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		<title>By: Apple’s Maiden Voyage Into the Cloud &#171; Apple News Daily</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] first launched iTools back in 2000, the service was free to users of Mac OS 9. Then in 2002 it became a subscription based service and was renamed as .Mac. The trend continued and the online service now known as MobileMe continued [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first launched iTools back in 2000, the service was free to users of Mac OS 9. Then in 2002 it became a subscription based service and was renamed as .Mac. The trend continued and the online service now known as MobileMe continued [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Apple&#8217;s Maiden Voyage Into the Cloud</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] first launched iTools back in 2000, the service was free to users of Mac OS 9. Then in 2002 it became a subscription based service and was renamed as .Mac. The trend continued and the online service now known as MobileMe continued [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first launched iTools back in 2000, the service was free to users of Mac OS 9. Then in 2002 it became a subscription based service and was renamed as .Mac. The trend continued and the online service now known as MobileMe continued [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda S</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Commenting usually isnt my thing, but ive spent an hour on the site, so thanks for the info]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting usually isnt my thing, but ive spent an hour on the site, so thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: sierragoddess</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/why-i-will-probably-not-renew-my-mac-account/#comment-313132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sierragoddess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Mr Hargreaves and all comments for confirming my decision to not renew my .mac account. I&#039;ve been a faithful Apple/MAC devotee since inception...back when .mac was free, the iDisk actually worked, and it was easy to find  Apple technical support contact information on the website and in manuals.

But this year, I refused to fork over $99 to renew a service that has not improved with the price tag. In agreement with others stated above: I can get free, bigger, better, and faster service elsewhere.

Some months ago, I added my &quot;complaints&quot; to a thread of similar issues about .MAC on the Apple support discussion board, (slow speed, downtime, spam, useless &quot;free&quot; software, cumbersome iDisk, etc.) The reply to my post (and others) was so condescending and unhelpful...basically I am a stupid user, I need to stop whinging and .MAC is the best email system.

Immediately, I put an auto responder on my .mac account to let everyone know that I was discontinuing my .mac account and to contact me on my gmail account. My .mac account expired three months later and I didn&#039;t renew. Most everyone got the message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr Hargreaves and all comments for confirming my decision to not renew my .mac account. I&#8217;ve been a faithful Apple/MAC devotee since inception&#8230;back when .mac was free, the iDisk actually worked, and it was easy to find  Apple technical support contact information on the website and in manuals.</p>
<p>But this year, I refused to fork over $99 to renew a service that has not improved with the price tag. In agreement with others stated above: I can get free, bigger, better, and faster service elsewhere.</p>
<p>Some months ago, I added my &#8220;complaints&#8221; to a thread of similar issues about .MAC on the Apple support discussion board, (slow speed, downtime, spam, useless &#8220;free&#8221; software, cumbersome iDisk, etc.) The reply to my post (and others) was so condescending and unhelpful&#8230;basically I am a stupid user, I need to stop whinging and .MAC is the best email system.</p>
<p>Immediately, I put an auto responder on my .mac account to let everyone know that I was discontinuing my .mac account and to contact me on my gmail account. My .mac account expired three months later and I didn&#8217;t renew. Most everyone got the message.</p>
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		<title>By: MIstalala</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MIstalala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad I found this blog page because I&#039;ve been wondering why we are even paying for .mac mail anyway on a system provinding the service. There is Yahoo, Hotmail, Juno. People like that who provide free mail services. For a hundred bucks at that. That is ridiculous.

Thanks All. I wont be singing up for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad I found this blog page because I&#8217;ve been wondering why we are even paying for .mac mail anyway on a system provinding the service. There is Yahoo, Hotmail, Juno. People like that who provide free mail services. For a hundred bucks at that. That is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Thanks All. I wont be singing up for this.</p>
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		<title>By: vanni</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/why-i-will-probably-not-renew-my-mac-account/#comment-313130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi. anyone know if there is a  difference if i buy a Apple .Mac 4.0 or .Mac 5.0 on Amazon.com for renewal purposes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi. anyone know if there is a  difference if i buy a Apple .Mac 4.0 or .Mac 5.0 on Amazon.com for renewal purposes?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a new convert to the MAC computer, and I am lovin it.  I purchased the .MAC and set up an email address and that is about it.  I dont even really use it due to all the issues of the service being down.  I have not found any value add to continue to pay for the service.  To me the backups are more secure when you purchase an external drive.  That way you have your files with you.  The only thing that I use on a regular basis is the encryption over iChat.  I dont think that it is worth the price of admission.  Just my 2 cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a new convert to the MAC computer, and I am lovin it.  I purchased the .MAC and set up an email address and that is about it.  I dont even really use it due to all the issues of the service being down.  I have not found any value add to continue to pay for the service.  To me the backups are more secure when you purchase an external drive.  That way you have your files with you.  The only thing that I use on a regular basis is the encryption over iChat.  I dont think that it is worth the price of admission.  Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: hilli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hilli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s gone again. Just tried to access my Dotmac-Webmail, and all I get is this error message: http://www.evilhell.net/wp-content/dotmac.GIF]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s gone again. Just tried to access my Dotmac-Webmail, and all I get is this error message: <a href="http://www.evilhell.net/wp-content/dotmac.GIF" rel="nofollow">http://www.evilhell.net/wp-content/dotmac.GIF</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Dork Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Dork Report for September 6, 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dork Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Dork Report for September 6, 2006]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] .Mac catches more flak, this time from The Apple Blog. I totally agree on at least three points: iDisk is useful but painfully slow, iWeb URLs are ridiculously long and impossible to remember, and the Berlin Wall between iWeb and Homepage sucks. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] .Mac catches more flak, this time from The Apple Blog. I totally agree on at least three points: iDisk is useful but painfully slow, iWeb URLs are ridiculously long and impossible to remember, and the Berlin Wall between iWeb and Homepage sucks. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vanni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well are aren&#039;t we a bit off topic! But let me leave you with a Bob quote before i leave for a weekend of wine making:

&quot;Look out kid
Don&#039;t matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don&#039;t try &quot;No Doz&quot;
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don&#039;t need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows&quot;


s: Subterranean Homesick Blues]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well are aren&#8217;t we a bit off topic! But let me leave you with a Bob quote before i leave for a weekend of wine making:</p>
<p>&#8220;Look out kid<br />
Don&#8217;t matter what you did<br />
Walk on your tip toes<br />
Don&#8217;t try &#8220;No Doz&#8221;<br />
Better stay away from those<br />
That carry around a fire hose<br />
Keep a clean nose<br />
Watch the plain clothes<br />
You don&#8217;t need a weather man<br />
To know which way the wind blows&#8221;</p>
<p>s: Subterranean Homesick Blues</p>
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		<title>By: Tony DeRymer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony DeRymer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Understood Ken,

And yes there are certain things that I would not write down in any email .Mac or Gmail.

As for the free alternatives to .Mac mail using information contained in emails as a marketing tool (ala Gmail) that is something that I am aware of and I accept. I also believe that it is algorithms rather than human intervention that provide these encroachments into privacy / extra value services depending on your view point.

Whilst I do not consider the contents of my emails public domain I equally accept that they may be viewed by the company that provides the service or the government, that is if I was to do anything that would arouse suspicion. As to how these electronic communications would gain the interest of the authorities I would think that an individual would have to be mentioning certain words / phrases for the filters to pick up on them. I&#039;m not sure how mind blowingly complex this issue could get or if the powers that be are scanning everything everybody is doing anyway. It does stand to reason that if Google are analysing the email contents for marketing purposes it would be very simple for them to track anything untoward.

I know that the UK police have foiled a number of terrorist attacks recently I wonder if any of these successes have been helped by the relaxation of privacy laws?

I would be uncomfortable if Google sold my Data to a 3rd party rather than matched the contents with possible services. However I do not believe that this is how they do business please correct me if I&#039;m wrong as we are getting very deep here.

As for stealing data I would think the risks would be comparable what ever email service you used (so long as it isn&#039;t Bob the crooks email service). We all have to take our security seriously online and off-line.

I don&#039;t think it is off topic as this discussion will at least inform people about the pro&#039;s and con&#039;s of something so &quot;simple&quot; as signing up to a free email service and dropping .Mac.

I would like to say that I&#039;m a left wing person and I do take these issues seriously. However I&#039;m not looking to do harm to anyone or commit a crime so I don&#039;t really worry about privacy in this instance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood Ken,</p>
<p>And yes there are certain things that I would not write down in any email .Mac or Gmail.</p>
<p>As for the free alternatives to .Mac mail using information contained in emails as a marketing tool (ala Gmail) that is something that I am aware of and I accept. I also believe that it is algorithms rather than human intervention that provide these encroachments into privacy / extra value services depending on your view point.</p>
<p>Whilst I do not consider the contents of my emails public domain I equally accept that they may be viewed by the company that provides the service or the government, that is if I was to do anything that would arouse suspicion. As to how these electronic communications would gain the interest of the authorities I would think that an individual would have to be mentioning certain words / phrases for the filters to pick up on them. I&#8217;m not sure how mind blowingly complex this issue could get or if the powers that be are scanning everything everybody is doing anyway. It does stand to reason that if Google are analysing the email contents for marketing purposes it would be very simple for them to track anything untoward.</p>
<p>I know that the UK police have foiled a number of terrorist attacks recently I wonder if any of these successes have been helped by the relaxation of privacy laws?</p>
<p>I would be uncomfortable if Google sold my Data to a 3rd party rather than matched the contents with possible services. However I do not believe that this is how they do business please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong as we are getting very deep here.</p>
<p>As for stealing data I would think the risks would be comparable what ever email service you used (so long as it isn&#8217;t Bob the crooks email service). We all have to take our security seriously online and off-line.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it is off topic as this discussion will at least inform people about the pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s of something so &#8220;simple&#8221; as signing up to a free email service and dropping .Mac.</p>
<p>I would like to say that I&#8217;m a left wing person and I do take these issues seriously. However I&#8217;m not looking to do harm to anyone or commit a crime so I don&#8217;t really worry about privacy in this instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony,

You don&#039;t have to be a &quot;bad guy&quot; or do something illegal in order to care about your privacy. We need to be able to communicate without someone listening, reading or examining what we say, with who and how.

Privacy is something that we tend to give up on recently for the sake of our security, although it doesn&#039;t seem to have helped a lot. And at the same time, our lives become more transparent and we become more vulnerable to those who handle our personal information.

And there is no guarantee that our information will always remain in the hands of those who care about us in a good way. Data get lost, sold, stolen... and you may never know about it.

Thanks for allowing me to be a little off-topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a &#8220;bad guy&#8221; or do something illegal in order to care about your privacy. We need to be able to communicate without someone listening, reading or examining what we say, with who and how.</p>
<p>Privacy is something that we tend to give up on recently for the sake of our security, although it doesn&#8217;t seem to have helped a lot. And at the same time, our lives become more transparent and we become more vulnerable to those who handle our personal information.</p>
<p>And there is no guarantee that our information will always remain in the hands of those who care about us in a good way. Data get lost, sold, stolen&#8230; and you may never know about it.</p>
<p>Thanks for allowing me to be a little off-topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony DeRymer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony DeRymer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Diego, I do understand your points but I don&#039;t really do anything with my Google account that worries me privacy wise. If I was to do anything illegal via the web then I would be paranoid what ever ISP/Provider that I used. I believe the authorities on both sides of the Atlantic invest a lot of time and money into tracking down people who are using the internet to carry out crimes.

You could also say that Google and Yahoo have questionable morals with regards to China for instance, but from recent reports Apple could also try harder (and now are doing).

I would say that I&#039;m a pretty average web user apart from being a builder of websites and I certainly don&#039;t produce sites for any bad guys...

My point being on the whole if you keep your nose clean then you have nothing to worry about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Diego, I do understand your points but I don&#8217;t really do anything with my Google account that worries me privacy wise. If I was to do anything illegal via the web then I would be paranoid what ever ISP/Provider that I used. I believe the authorities on both sides of the Atlantic invest a lot of time and money into tracking down people who are using the internet to carry out crimes.</p>
<p>You could also say that Google and Yahoo have questionable morals with regards to China for instance, but from recent reports Apple could also try harder (and now are doing).</p>
<p>I would say that I&#8217;m a pretty average web user apart from being a builder of websites and I certainly don&#8217;t produce sites for any bad guys&#8230;</p>
<p>My point being on the whole if you keep your nose clean then you have nothing to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: vanni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lets try that with both fingers;
Diego - you bring up some good points. There is indeed no free lunch.

muchos tacos ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets try that with both fingers;<br />
Diego &#8211; you bring up some good points. There is indeed no free lunch.</p>
<p>muchos tacos ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: vanni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diego - you bring up some good poit. muchos tcos]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diego &#8211; you bring up some good poit. muchos tcos</p>
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		<title>By: diego</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[diego]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, everybdy. It seems that everybody here r thinking on migrating to Google Mail (Gmail)... but do u how know Goog works. Obviously NO.
I give u an advice: &quot;migrate to any other mail provider, but goog&quot;.
I&#039;m not criticizing the service provided from goog (pretty good), but be carefull about data, coockies which expire in 10 years, the relationship with federal agencys, and I can be writing about it for many hours!!!.
So... be free and do what you want, it&#039;s your matter. But if u have the chance, try anyone else(free or not), but goog... pleaseee u must to be joking,u &#039;r on a Mac.

Best wishies for everyOneOutThere(be_good:Mind;be_free:Mind;be_strong:BrainStructure);

Diego]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, everybdy. It seems that everybody here r thinking on migrating to Google Mail (Gmail)&#8230; but do u how know Goog works. Obviously NO.<br />
I give u an advice: &#8220;migrate to any other mail provider, but goog&#8221;.<br />
I&#8217;m not criticizing the service provided from goog (pretty good), but be carefull about data, coockies which expire in 10 years, the relationship with federal agencys, and I can be writing about it for many hours!!!.<br />
So&#8230; be free and do what you want, it&#8217;s your matter. But if u have the chance, try anyone else(free or not), but goog&#8230; pleaseee u must to be joking,u &#8216;r on a Mac.</p>
<p>Best wishies for everyOneOutThere(be_good:Mind;be_free:Mind;be_strong:BrainStructure);</p>
<p>Diego</p>
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