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		<title>By: Dixy-uh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308173</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PQ DVD to iPod Video Suite version 2.5.03 supports 640x480 H.264 and MPEG4. My PC is a P-D 2.8Ghz, 2.5G dual channel RAM, 3TB HD, basically, all of my movies have been stored in the HD for a home theater experience. With the 640x480 H.264, will re-convert all the videos in a few weeks.

Because the H.264 encoding takes more time than the MPEG4 but requires less space. All of my previous mp4 files have been deleted and are gonna be replaced by these 640x480 H.264 videos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PQ DVD to iPod Video Suite version 2.5.03 supports 640&#215;480 H.264 and MPEG4. My PC is a P-D 2.8Ghz, 2.5G dual channel RAM, 3TB HD, basically, all of my movies have been stored in the HD for a home theater experience. With the 640&#215;480 H.264, will re-convert all the videos in a few weeks.</p>
<p>Because the H.264 encoding takes more time than the MPEG4 but requires less space. All of my previous mp4 files have been deleted and are gonna be replaced by these 640&#215;480 H.264 videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Potter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gareth Potter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a more conciliatory note, you make a good point about the high CPU usage of H.264 decoding, something which is not, of course, unexpected - at the outset, new video codecs always seem to have rather heavy computing requirements. I will add that it is unlikely to have anything to do with DRM.

In any case, all of this means that it is extremely impressive that the iPod - small as it is - can play this kind of video - and at 30fps too. It is, though, expected that the battery life is (comparatively) poor, because it requires so much horsepower to decode the files.

This is, of course, one of the reasons that the videos available through the iTMS are only 320x240 - much more (especially the HD-quality video for which you yearn) would require, say, a VCR-sized box to decode. Whilst not heavy, VCR-sized boxes are not, I think, what people have in mind vis-à-vis portability. You could fit a really big screen in one though.

And as others have noted, the other issue is download size. If you want 1080i, fine, but be prepared to wait a day for that episode of Lost to download, and to suitably compensate Apple for the bandwidth used in supplying it to you. For, say, a 5Gb download, that&#039;s quite a bit of money.

Finally, and perhaps most obviously, what did you expect for $1.99?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more conciliatory note, you make a good point about the high CPU usage of H.264 decoding, something which is not, of course, unexpected &#8211; at the outset, new video codecs always seem to have rather heavy computing requirements. I will add that it is unlikely to have anything to do with DRM.</p>
<p>In any case, all of this means that it is extremely impressive that the iPod &#8211; small as it is &#8211; can play this kind of video &#8211; and at 30fps too. It is, though, expected that the battery life is (comparatively) poor, because it requires so much horsepower to decode the files.</p>
<p>This is, of course, one of the reasons that the videos available through the iTMS are only 320&#215;240 &#8211; much more (especially the HD-quality video for which you yearn) would require, say, a VCR-sized box to decode. Whilst not heavy, VCR-sized boxes are not, I think, what people have in mind vis-à-vis portability. You could fit a really big screen in one though.</p>
<p>And as others have noted, the other issue is download size. If you want 1080i, fine, but be prepared to wait a day for that episode of Lost to download, and to suitably compensate Apple for the bandwidth used in supplying it to you. For, say, a 5Gb download, that&#8217;s quite a bit of money.</p>
<p>Finally, and perhaps most obviously, what did you expect for $1.99?</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Potter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gareth Potter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve gotta agree with John here, and he&#039;s only couching what Dogger said in nicer language. If you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about, better not to post. And if you do, don&#039;t go getting all irate when people take you to task for, well, posting a load of bollocks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotta agree with John here, and he&#8217;s only couching what Dogger said in nicer language. If you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about, better not to post. And if you do, don&#8217;t go getting all irate when people take you to task for, well, posting a load of bollocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is one of perceived value. Desparate Housewives, Season 1 costs $38 on DVD on Amazon.  It&#039;s enhanced for widescreen which means it is encoded at 720x480 (some of which may not be used due to matting). The same content available from the Apple Music store is $35 for a 320x240 cropped version. Unless you desparately, need to watch the show right now, it&#039;s a much, much better deal to just order the DVDs.
If you wanted, there are ways to rip said DVDs into a format playable on the iPod.
Even better, you could record the magnificent 1920x1080 interlaced MPEG-2 widescreen broadcast every Sunday going forward, it&#039;ll take up 10GBs of space which at today&#039;s hard drive prices is around $2.50 of space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is one of perceived value. Desparate Housewives, Season 1 costs $38 on DVD on Amazon.  It&#8217;s enhanced for widescreen which means it is encoded at 720&#215;480 (some of which may not be used due to matting). The same content available from the Apple Music store is $35 for a 320&#215;240 cropped version. Unless you desparately, need to watch the show right now, it&#8217;s a much, much better deal to just order the DVDs.<br />
If you wanted, there are ways to rip said DVDs into a format playable on the iPod.<br />
Even better, you could record the magnificent 1920&#215;1080 interlaced MPEG-2 widescreen broadcast every Sunday going forward, it&#8217;ll take up 10GBs of space which at today&#8217;s hard drive prices is around $2.50 of space.</p>
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		<title>By: Spammed-a-lot</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spammed-a-lot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My (quick)take: H.264 loads the author&#039;s 1ghz G4 and nukes my 500mhz G4. Yet it plays on the iPod Video. Wow. That impresses the heck out of me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My (quick)take: H.264 loads the author&#8217;s 1ghz G4 and nukes my 500mhz G4. Yet it plays on the iPod Video. Wow. That impresses the heck out of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick:

The high CPU usage has almost certainly nothing to do with DRM. H.264 is simply a very CPU-intensive codec; for example, have you tried watching any of Apple&#039;s HD trailers on that 1gHz machine? I&#039;d wager they won&#039;t even run smoothly at all, certainly not at the highest resolutions.

That&#039;s another reason for the low resolutions, by the way: there&#039;s no way the iPod could handle much more than 320x240, and even as it is the battery life while doing so is pretty atrocious. I do agree that Apple should provide higher-resolution video downloads for those who want them, but I have to assume that&#039;s coming soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick:</p>
<p>The high CPU usage has almost certainly nothing to do with DRM. H.264 is simply a very CPU-intensive codec; for example, have you tried watching any of Apple&#8217;s HD trailers on that 1gHz machine? I&#8217;d wager they won&#8217;t even run smoothly at all, certainly not at the highest resolutions.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s another reason for the low resolutions, by the way: there&#8217;s no way the iPod could handle much more than 320&#215;240, and even as it is the battery life while doing so is pretty atrocious. I do agree that Apple should provide higher-resolution video downloads for those who want them, but I have to assume that&#8217;s coming soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Santilli</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Santilli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 02:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Daniel - thanks for the input.

1 - I&#039;m not disputing that it looks good at it&#039;s native res.  My complaint is that I don&#039;t intend to have a video iPod (at least not in the near future) but may wish to view these on my powerbook.  Watching a 320x240 tv show on my 17&quot; powerbook isn&#039;t great fun.  That was my beef.
I think it&#039;d be nice if the video section of the music store were aimed at everyone, not just video ipod owners.  But I understand there are limitations, and whatnot.  As Mort Blort said - Myabe offering a higher res for $1 more may be a viable option...

2 - you&#039;re right.  Again, I was thinking of all of us who may not want to watch purchased videos on an iPod, but on a computer.

3 - I guess that could be true - but if you&#039;re buying it, and a chunk goes to Disney anyway, give the people what they want/pay for, right?

I&#039;m sure many hurdles remain, and a lot of growing is still to happen.  It&#039;ll be interesting to watch this next step in media distrib ution evolve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Daniel &#8211; thanks for the input.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; I&#8217;m not disputing that it looks good at it&#8217;s native res.  My complaint is that I don&#8217;t intend to have a video iPod (at least not in the near future) but may wish to view these on my powerbook.  Watching a 320&#215;240 tv show on my 17&#8243; powerbook isn&#8217;t great fun.  That was my beef.<br />
I think it&#8217;d be nice if the video section of the music store were aimed at everyone, not just video ipod owners.  But I understand there are limitations, and whatnot.  As Mort Blort said &#8211; Myabe offering a higher res for $1 more may be a viable option&#8230;</p>
<p>2 &#8211; you&#8217;re right.  Again, I was thinking of all of us who may not want to watch purchased videos on an iPod, but on a computer.</p>
<p>3 &#8211; I guess that could be true &#8211; but if you&#8217;re buying it, and a chunk goes to Disney anyway, give the people what they want/pay for, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure many hurdles remain, and a lot of growing is still to happen.  It&#8217;ll be interesting to watch this next step in media distrib ution evolve.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Santilli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Santilli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the Valuable Comment John.  The internet is better for it....

I guess I missed where I indicated that I felt I was being picked on.  I was wrong.  I accepted that, and am appreciative of those who offered USEFUL comments with information to correct my incorrect statements.

I suppose I should retitle and re-edit the story to reflect the true drive behind it - &lt;strong&gt;I was dissapointed in the result when I tried it out for myself.  It did not live up to the expectations I had.&lt;/strong&gt;  I&#039;ve had some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/05/11/h264-is-pretty-cool/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;excellent&lt;/a&gt; experiences with H.264 compressed video, and have witnessed &lt;a href=&quot;v&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some others&lt;/a&gt;.  This was clearly not one of those.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the Valuable Comment John.  The internet is better for it&#8230;.</p>
<p>I guess I missed where I indicated that I felt I was being picked on.  I was wrong.  I accepted that, and am appreciative of those who offered USEFUL comments with information to correct my incorrect statements.</p>
<p>I suppose I should retitle and re-edit the story to reflect the true drive behind it &#8211; <strong>I was dissapointed in the result when I tried it out for myself.  It did not live up to the expectations I had.</strong>  I&#8217;ve had some <a href="http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/05/11/h264-is-pretty-cool/" rel="nofollow">excellent</a> experiences with H.264 compressed video, and have witnessed <a href="v" rel="nofollow">some others</a>.  This was clearly not one of those.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Sofer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/what-about-h264/#comment-308153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Sofer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick: A few thoughts...
1) I played around with the &quot;Export to iPod&quot; function in the new QT pro, and it does really look great at 320x240 (I&#039;m a web guy and my video is all about getting it to look good and still download off the web.) Those m4p files won&#039;t play on the web though...
2) HD on a pocket device is not going to happen anytime soon. Have you tried those HD samples apple has on their web site? My 1.5g Powerbook can barely play the 480p versions without stuttering, the system requirements for the 1080p versions is a &lt;b&gt;DUAL&lt;/b&gt; G5.
3) I&#039;m sure that limiting the size to 320x240 was one key factor to getting Disney onboard with the content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick: A few thoughts&#8230;<br />
1) I played around with the &#8220;Export to iPod&#8221; function in the new QT pro, and it does really look great at 320&#215;240 (I&#8217;m a web guy and my video is all about getting it to look good and still download off the web.) Those m4p files won&#8217;t play on the web though&#8230;<br />
2) HD on a pocket device is not going to happen anytime soon. Have you tried those HD samples apple has on their web site? My 1.5g Powerbook can barely play the 480p versions without stuttering, the system requirements for the 1080p versions is a <b>DUAL</b> G5.<br />
3) I&#8217;m sure that limiting the size to 320&#215;240 was one key factor to getting Disney onboard with the content.</p>
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