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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple makes very nice development tools, but they hardly bury MS in that area.  Visual Studio is fantastic and very well supported.  The programmers you hear from sound like fanboys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple makes very nice development tools, but they hardly bury MS in that area.  Visual Studio is fantastic and very well supported.  The programmers you hear from sound like fanboys.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Mac user base used to be a lot more vocal about this. I’m not sure why it has gotten so quiet lately.&quot;

Perhaps the Mac user demographic is changing? My perception is that Mac users used to be technical types who chose Macs because they had specific capabilities, and were thus more likely to be more vocal about Mac matters. These days, I&#039;m sure there is still the core of technical Mac users but I imagine more and more Mac users fall in to the non-technical &#039;I just want something that works&#039; category, and so aren&#039;t the sort of people who necessarily express opinions on the state of the software market, as long as they can surf, do email and the basics with music and photos, etc.

All guesswork on my part though. I only &#039;switched&#039; to using a Mac about 18 months ago after years supporting Windows (and even DOS and OS/2!), so I still consider myself new to the Mac scene.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Mac user base used to be a lot more vocal about this. I’m not sure why it has gotten so quiet lately.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps the Mac user demographic is changing? My perception is that Mac users used to be technical types who chose Macs because they had specific capabilities, and were thus more likely to be more vocal about Mac matters. These days, I&#8217;m sure there is still the core of technical Mac users but I imagine more and more Mac users fall in to the non-technical &#8216;I just want something that works&#8217; category, and so aren&#8217;t the sort of people who necessarily express opinions on the state of the software market, as long as they can surf, do email and the basics with music and photos, etc.</p>
<p>All guesswork on my part though. I only &#8216;switched&#8217; to using a Mac about 18 months ago after years supporting Windows (and even DOS and OS/2!), so I still consider myself new to the Mac scene.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mac &#38; Third-Party Software Launches: Nothing Has Changed - Software Management</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Mac &#38; Third-Party Software Launches: Nothing Has Changed - Software Management]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob Smith</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351829</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The Intuit situation is a little odd. You’d think that they would jump at the chance to corner the current Mac market.&lt;/i&gt;

Why should Intuit care what Mac users think? Every Quicken/Quickbooks user I know who has been pissed off by the Mac version of the product has purchased the Windows version instead. Zero loss of revenue for Intuit. Given the near-universal disgust at the Mac version of Intuit&#039;s products, I don&#039;t know why the still bother.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Intuit situation is a little odd. You’d think that they would jump at the chance to corner the current Mac market.</i></p>
<p>Why should Intuit care what Mac users think? Every Quicken/Quickbooks user I know who has been pissed off by the Mac version of the product has purchased the Windows version instead. Zero loss of revenue for Intuit. Given the near-universal disgust at the Mac version of Intuit&#8217;s products, I don&#8217;t know why the still bother.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised that the developers bother at all with these Mac versions. Photoshop Elements? Is it simply a vehicle for potential upgrades to the full-on Photoshop? Why should Adobe try to compete with the iLife package?

Microsoft — not to mention Mac users — might be better served by canning the Mac version of Office. They could offer a special bundle to Mac users containing Office 2010 along with a copy of Windows 7. &quot;Need to run Office on your Mac? No problem — buy our specially priced bundle and install via Boot Camp.&quot; If it were priced at, say, $250US then how many Mac users would even bother with the clunky Office 2008? Apple&#039;s iWork suite is a functional alternative at only 80 bucks.

The Intuit situation is a little odd. You&#039;d think that they would jump at the chance to corner the current Mac market. They certainly haven&#039;t had to compete with offerings from Apple. Toss in a clean and simple iPhone companion — what are they waiting for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that the developers bother at all with these Mac versions. Photoshop Elements? Is it simply a vehicle for potential upgrades to the full-on Photoshop? Why should Adobe try to compete with the iLife package?</p>
<p>Microsoft — not to mention Mac users — might be better served by canning the Mac version of Office. They could offer a special bundle to Mac users containing Office 2010 along with a copy of Windows 7. &#8220;Need to run Office on your Mac? No problem — buy our specially priced bundle and install via Boot Camp.&#8221; If it were priced at, say, $250US then how many Mac users would even bother with the clunky Office 2008? Apple&#8217;s iWork suite is a functional alternative at only 80 bucks.</p>
<p>The Intuit situation is a little odd. You&#8217;d think that they would jump at the chance to corner the current Mac market. They certainly haven&#8217;t had to compete with offerings from Apple. Toss in a clean and simple iPhone companion — what are they waiting for?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reestman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pwb,

For the record, I never said developers were lazy. 

My point is that the &quot;simple resource prioritization&quot; could be addressed if they wanted to; they simply choose not to. Yet all the while they pay lip service to the Mac as if it&#039;s not the neglected platform it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pwb,</p>
<p>For the record, I never said developers were lazy. </p>
<p>My point is that the &#8220;simple resource prioritization&#8221; could be addressed if they wanted to; they simply choose not to. Yet all the while they pay lip service to the Mac as if it&#8217;s not the neglected platform it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You will understand the pain if you are doing design work for a living. Mac version of Adobe apps are like 100 times worse than their Windows counter parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will understand the pain if you are doing design work for a living. Mac version of Adobe apps are like 100 times worse than their Windows counter parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adobe is almost irrelevant these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe is almost irrelevant these days.</p>
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		<title>By: pwb</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pwb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one said it &quot;cannot&quot; be done. It&#039;s just a simple resource prioritization. Newsflash: developing software is not trivial. Developers are not lazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one said it &#8220;cannot&#8221; be done. It&#8217;s just a simple resource prioritization. Newsflash: developing software is not trivial. Developers are not lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reestman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Xairbusdriver,

In Adobe&#039;s case, I think the native tools don&#039;t matter much because I&#039;m pretty sure they&#039;re using their own cross-platform stuff. 

Adobe may be the worst offender of those that I complain about. When you think about it, Mac users have been pretty much uninvited to every launch party Adobe has ever thrown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xairbusdriver,</p>
<p>In Adobe&#8217;s case, I think the native tools don&#8217;t matter much because I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;re using their own cross-platform stuff. </p>
<p>Adobe may be the worst offender of those that I complain about. When you think about it, Mac users have been pretty much uninvited to every launch party Adobe has ever thrown.</p>
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		<title>By: What to read on the GigaOM network</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What to read on the GigaOM network]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] your web series sponsored (NewTeeVee) New Palm Pre case works with Touchstone charger (jkOnTheRun) The Mac &amp; third-party software launches: nothing has changed (TheAppleBlog) Personal branding vs. self-awareness [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] your web series sponsored (NewTeeVee) New Palm Pre case works with Touchstone charger (jkOnTheRun) The Mac &amp; third-party software launches: nothing has changed (TheAppleBlog) Personal branding vs. self-awareness [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reestman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad, 

I&#039;m not talking about companies who choose not to offer software for the Mac (i.e., those who &quot;don&#039;t bother&quot;). I&#039;m talking about those that DO develop for both platforms. In that case, the decision is already made, so I think they could put forth a better effort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about companies who choose not to offer software for the Mac (i.e., those who &#8220;don&#8217;t bother&#8221;). I&#8217;m talking about those that DO develop for both platforms. In that case, the decision is already made, so I think they could put forth a better effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Xairbusdriver</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xairbusdriver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adobe never made Elements 5 for the Mac. 6 came out early last year. Elements 7 has been available for Windows for quite some time. From what I hear, from programmers who know about them, Apple simply buries MS with super development tools. But most developers simply can&#039;t give up the Windows market share just because it&#039;s easier and nicer to develop for the Mac. Like most of us, they have to put meat on the table...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adobe never made Elements 5 for the Mac. 6 came out early last year. Elements 7 has been available for Windows for quite some time. From what I hear, from programmers who know about them, Apple simply buries MS with super development tools. But most developers simply can&#8217;t give up the Windows market share just because it&#8217;s easier and nicer to develop for the Mac. Like most of us, they have to put meat on the table&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351819</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it costs more than 4% more to develop a Mac version alongside the Windows version I can understand why most companies don&#039;t bother.  I&#039;m sure the typical number is much more like 20%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it costs more than 4% more to develop a Mac version alongside the Windows version I can understand why most companies don&#8217;t bother.  I&#8217;m sure the typical number is much more like 20%.</p>
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		<title>By: MT</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. Developers are being lazy. This is especially dumb considering that Mac users tend to have more expendable income.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Developers are being lazy. This is especially dumb considering that Mac users tend to have more expendable income.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/the-mac-third-party-software-launches-nothing-has-changed/#comment-351817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blizzard is another good example of a developer who releases for both Windows and Mac at the same time.  For World of Warcraft, it makes sense to avoid segmenting the users on different servers (Ala EQ Mac vs EQ Windows).  Even prior to WoW, games like Warcraft III and Diablo 2 shipped with hybrid discs.

Developers are just being lazy, and in the end it means they are leaving money on the table.  Market share is a tricky number, since it often times also includes the tons of PCs bought for businesses.  If your in the entertainment industry especially, your potential Mac market is a lot larger then just 4%.  I&#039;d be real curious to know how many WoW players are on a Mac, clearly it&#039;s enough that Blizzard sees fit to continue to support the platform, and even add unique features like in game video recording.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blizzard is another good example of a developer who releases for both Windows and Mac at the same time.  For World of Warcraft, it makes sense to avoid segmenting the users on different servers (Ala EQ Mac vs EQ Windows).  Even prior to WoW, games like Warcraft III and Diablo 2 shipped with hybrid discs.</p>
<p>Developers are just being lazy, and in the end it means they are leaving money on the table.  Market share is a tricky number, since it often times also includes the tons of PCs bought for businesses.  If your in the entertainment industry especially, your potential Mac market is a lot larger then just 4%.  I&#8217;d be real curious to know how many WoW players are on a Mac, clearly it&#8217;s enough that Blizzard sees fit to continue to support the platform, and even add unique features like in game video recording.</p>
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