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	<title>Comments on: Are Commercial Buildings Ready for Open-Source Energy Management?</title>
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		<title>By: open4energy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-266120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[open4energy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[open4energy provides an open source data center energy monitoring solution based on Cacti. I am not saying this to promote us, rather to say that we understand the challenge of open source.

Although Cacti has been available to do data center energy monitoring for at least 3 years, the number of data centers using it to monitor their energy use is limited indeed. It should come as no surprise that the one company who track the energy cost of releasing software downloads, using cacti, is Mozilla.

The issue is clearly not in the capabilities. If you look at content management, Drupal has over 7 million web sites, and Apache delivers 49% of all Web sites.

So what is the issue?

Well! One large Bay Area corporation said &quot;the energy cost of our data center, relative to our other costs, is simply too low to justify the human effort of a solution.&quot; Ouch!

But they were right, energy, when compared to other business costs, is simply too low on the cost totem pole for the average CFO to pay much attention. 

So yes, we are paying lip service to the need to be energy efficient, but until the issue is legislated, or the costs go up to the point it is a factor along with health care and other employee issues, it seems that open source will be an honest reflection of the REAL (rather than market hyped) interest in energy solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>open4energy provides an open source data center energy monitoring solution based on Cacti. I am not saying this to promote us, rather to say that we understand the challenge of open source.</p>
<p>Although Cacti has been available to do data center energy monitoring for at least 3 years, the number of data centers using it to monitor their energy use is limited indeed. It should come as no surprise that the one company who track the energy cost of releasing software downloads, using cacti, is Mozilla.</p>
<p>The issue is clearly not in the capabilities. If you look at content management, Drupal has over 7 million web sites, and Apache delivers 49% of all Web sites.</p>
<p>So what is the issue?</p>
<p>Well! One large Bay Area corporation said &#8220;the energy cost of our data center, relative to our other costs, is simply too low to justify the human effort of a solution.&#8221; Ouch!</p>
<p>But they were right, energy, when compared to other business costs, is simply too low on the cost totem pole for the average CFO to pay much attention. </p>
<p>So yes, we are paying lip service to the need to be energy efficient, but until the issue is legislated, or the costs go up to the point it is a factor along with health care and other employee issues, it seems that open source will be an honest reflection of the REAL (rather than market hyped) interest in energy solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: JimA</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-23649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Re: Alex - standard protocols are not open source - they are implemented in proprietary systems, and the standards are often &#039;enhanced&#039; by a manufacturer (if not just interpreted differently), which can cause headaches for any other mfg. on the same network.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, Niagara can glue anybodies anything together, but you had to pay for the license, and you must use the framework to develop the machine &amp; human interfaces.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Alex &#8211; standard protocols are not open source &#8211; they are implemented in proprietary systems, and the standards are often &#8216;enhanced&#8217; by a manufacturer (if not just interpreted differently), which can cause headaches for any other mfg. on the same network.</p>
<p>Yes, Niagara can glue anybodies anything together, but you had to pay for the license, and you must use the framework to develop the machine &amp; human interfaces.</p>
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		<title>By: Chu: For Green Building Design, We Need to Go Open Source</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-23648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chu: For Green Building Design, We Need to Go Open Source]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Scholten, vice president of business development for NovusEdge, told us recently that it&#8217;s time for the commercial building energy management industry &#8212; which is now [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scholten, vice president of business development for NovusEdge, told us recently that it&#8217;s time for the commercial building energy management industry &#8212; which is now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Four short links: 19 June 2009 &#124; Design Website</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Four short links: 19 June 2009 &#124; Design Website]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Open Source Energy Management for Commercial Buildings &#8212; open source project to enable interoperable applications for integrated Building Automation Systems (BAS). From NovusEdge. I wonder how they&#8217;re planning to spread their open source and use it to disrupt. (via earth2tech and timoreilly on Twitter) [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Open Source Energy Management for Commercial Buildings &#8212; open source project to enable interoperable applications for integrated Building Automation Systems (BAS). From NovusEdge. I wonder how they&#8217;re planning to spread their open source and use it to disrupt. (via earth2tech and timoreilly on Twitter) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Four short links: 19 June 2009 &#124; Tech-monkey.info Blogs</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-23646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Four short links: 19 June 2009 &#124; Tech-monkey.info Blogs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Open Source Energy Management for Commercial Buildings &#8212; open source project to enable interoperable applications for integrated Building Automation Systems (BAS). From NovusEdge. I wonder how they&#8217;re planning to spread their open source and use it to disrupt. (via earth2tech and timoreilly on Twitter) [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Open Source Energy Management for Commercial Buildings &#8212; open source project to enable interoperable applications for integrated Building Automation Systems (BAS). From NovusEdge. I wonder how they&#8217;re planning to spread their open source and use it to disrupt. (via earth2tech and timoreilly on Twitter) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open source energy management in buildings</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-23645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Open source energy management in buildings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] article by Katie Fehrenbacher in Earth2Tech, mentions the OpenLynx project, started by Anno Scholten, vice president of business [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article by Katie Fehrenbacher in Earth2Tech, mentions the OpenLynx project, started by Anno Scholten, vice president of business [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Links 12/06/2009: Hadopi Down &#124; Boycott Novell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links 12/06/2009: Hadopi Down &#124; Boycott Novell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Are Commercial Buildings Ready for Open-Source Energy Management? Picture the lighting and chillers of commercial buildings being controlled by a system designed in the same way as Mozilla’s Firefox — through open source, the collaborative method of developing software source code. While we’ve covered open source-based home area energy management systems, the OpenLynx project, started by Anno Scholten, vice president of business development for NovusEdge, is looking to tackle the underlying software that controls the energy consumption of massive commercial buildings. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are Commercial Buildings Ready for Open-Source Energy Management? Picture the lighting and chillers of commercial buildings being controlled by a system designed in the same way as Mozilla’s Firefox — through open source, the collaborative method of developing software source code. While we’ve covered open source-based home area energy management systems, the OpenLynx project, started by Anno Scholten, vice president of business development for NovusEdge, is looking to tackle the underlying software that controls the energy consumption of massive commercial buildings. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Serendipity &#187; Open Energy Projects?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-23643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Open Serendipity &#187; Open Energy Projects?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] - No code yet, but a this earth2tech article says:  &#8220;&#8230;the OpenLynx project, started by Anno Scholten, vice president of business [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; No code yet, but a this earth2tech article says:  &#8220;&#8230;the OpenLynx project, started by Anno Scholten, vice president of business [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shai Sachs</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/cleantech/are-commercial-buildings-ready-for-open-source-energy-management/#comment-23642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shai Sachs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Has anyone had a chance to find and download the OpenLynx source code?  I tried browsing the CVS repository via SourceForge, and there doesn&#039;t appear to be anything there.  Nor does a Google search turn up anything useful.  I suppose the proper forum for this sort of question is the forum at SourceForge, but the only activity there are a couple of messages saying &quot;where is the source code?&quot; (see http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3185105&amp;forum_id=825830).  Is any of the OpenLynx source code available to the public, and if so, where?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone had a chance to find and download the OpenLynx source code?  I tried browsing the CVS repository via SourceForge, and there doesn&#8217;t appear to be anything there.  Nor does a Google search turn up anything useful.  I suppose the proper forum for this sort of question is the forum at SourceForge, but the only activity there are a couple of messages saying &#8220;where is the source code?&#8221; (see <a href="http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3185105&#038;forum_id=825830" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3185105&#038;forum_id=825830</a>).  Is any of the OpenLynx source code available to the public, and if so, where?</p>
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		<title>By: The Daily Five: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009 &#124; EcoTech Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Daily Five: Wednesday, 10 June, 2009 &#124; EcoTech Daily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Will commercial buildings start having their energy use managed by the likes of Mozilla? OK, so maybe not Mozilla, but there is open-source software being developed that could be implemented in commercial buildings to manage their energy use. I am all for this, as the ingenuity of the public is sometimes way better than that of only a few people stuck in a room somewhere. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will commercial buildings start having their energy use managed by the likes of Mozilla? OK, so maybe not Mozilla, but there is open-source software being developed that could be implemented in commercial buildings to manage their energy use. I am all for this, as the ingenuity of the public is sometimes way better than that of only a few people stuck in a room somewhere. [...]</p>
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