Comments on: Why I have not installed Leopard (Though I own it)

By: Jesus

Jesus — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:24:42 +0000

Can I have your copy of Leopard then?

By: Waiting for Leopard to change its spots/dots - The Apple Blog

Waiting for Leopard to change its spots/dots - The Apple Blog — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:54:33 +0000

[...] I rely heavily on my MacBook Pro Core2 Duo (4GB/160GB) for both work and personal computing. My work VM (Vista+Office 2007) has to be 100% functional and the various bits of software and hardware that support my personal mobility and productivity all need to function with a minimum of interruption. During the week leading up until the official release, I kept reading vendor reports that they had to wait to test their wares on the final release version and then kept seeing reports during the first week after from some of my favourite tools that they were just adding compatibility. Not to mention Brandon’s post. [...]

By: Brandon Eley

Brandon Eley — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:22:50 +0000

@TDI
Core Animation is just one major back-end update to Leopard, which is pretty amazing. It lets developers make stunning apps, and is behind a lot of things already in Leopard, like the new Preview and Finder QuickView. The demonstration is amazing.

There are a lot of other improvements under the hood, especially for developers. The new developer tools are cool and I’m just now starting to play with them:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/developer/

I finally got Leopard installed — I was able to get a full backup using SuperDuper so I was less heistant about blowing up my drive (since I could just do a restore). I did an Archive and Install and it worked well.

By: John Davis

John Davis — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:43:01 +0000

The first time I tried to install 10.5, I got an error message, so I ran Diskwarrior and Applejack. Thereafter the install ran perfectly smoothly. I didn’t have APE installed, but it looked like it wouldn’t have installed even on my brand new iMac, without the clean up.

John Davis

By: bv

bv — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:50:52 +0000

leopard kicks so much ass. i can’t imagine not running after having it since it came out.
lovin it!
peace.
bv.

By: tdi

tdi — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:25:13 +0000

@Brandon:
yes you are right, but time machine wasin server 2003 too. I totally agree that OSX i just too good to change it more, but the fuss was too big for such small visible changes. Do you guys have some link of changes in internals? Im not talking about unix userland updates, but some core of OSX.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:41:22 +0000

Randy,

That was my first thought too. Maybe I overlooked it, but I tried looking for an uninstall option in the LCC 2.3.1 installer but couldn’t find it. Usually it’s under the “Installation Options” section, but not with this installer.

By: Randy Stewart

Randy Stewart — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:57:40 +0000

It seems that the Installer for LCC is also an uninstaller, but I don’t have my copy handy. Have you tried running the installer again?

Cheers,
Randy

By: Aaron

Aaron — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:02:57 +0000

You’re right about the lack of an uninstaller being included with LCC 2.3.1. Fortunately, I still had the DMG from LCC 2.2.2 on my iMac and it does include an uninstaller. If you’d like me to send you a copy, drop me an email.

By: Matt Radel

Matt Radel — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:37:28 +0000

I've got a buddy at work that had the upgrade nuke his MBP. Needless to say, I'm extremely hesitant to do it with mine.

By: Brandon Eley

Brandon Eley — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:50:43 +0000

@tdi
There are a ton of new features in Leopard, but you have to remember that Apple releases a new version of Mac OS X every 12-18 months. It took Microsoft more than 5 years to release Vista, which simply updated XP to have many of the features that have been in Mac OS X Tiger (and earlier versions) for a long time. There wasn’t any need to overhaul the UI or look and feel of the MAC OS X system – it is simple and elegant and I think the visual changes made it even more so (with the exception of the translucent menu bar). The eye candy on Vista is a processor hog – who runs an operating system to see it’s flashy graphics? An OS is a file manager and for running software.

@everyone
Thanks for the suggestions. I got the new version of Logitech Control Center software installed finally.

By: Ken

Ken — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:11:17 +0000

The Logitech software caused me nothing but problems under Tiger when I got the mouse (Logitech VX Revolution). I found that SteerMouse works much better than the Logitech software and works with Leopard as well. Granted you need to pay $20 (after the trial) for it, but it is well worth it in my opinion. In addition to working correctly it will also allow you to configure the mouse per application if you wish.

By: Tom von Schwerdtner

Tom von Schwerdtner — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:44:12 +0000

I initially did an upgrade install, and then later went back and used a backup to do a clean install + migration (for no good reason except I thought the underlying system might be a little cleaner that way).

I did both without any problems with Ape 2.0.3 installed, and with the Logitech Control Center installed.

Later, feeling a little down on Ape I decided to remove it along with LCC. I am now using my MX Revolution with SteerMouse and have not had any problems.

In short, I don’t think LCC and Ape are good enough reasons to stick with Tiger.

Good luck!

By: tdi

tdi — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:05:58 +0000

Let me share my leopard experience with you:
I bought Leopard just for and upgrade, I’m not some apple maniac that looses hair when Steve announces new things.
My first impression was bad because installer did not see my hard drive. I rrun the disk druid and only after that and selecting Back, disk reappeared.
Installation/upgrade went smooth, all applications run without problems, I also did not loose any data.
I stared to browse new features in leopard and hey ! this is sad. There are no new things besides the one they shout about for past year. Ok new dock, stacks, mail and what else? Nothing. This should be called 10.4.11 not 10.5. I like new system and osx generally but switch from XP to Vista is like buying Mercedes after having Hyundai, installing Leopard does not give that feeling at all.

By: Galley

Galley — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:03:00 +0000

I experienced the “blue screen of sadness”, but I have a Logitech Harmony remote, not a mouse. Does that software install APE as well?

By: marc

marc — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:37:41 +0000

brandon – try to uncheck the “automatic update” checkbox that is at the bottom of the installer window. then it should work.