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		<title>By: Why no Mac app store? &#171; mike watch</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why no Mac app store? &#171; mike watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This is not a new idea and many have written about it. Dan Knight made a good case for it on Low End Mac. Chris Ryan wrote a good piece on theAppleBlog. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Apple News &#187; Interview: Steve Gehrman of Path Finder/CocoaTech</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple News &#187; Interview: Steve Gehrman of Path Finder/CocoaTech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Apple has revolutionized mobile application development with the App Store. I read suggestions here and there on the blogosphere that Apple should create a Mac App Store, utilizing the same model. Do you think [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Interview: Steve Gehrman of Path Finder/CocoaTech</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Interview: Steve Gehrman of Path Finder/CocoaTech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Apple has revolutionized mobile application development with the App Store. I read suggestions here and there on the blogosphere that Apple should create a Mac App Store, utilizing the same model. Do you think [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jewel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jewel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s nice to know that there are many additional benefits that we can see for Mac however, it&#039;s just not advisable to download it all because you need to pay a price for every application that you need to download.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to know that there are many additional benefits that we can see for Mac however, it&#8217;s just not advisable to download it all because you need to pay a price for every application that you need to download.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the idea, however I&#039;d hate to see a &#039;race to the bottom&#039; on price, with quality applications lost in a crowd of $0.99 junk. This seems to be what&#039;s been happening on the App Store and it would be a shame if it happened to OS X applications as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea, however I&#8217;d hate to see a &#8216;race to the bottom&#8217; on price, with quality applications lost in a crowd of $0.99 junk. This seems to be what&#8217;s been happening on the App Store and it would be a shame if it happened to OS X applications as well.</p>
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		<title>By: JMFR</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JMFR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Valve Corporation has implemented a system for downloading Video Games for PC.  It is called Steam.  I think it is a great way to Purchase new software.  I think Apple could take this model and make it work for Mac software.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valve Corporation has implemented a system for downloading Video Games for PC.  It is called Steam.  I think it is a great way to Purchase new software.  I think Apple could take this model and make it work for Mac software.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Oporto</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ernie Oporto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This would really not work unless Apple tightened installation security such that one could only install from their store.  And we really don&#039;t need that.

I only see this being useful as a software directory, of which there are already many out there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would really not work unless Apple tightened installation security such that one could only install from their store.  And we really don&#8217;t need that.</p>
<p>I only see this being useful as a software directory, of which there are already many out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kvasnička jr.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Kvasnička jr.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chad: &quot;Sparkle works for apps you use frequently, not for others.&quot; -- well, yeah, that&#039;s the point of it. Why should I want to download updates for apps I&#039;m not using?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chad: &#8220;Sparkle works for apps you use frequently, not for others.&#8221; &#8212; well, yeah, that&#8217;s the point of it. Why should I want to download updates for apps I&#8217;m not using?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kvasnička jr.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Kvasnička jr.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the idea -- but only if it really wasn&#039;t the only way. And if it didn&#039;t use iTunes. Even now iTunes is a whale... putting another feature in it, this time completely unrelated to the other things it does (well, yeah, it&#039;s an App Store like the one for the iPhone, but that&#039;s all), would be sad IMHO.

This thing should _definetly_ have it&#039;s own app. Maybe merged with the Software Update.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea &#8212; but only if it really wasn&#8217;t the only way. And if it didn&#8217;t use iTunes. Even now iTunes is a whale&#8230; putting another feature in it, this time completely unrelated to the other things it does (well, yeah, it&#8217;s an App Store like the one for the iPhone, but that&#8217;s all), would be sad IMHO.</p>
<p>This thing should _definetly_ have it&#8217;s own app. Maybe merged with the Software Update.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Ryan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Chris
I was with you when I purchased CS4 (desiring a retail box), however since it had just come out, it was going to be 2-3 weeks lead time to ship it to me (perhaps because it was the educational version). I tried to convert this to a download option, but Adobe wasn&#039;t able to offer much help. I suppose the argument is similar to those who prefer standard DVDs over digital downloads, yet more and more people are, out of convenience, going for digital downloads (even though DVDs contain special features, etc. etc.). The whole dynamic of how we do business and what we look for is changing. With Apple offering so many getting started videos on their website, if Adobe were to do the same (and to an extent, they do with Adobe TV), it&#039;s great to have those resources there at my fingertips, and not cluttering up my office shelves. But that&#039;s just personal preference. :-)

The beauty of this from a developers standpoint is it could easily push more impulse buying. Of course, Apple would need to work out how to offer demos or other information (though that could simply be a link to a .dmg file hosted at the developer&#039;s site) but I think there&#039;s a lot of exposure for developers in a situation like this. There are so many great apps out there, like Coda and Pixelmator, but we don&#039;t hear about them unless it&#039;s word of mouth or they make some &quot;Top 10&quot; list somewhere, or they&#039;re apart of a MacHeist bundle. 

Ultimately, I think we&#039;ll see Apple exploring this path. They&#039;re already laying the groundwork. 

@NickSavage I don&#039;t think Apple would tell you if an app isn&#039;t on their App Store, you wouldn&#039;t be able to install it. Just like you can put any music you own into iTunes, whether you purchased it from iTunes or not. I think there is a lot more benefit to customers by offering them a central place to see the best of what&#039;s available.

@DanielGrace  Sorry about not mentioning the billing aspect. Completely slipped my mind, but another excellent point. Apple has built so much simplicity into the purchase process of iTunes and they handle returns/redownloads when things get messed up. This is a great boon for developers who want to go this route and I completely agree with you here.

@tej116 I also agree with your thoughts on Apple &quot;approving&quot; the apps for inclusion in the App Store. It does put more responsibility on Apple&#039;s part, but I actually don&#039;t think that&#039;s something they&#039;d shy away from. The developer community is already so &quot;in love&quot; with Apple and make such great quality apps anyway. Developers already follow Apple&#039;s human interface guidelines to create &quot;lickable&quot; apps that are functionally similar, despite who develops them. (How many apps do you use that has an &quot;Inspector&quot;?) Ultimately, a solution such is this would provide a better experience for customers and that&#039;s one of Apple&#039;s core competencies anyway.

I&#039;m glad you guys are having fun with this discussion! Thanks for the feedback and follow up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris<br />
I was with you when I purchased CS4 (desiring a retail box), however since it had just come out, it was going to be 2-3 weeks lead time to ship it to me (perhaps because it was the educational version). I tried to convert this to a download option, but Adobe wasn&#8217;t able to offer much help. I suppose the argument is similar to those who prefer standard DVDs over digital downloads, yet more and more people are, out of convenience, going for digital downloads (even though DVDs contain special features, etc. etc.). The whole dynamic of how we do business and what we look for is changing. With Apple offering so many getting started videos on their website, if Adobe were to do the same (and to an extent, they do with Adobe TV), it&#8217;s great to have those resources there at my fingertips, and not cluttering up my office shelves. But that&#8217;s just personal preference. :-)</p>
<p>The beauty of this from a developers standpoint is it could easily push more impulse buying. Of course, Apple would need to work out how to offer demos or other information (though that could simply be a link to a .dmg file hosted at the developer&#8217;s site) but I think there&#8217;s a lot of exposure for developers in a situation like this. There are so many great apps out there, like Coda and Pixelmator, but we don&#8217;t hear about them unless it&#8217;s word of mouth or they make some &#8220;Top 10&#8243; list somewhere, or they&#8217;re apart of a MacHeist bundle. </p>
<p>Ultimately, I think we&#8217;ll see Apple exploring this path. They&#8217;re already laying the groundwork. </p>
<p>@NickSavage I don&#8217;t think Apple would tell you if an app isn&#8217;t on their App Store, you wouldn&#8217;t be able to install it. Just like you can put any music you own into iTunes, whether you purchased it from iTunes or not. I think there is a lot more benefit to customers by offering them a central place to see the best of what&#8217;s available.</p>
<p>@DanielGrace  Sorry about not mentioning the billing aspect. Completely slipped my mind, but another excellent point. Apple has built so much simplicity into the purchase process of iTunes and they handle returns/redownloads when things get messed up. This is a great boon for developers who want to go this route and I completely agree with you here.</p>
<p>@tej116 I also agree with your thoughts on Apple &#8220;approving&#8221; the apps for inclusion in the App Store. It does put more responsibility on Apple&#8217;s part, but I actually don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s something they&#8217;d shy away from. The developer community is already so &#8220;in love&#8221; with Apple and make such great quality apps anyway. Developers already follow Apple&#8217;s human interface guidelines to create &#8220;lickable&#8221; apps that are functionally similar, despite who develops them. (How many apps do you use that has an &#8220;Inspector&#8221;?) Ultimately, a solution such is this would provide a better experience for customers and that&#8217;s one of Apple&#8217;s core competencies anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you guys are having fun with this discussion! Thanks for the feedback and follow up!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely makes sense and something I&#039;ve wondered since I fell in love with the App Store. I&#039;m so sick of having to track down updates for my apps. Sparkle works for apps you use frequently, not for others. I was chalking this up to a dream, but when I saw the banners I began to wonder...could a Mac app store be in the cards. All that said, being able to install outside of this App Store is vital. But I think it also is a must. Adobe or MS will likely not pull into such a Mac App Store. 

But it would be a gret opportunity for Pixelmator and other smaller devs to find a larger audience, which is really great for Apple, too. If you don&#039;t depend on big third-party players to support you, you are more immune from their whims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely makes sense and something I&#8217;ve wondered since I fell in love with the App Store. I&#8217;m so sick of having to track down updates for my apps. Sparkle works for apps you use frequently, not for others. I was chalking this up to a dream, but when I saw the banners I began to wonder&#8230;could a Mac app store be in the cards. All that said, being able to install outside of this App Store is vital. But I think it also is a must. Adobe or MS will likely not pull into such a Mac App Store. </p>
<p>But it would be a gret opportunity for Pixelmator and other smaller devs to find a larger audience, which is really great for Apple, too. If you don&#8217;t depend on big third-party players to support you, you are more immune from their whims.</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s Apple up to now? &#171; Words of Weston</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What&#8217;s Apple up to now? &#171; Words of Weston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Theories On a Mac App Store  Written on June 05, 2009 by Chris Ryan and 2 people have commented [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it makes good sense... as long as they don&#039;t start restricting people. I&#039;d like to see less packaging out there. Though personally, I prefer to have a tangible box whenever I spend over $200. When I bought CS3 Web Premium, it came with a nice little guide too, which I appreciated because it helped me get started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it makes good sense&#8230; as long as they don&#8217;t start restricting people. I&#8217;d like to see less packaging out there. Though personally, I prefer to have a tangible box whenever I spend over $200. When I bought CS3 Web Premium, it came with a nice little guide too, which I appreciated because it helped me get started.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Grace</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Nick Savage

I agree that it would be horrible if Apple could restrict non-approved apps like they do on the iPhone. That&#039;s a separate issue than their ability to run an App Store, however.

My biggest reason (as a developer) to go through an app store for a computer wasn&#039;t even mentioned in this article -- billing. If Apple handled the billing and gave me lump sums (as they do on the iPhone) I&#039;d be all over it. Well... as long as they can quell the yells about late or flat missing payments...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nick Savage</p>
<p>I agree that it would be horrible if Apple could restrict non-approved apps like they do on the iPhone. That&#8217;s a separate issue than their ability to run an App Store, however.</p>
<p>My biggest reason (as a developer) to go through an app store for a computer wasn&#8217;t even mentioned in this article &#8212; billing. If Apple handled the billing and gave me lump sums (as they do on the iPhone) I&#8217;d be all over it. Well&#8230; as long as they can quell the yells about late or flat missing payments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: teej116</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[teej116]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is quite an interesting idea, and I would like to see this implemented.

As to the point about censorship that Nick Savage brings up, people have jailbroken their iphones.  Why not their macs?  Besides, with each new app to the store is one less app Apple can frown at you for.  Lets say you download an app from the app store for your iphone, and your iphone crashes.  Apple approved it, so they have to fix your phone.  Lets say you jailbroke it, and downloaded an app from the web.  They don&#039;t have to do anything for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite an interesting idea, and I would like to see this implemented.</p>
<p>As to the point about censorship that Nick Savage brings up, people have jailbroken their iphones.  Why not their macs?  Besides, with each new app to the store is one less app Apple can frown at you for.  Lets say you download an app from the app store for your iphone, and your iphone crashes.  Apple approved it, so they have to fix your phone.  Lets say you jailbroke it, and downloaded an app from the web.  They don&#8217;t have to do anything for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Savage</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/theories-on-a-mac-app-store/#comment-346219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Savage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about you, but I wouldn&#039;t want my computer to become like an iPhone. I like the ability to install anything I want to install, whenever I want to. I don&#039;t have to ask Apple&#039;s permission. The ability of Apple to decide what goes onto a computer is such a huge detriment to the freedom that computers allow.

For the same reasons we don&#039;t let our government censor our press, we don&#039;t let our computer companies decide how we use our computers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I wouldn&#8217;t want my computer to become like an iPhone. I like the ability to install anything I want to install, whenever I want to. I don&#8217;t have to ask Apple&#8217;s permission. The ability of Apple to decide what goes onto a computer is such a huge detriment to the freedom that computers allow.</p>
<p>For the same reasons we don&#8217;t let our government censor our press, we don&#8217;t let our computer companies decide how we use our computers.</p>
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