuel cells for home use at grid parity in 3-5 years &#124;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fuel cells for home use at grid parity in 3-5 years &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] could be a seriously big deal. [Early test systems] deliver enough power at twice the efficiency of a standard gas-burning boiler system, with 60 percent fewer emissions, [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] could be a seriously big deal. [Early test systems] deliver enough power at twice the efficiency of a standard gas-burning boiler system, with 60 percent fewer emissions, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bilsko</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/bloom-energy-ceo-fuel-cells-for-the-home-will-hit-grid-parity-within-5-years/#comment-28861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bilsko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s particularly frustrating about Bloom is the lack of any specifics when it comes to what they&#039;re working on, or what they plan to release in the next year or so.  So far, it really has taken on this image of &#039;vaporware&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Within the past two or three months alone, I&#039;ve read about a 5kW unit, a 25 kW unit, and, from the Business Week article, a 100kW unit(they mention 5 units sold to eBay that produce up to 500kW)...so which is it?
Aaron notes that part of the secrecy is because they want to have field experience that demonstrates that they have a reliable product. The problem is that Solid Oxide Fuel Cells typically operate at really high temperatures and that takes toll on the materials used. Bloom may have a product that operates at lower temperatures (thus increasing stack life and the life of the other components).  So presumably all of these tests with U. Tennessee and eBay and others are to verify this -  but in order to be competitive with existing commercial offerings they need to hit at least 50k operating hours...well thats at least 6 years of operation...and if the tests don&#039;t go as planned it could be a lot longer before we see Bloom ready to sell anything.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the economics of the fuel cell, its incredibly difficult to imagine a set of circumstances in which they&#039;ll approach anything close to grid-parity anytime soon.  OK, if you&#039;re talking about just the manufactured price (which is how a lot of solar PV manufacturers get away with the grid-parity claim)...and if you wrap in the 30% ITC credit, and various state capital offsets, and RECS, and maybe you&#039;re talking about 17c/kWh grid rates in Alaska or Connecticut, oh and don&#039;t forget to waive the interconnection fees! Absent stacking the deck in their favor with those parameters, its just hard to imagine.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s particularly frustrating about Bloom is the lack of any specifics when it comes to what they&#8217;re working on, or what they plan to release in the next year or so.  So far, it really has taken on this image of &#8216;vaporware&#8217;.</p>
<p>Within the past two or three months alone, I&#8217;ve read about a 5kW unit, a 25 kW unit, and, from the Business Week article, a 100kW unit(they mention 5 units sold to eBay that produce up to 500kW)&#8230;so which is it?<br />
Aaron notes that part of the secrecy is because they want to have field experience that demonstrates that they have a reliable product. The problem is that Solid Oxide Fuel Cells typically operate at really high temperatures and that takes toll on the materials used. Bloom may have a product that operates at lower temperatures (thus increasing stack life and the life of the other components).  So presumably all of these tests with U. Tennessee and eBay and others are to verify this &#8211;  but in order to be competitive with existing commercial offerings they need to hit at least 50k operating hours&#8230;well thats at least 6 years of operation&#8230;and if the tests don&#8217;t go as planned it could be a lot longer before we see Bloom ready to sell anything.</p>
<p>As for the economics of the fuel cell, its incredibly difficult to imagine a set of circumstances in which they&#8217;ll approach anything close to grid-parity anytime soon.  OK, if you&#8217;re talking about just the manufactured price (which is how a lot of solar PV manufacturers get away with the grid-parity claim)&#8230;and if you wrap in the 30% ITC credit, and various state capital offsets, and RECS, and maybe you&#8217;re talking about 17c/kWh grid rates in Alaska or Connecticut, oh and don&#8217;t forget to waive the interconnection fees! Absent stacking the deck in their favor with those parameters, its just hard to imagine.</p>
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