Comments on: The Appeal (and Ethics) of Hackintoshing: Should Apple License the Mac OS?

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By: Martyn Hare

Martyn Hare — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:51:32 +0000

Here are a few facts with regards to ethics:

* Anyone who buys an Apple computer and replaces faulty parts with components purchased from random Internet websites is now running a Hackintosh (and thus “can’t” use OS X)

* If Apple had the same level of market share as Microsoft, their actions would be considered monopolistic, and punished in harsher ways than MS is being punished

* Hackintoshes are guaranteed to be 100% legal in Sealand, Afghanistan and Iran due to US copyright not being recognised

* In many countries Apple’s EULA is unenforceable legally
(unless it is shown to you PRIOR to purchase and signed in writing)

* Copyright law allows people to modify software to be compatible and/or interoperable with other platforms provided it still fulfils the original purpose

* Copyright law was never intended to restrict use. Authorship, duplication, performance and copying – but not use.

On that note, we should all be switching to Free Software like GNU/Linux, and avoiding proprietary software as much as possible =D

By: Mr.Goose

Mr.Goose — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:51:28 +0000

1. Much of Apple’s OSX was lifted from the hacking community in the form of BSD.
2. Whilst Apple stuff looks pretty, if you take the back off it then you will observe the same Chinese-sweatshop type electronics you’ll find in devices costing 1/3 the price.
3. Apple forcing purchasers of its software only to use it on Apple hardware is a bit like a car manufacturer telling you you can only drive your car on the roads that it approves of. This is BONKERS! How the hell can anyone reckon this is acceptable?
3. I won’t pay more than three hundred quid (about $500.00) for a laptop. Experience has taught me that heavy users wear out laptops in around 12 to 18 months, regardless of how much they cost.
5. Today’s free OS’s (Ubuntu, Mint, SUSE etc) are so good that frankly for most purposes proprietary OS’s simply don’t justify the additional expenditure anyway.
6. I really think it’s time the planet stopped pandering to the whims of rich American corporate interests. Apple hardware is a rip off. Microsoft software is a rip off. Hollywood movies are a rip off (and more often than not utter rubbish). Ditto the mainstream music industry. Yet lawmakers around the planet seem determined to protect these vested American interests at the expense of 95% of the world population who aren’t American (not to mention the significant slice the United States own population that is also systematically marginalised and disenfranchised by these American corporate interests). Seems to me that the hacking community is the only group of people with the intellectual energy and moral fibre to stand up to these corporate interests. Therefore I take the view that any group that legitimately dents the profits of these corporate fat cats should be encouraged, supported and celebrated.
7. Who outside the rich, white, US-led computing community really gives a toss if Apple goes bust anyway?
8. And finally @ Apple Corp. You may not have noticed but there is a recession on (started as it happens primarily by other corrupt American corporate interests that were allowed to get away with fraud on an epic scale). Therefore, if working people are actually prepared to stump up $129.00 of their hard-earned cash for an OS that you basically ripped off anyway then STOP WHINING! You should be bloody grateful! Don’t push your luck!

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By: Stefan Weir

Stefan Weir — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:32:29 +0000

Netbooks are like Kias – nobody really wants one. They are purchased because you couldn’t afford a Lexus or Mercedes. If people want to put a Lexus emblem on a Kia it’s really none of my business. As much as I hate to say this though, Apple needs to preserve itself by not allowing one Leopard or SL disk to upgrade 50 computers. If someone wants the Lexus badge for their Dell mini they should at least have to pay $129 and use a key code to activate it so Apple sees some type of ROI.

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:59:16 +0000

Well, it’s like that Joe Wilson thing — the health care bill “says” that it’s not supposed to be covering individuals who don’t have complete documentation WRT them being inside the US, but is it enforced?

If Apple doesn’t enforce it, which they’re obviously not doing as of yet, who cares? It “just works” anyway with a half-dozen or so open source drivers. Block the hackintosh and you block your own machines. Actually, it “just works” better, in some cases.

They SHOULD embrace it, because it’s “consumer friendly”. I mean, c’mon, man — I just upgraded a 2.0Ghz dual-core Celeron (E1400) to a 2.66Ghz quad-core Core 2 Duo (E9400) for $189. Try doing that with a mini. That’s interest on your payment plan for a $2500+ Mac Pro.

OS X is UNIX, and UNIX is a certain way — it’s a general purpose OS, and general purpose OS’s are like that. Linux has paved the way — Linux has shown OS X the way. Linux has laid the precedent, now OS X follows and does a better job at it.

It’s in their best interests to embrace it, and I hope they do. They probably will. Hollywood would love it. It must irk Steve Jobs to no end that Pixar does the vast majority of its rendering and CGI on Linux. He’s like that. OS X is actually better on standard hardware (Apple tries too hard to make it small, sleek, sexy) and the hardware they use is actually weirder than the standard DIY stuff.

Linux has paved the way. Ubuntu has shown us what needs to happen. OS X is actually capable of taking us there in a way that “just works”. If you can get Linux up and running, you get a better value for your time and effort going the hackintosh route.

By: KsbjA

KsbjA — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:25:29 +0000

The dealer loses money if you steal it. Stolen car = lost sale, but downloaded software is no lost sale (providing you don’t have the cash).

By: mech

mech — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:36:22 +0000

You know what Khurt, if everyone had your mentality, we would be slaves to the corporations a long time ago. It’s thanks to the likes of hackers/rebels/pirates that we have innovation, adaptation, and forcing a change to the norm established by corporations.

Look at the music industry. It SO doesn’t want to change and keeps trying to introduce more and more draconian policies. They dont want to accept that the MP3 changed the game for them. Are you still willing to go along with their mantra or are you ready to embrace some changes, which may require you to bend a few imposed rules?

I’ll let you sit on that and decide whether you are happy being a slave or a free thinking individual.

By: CF

CF — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:11:00 +0000

BTW, look up record companies’ legal battles against second-hand cd shops. It was only after the courts decided that the ‘Doctrine of First Sale’ still applied (despite what the record companies EULA states about re-selling music, since you don’t technically ‘own’ the music but are just buying a ‘license’).

This has also been an issue in re-selling used software- not only do most software companies refuse to refund an opened software package, but they also prohibit re-selling the software (even if you delete it from your system and sell it with the license and serial). So if you buy a big program and pay upwards of $1000.00 for it, you may be out of luck if it doesn’t work on your system or doesn’t meet your needs.

By: CF

CF — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:40:42 +0000

That WOULD be interesting! While they’re at it, purchase a copy of Final Cut Pro or Logic at the same time. . .

Let’s see if the Apple store will refuse a HUGE software sale to a customer because s/he intends to install it on a ‘hackintosh’!