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		<title>By: Newton Poetry &#8212; Apple TV as odd-product out</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Newton Poetry &#8212; Apple TV as odd-product out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the iPad. The Apple TV is surely stuck in some development limbo. One could even argue that the fourth-leg of the Apple stool is now the iPad instead of the Apple [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the iPad. The Apple TV is surely stuck in some development limbo. One could even argue that the fourth-leg of the Apple stool is now the iPad instead of the Apple [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Apple TV 3.0 Will Support iTunes LP and Extras, Needs More Still</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple TV 3.0 Will Support iTunes LP and Extras, Needs More Still]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Mac mini, the Apple TV seems to be lagging behind other Apple offerings in terms of the tech behind it and its software capabilities. Many new TVs coming to market now [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Mac mini, the Apple TV seems to be lagging behind other Apple offerings in terms of the tech behind it and its software capabilities. Many new TVs coming to market now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pdferguson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pdferguson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely agree with the comments about the Apple TV. Not only haven&#039;t new features been forthcoming, several bugs (such as the &quot;white screen of death&quot;, which can only be resolved by rebooting) haven&#039;t been fixed for nearly a year.

I would also suggest that iTunes could use some work. It continues to exhibit more than its share of annoying UI flaws (my personal peeve here is that every time you delete a podcast, it asks you whether you want to move it to the trash, and you have to click the confirm button, which isn&#039;t the default. Every... Friggin... Time...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree with the comments about the Apple TV. Not only haven&#8217;t new features been forthcoming, several bugs (such as the &#8220;white screen of death&#8221;, which can only be resolved by rebooting) haven&#8217;t been fixed for nearly a year.</p>
<p>I would also suggest that iTunes could use some work. It continues to exhibit more than its share of annoying UI flaws (my personal peeve here is that every time you delete a podcast, it asks you whether you want to move it to the trash, and you have to click the confirm button, which isn&#8217;t the default. Every&#8230; Friggin&#8230; Time&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mike - Been through all the Keychain trouble shooting in those threads.  My point with Apple discussion boards is that Mail is not listed under Applications or anywhere on the main page.  But as you said - buried in sub-areas of the OS discussions ... and it&#039;s buried for a reason.

Can this be done - use 1Password for POP connections and get rid of Keychain?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike &#8211; Been through all the Keychain trouble shooting in those threads.  My point with Apple discussion boards is that Mail is not listed under Applications or anywhere on the main page.  But as you said &#8211; buried in sub-areas of the OS discussions &#8230; and it&#8217;s buried for a reason.</p>
<p>Can this be done &#8211; use 1Password for POP connections and get rid of Keychain?</p>
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		<title>By: Kennon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kennon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you tried other alternatives like Thunderbird, or Postbox? These are great mail clients. I&#039;d give &#039;em a shot. Either that, or switch to IMAP, if that&#039;s an option. Or just continually call Apple Support. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried other alternatives like Thunderbird, or Postbox? These are great mail clients. I&#8217;d give &#8216;em a shot. Either that, or switch to IMAP, if that&#8217;s an option. Or just continually call Apple Support. :)</p>
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		<title>By: heber</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[heber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the Mighty Mouse... needs a lot of love.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Mighty Mouse&#8230; needs a lot of love.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David,
The Apple discussion boards do areas dedicated to Mail, they&#039;re just sub-areas of the OS discussions. Here&#039;s a link to the discussion area for Leopard Mail:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1223&amp;start=0
And here&#039;s a thread that may address your issue (which does sound like it may be a Keychain problem):
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9808635&amp;#9808635
Or maybe here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9475004&amp;#9475004

Good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
The Apple discussion boards do areas dedicated to Mail, they&#8217;re just sub-areas of the OS discussions. Here&#8217;s a link to the discussion area for Leopard Mail:<br />
<a href="http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1223&#038;start=0" rel="nofollow">http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1223&#038;start=0</a><br />
And here&#8217;s a thread that may address your issue (which does sound like it may be a Keychain problem):<br />
<a href="http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9808635&#038;#9808635" rel="nofollow">http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9808635&#038;#9808635</a><br />
Or maybe here:<br />
<a href="http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9475004&#038;#9475004" rel="nofollow">http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9475004&#038;#9475004</a></p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im not an apple user yet (i have an iphone at home waiting for me when i get back from holidays and my next laptop will be apple too)... would you not just use entourage?  or is that a silly question?

the same thing use to happen to me with outlook - but they fixed that bug about 5 years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not an apple user yet (i have an iphone at home waiting for me when i get back from holidays and my next laptop will be apple too)&#8230; would you not just use entourage?  or is that a silly question?</p>
<p>the same thing use to happen to me with outlook &#8211; but they fixed that bug about 5 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eideard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always chuckle when my buds on Crank Geeks downrate the AppleTV as only a hobby.  Since that&#039;s how our family watches the program every week on the HDTV in the living room.

We still use the original 40gb model - since I don&#039;t store anything on it except new content which is to be watched, soon.  Anything else is stored on my iMac where iTunes downloads automatically.

Then, I delete after watching - as I do with DVR content from DirecTV.  A worthwhile old habit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always chuckle when my buds on Crank Geeks downrate the AppleTV as only a hobby.  Since that&#8217;s how our family watches the program every week on the HDTV in the living room.</p>
<p>We still use the original 40gb model &#8211; since I don&#8217;t store anything on it except new content which is to be watched, soon.  Anything else is stored on my iMac where iTunes downloads automatically.</p>
<p>Then, I delete after watching &#8211; as I do with DVR content from DirecTV.  A worthwhile old habit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cookeecut</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cookeecut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s apparent that Apple has thrown all its muscle behind the iPhone and its OS. 

However, I get the sense that Apple has expanded a lot. Maybe quite so, that is now at the point they need to hire more people. One cannot help but get the feeling they are stretched thin. 

And lest we forget, the iPhone was a HUGE effort. It&#039;s not like any other product. They had to create an optimised version of OS X and a complete set of APIs. They did this beautifully (an an iPhone developer I&#039;m stunned by their work). And it is no small feat.

So, it is understandable that they have neglected other parts of their hard/soft product lines.

Apple is Apple. They work slowly, they work meticulously and in the end they always come through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s apparent that Apple has thrown all its muscle behind the iPhone and its OS. </p>
<p>However, I get the sense that Apple has expanded a lot. Maybe quite so, that is now at the point they need to hire more people. One cannot help but get the feeling they are stretched thin. </p>
<p>And lest we forget, the iPhone was a HUGE effort. It&#8217;s not like any other product. They had to create an optimised version of OS X and a complete set of APIs. They did this beautifully (an an iPhone developer I&#8217;m stunned by their work). And it is no small feat.</p>
<p>So, it is understandable that they have neglected other parts of their hard/soft product lines.</p>
<p>Apple is Apple. They work slowly, they work meticulously and in the end they always come through.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad - but Snow Leopard being Intel-only has been rumored for a long time and actually known for months. You should have checked your facts before buying a machine with an old architecture. Still, don&#039;t be too upset - a G5 Quad-Core with Leopard will rock and I hope it will last you for a few years. &quot;Stuck with Leopard&quot; is an interesting phrase, I have many clients still using 10.4 Tiger and doing their work really well. An upgrade to Leopard for them would be heaven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad &#8211; but Snow Leopard being Intel-only has been rumored for a long time and actually known for months. You should have checked your facts before buying a machine with an old architecture. Still, don&#8217;t be too upset &#8211; a G5 Quad-Core with Leopard will rock and I hope it will last you for a few years. &#8220;Stuck with Leopard&#8221; is an interesting phrase, I have many clients still using 10.4 Tiger and doing their work really well. An upgrade to Leopard for them would be heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kelly - Thanks for chiming in.  Yes I&#039;ve tried canceling the pop-up dialog - restarting ect.  Most of the time that doesn&#039;t work so I go straight to canceling the account.

Email is central to our online lives and used daily.  With that in mind, I find this beyond belief:

If you go to discussions.apple.com/index.jspa ... all Apple products are listed for discussion except Mail.  It&#039;s as if they have abandoned the app.  More likely - they don&#039;t want a discussion thread.  When you have an app that&#039;s worse than a Wincrap app - they don&#039;t want it talked about.  Yet, this problem has prevailed for YEARS with no fix. 

Matt - Please let us know what you did.  I&#039;ve &quot;fixed it&quot; too - but it ALWAYS returns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly &#8211; Thanks for chiming in.  Yes I&#8217;ve tried canceling the pop-up dialog &#8211; restarting ect.  Most of the time that doesn&#8217;t work so I go straight to canceling the account.</p>
<p>Email is central to our online lives and used daily.  With that in mind, I find this beyond belief:</p>
<p>If you go to discussions.apple.com/index.jspa &#8230; all Apple products are listed for discussion except Mail.  It&#8217;s as if they have abandoned the app.  More likely &#8211; they don&#8217;t want a discussion thread.  When you have an app that&#8217;s worse than a Wincrap app &#8211; they don&#8217;t want it talked about.  Yet, this problem has prevailed for YEARS with no fix. </p>
<p>Matt &#8211; Please let us know what you did.  I&#8217;ve &#8220;fixed it&#8221; too &#8211; but it ALWAYS returns.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352218</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You suggest that resources are being diverted to the iTablet in a general cross-company way, but here is my theory: they are being diverted to the iTablet in a product-specific way.  The iTablet will run a full version of Snow Leopard and all the major Apple Apps will be tweaked and optimized for multi-touch finger control.  Apple is in the midst of a total paradigm shift from traditional mousing and keyboard control to a world where much more is done through direct multi-touch interactions.  All the apps have to have their GUIs totally re-thought, thus existing versions are not getting a lot of love while that is in process.   Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You suggest that resources are being diverted to the iTablet in a general cross-company way, but here is my theory: they are being diverted to the iTablet in a product-specific way.  The iTablet will run a full version of Snow Leopard and all the major Apple Apps will be tweaked and optimized for multi-touch finger control.  Apple is in the midst of a total paradigm shift from traditional mousing and keyboard control to a world where much more is done through direct multi-touch interactions.  All the apps have to have their GUIs totally re-thought, thus existing versions are not getting a lot of love while that is in process.   Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Rodriguez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a professional photographer who depends on Aperture every day the lack of updates and innovation to the application is disappointing. I have been using Aperture since version 1 and it just seems Adobe is surpassing Aperture with Lightroom every day. Frankly, Apple should just use its stock pile of cash and buy Adobe.

I am also an Apple TV owner and love it but hate the lack of updates! The 160 gb drive is useless in this world today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a professional photographer who depends on Aperture every day the lack of updates and innovation to the application is disappointing. I have been using Aperture since version 1 and it just seems Adobe is surpassing Aperture with Lightroom every day. Frankly, Apple should just use its stock pile of cash and buy Adobe.</p>
<p>I am also an Apple TV owner and love it but hate the lack of updates! The 160 gb drive is useless in this world today.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a 24&#039;&#039; display for professionals. God forbid they make the 30&#039;&#039; in the glare variety when they update it!

Apple TV makes no sense. Should be really easy to make viable.

Displays make no sense. These are supposed to be targeted toward professionals, not entertainment markets.

I think the time has been spent on the iPhone hardware and software and moving into new markets around the world. That&#039;s been a huge and entirely new business for the company.

But with all their billions in the bank and intentionally limited product line, there is no excuse really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a 24&#8221; display for professionals. God forbid they make the 30&#8221; in the glare variety when they update it!</p>
<p>Apple TV makes no sense. Should be really easy to make viable.</p>
<p>Displays make no sense. These are supposed to be targeted toward professionals, not entertainment markets.</p>
<p>I think the time has been spent on the iPhone hardware and software and moving into new markets around the world. That&#8217;s been a huge and entirely new business for the company.</p>
<p>But with all their billions in the bank and intentionally limited product line, there is no excuse really.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/wheres-the-love-apples-neglected-products/#comment-352215</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually fixed this problem. I will check my settings on my MacBook when I get home and try to remember what I did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually fixed this problem. I will check my settings on my MacBook when I get home and try to remember what I did.</p>
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