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	<title>Comments on: Taking The Plunge: Jungle Disk 2</title>
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		<title>By: Alfredo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alfredo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By default restores every file and every folder ever deleted or renamed.  Jungle Disk simply does not have the option to age deletions so they get purged out eventually. Instead either restore way more files than actually got deleted by mistake, or never get the chance to recover from deletions. Strangely they do handle versioning, so it baffles me why they could not implement deletion aging.  You should also know that files restored lose their creation date, which is reset to the restore date, so it’s harder to recuperate from the problem. Support was just awful and since I did not loose data, they were very insensitive to the hours lost and major mess caused. Took 3 weeks to diagnose problem and some 30 back and forths. 4 weeks for resolution. Did give $20 software price refund.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By default restores every file and every folder ever deleted or renamed.  Jungle Disk simply does not have the option to age deletions so they get purged out eventually. Instead either restore way more files than actually got deleted by mistake, or never get the chance to recover from deletions. Strangely they do handle versioning, so it baffles me why they could not implement deletion aging.  You should also know that files restored lose their creation date, which is reset to the restore date, so it’s harder to recuperate from the problem. Support was just awful and since I did not loose data, they were very insensitive to the hours lost and major mess caused. Took 3 weeks to diagnose problem and some 30 back and forths. 4 weeks for resolution. Did give $20 software price refund.</p>
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		<title>By: Backblaze for Mac Now Live</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Backblaze for Mac Now Live]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] try Backblaze out for yourself. If it&#8217;s not for you, keep trying other options as well. Because I guarantee that sooner or later you too will be bitten by the dead hard drive. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] try Backblaze out for yourself. If it&#8217;s not for you, keep trying other options as well. Because I guarantee that sooner or later you too will be bitten by the dead hard drive. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stacie Revard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacie Revard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t this a repost of an older story?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this a repost of an older story?</p>
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		<title>By: 4 Apps to Manage Amazon S3 on a Mac &#124; Get A New Browser</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4 Apps to Manage Amazon S3 on a Mac &#124; Get A New Browser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] automatically backup data easily and securely to Amazon.com&#8217;s S3 Storage Service&#8221;. The Apple Blog says,  The best feature of Jungle Disk Desktop is the fact that your Jungle Disk mounts just like your [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] automatically backup data easily and securely to Amazon.com&#8217;s S3 Storage Service&#8221;. The Apple Blog says,  The best feature of Jungle Disk Desktop is the fact that your Jungle Disk mounts just like your [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Relequestual</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Relequestual]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mark, 1TB of photos? Your paying $150 a month just to host it? sounds a tad crazy to me! Or have I missed something here?
Im currently looking for a backup solution with faster than 1MB upload speed, as I can go up to 10MB now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark, 1TB of photos? Your paying $150 a month just to host it? sounds a tad crazy to me! Or have I missed something here?<br />
Im currently looking for a backup solution with faster than 1MB upload speed, as I can go up to 10MB now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me, a professional photographer with &gt; 1TB of photos to be backed up, JD is the hands down winner.  I have a 20MB up/down connection and JD and S3 is capable of using all of it. I was backed up in a couple days where as other solutions required months, yes months, to get my first backup online.  In this respect JD is a generation ahead of all other solutions I&#039;ve tried, and I&#039;ve tried &#039;em all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, a professional photographer with &gt; 1TB of photos to be backed up, JD is the hands down winner.  I have a 20MB up/down connection and JD and S3 is capable of using all of it. I was backed up in a couple days where as other solutions required months, yes months, to get my first backup online.  In this respect JD is a generation ahead of all other solutions I&#8217;ve tried, and I&#8217;ve tried &#8216;em all.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny Kant</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenny Kant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will echo the comments on using your hosting provider/webhost for personal backup.  I subscribe to http://www.bluehost.com and they offer unlimited storage so naturally I thought I could back up my 15 + gigs of data.. NOPE.  Once I exceeded 15 gig they asked about the content and then disabled my account referencing the TOS which does state not backups of any sort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will echo the comments on using your hosting provider/webhost for personal backup.  I subscribe to <a href="http://www.bluehost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bluehost.com</a> and they offer unlimited storage so naturally I thought I could back up my 15 + gigs of data.. NOPE.  Once I exceeded 15 gig they asked about the content and then disabled my account referencing the TOS which does state not backups of any sort.</p>
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		<title>By: VizualGraphix</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VizualGraphix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David  -- I agree with Digitarius that you should NOT use your webhost to store your personal files. It&#039;s true that they give you a lot of space (not really &quot;unlimited&quot;) for cheap, but they don&#039;t guarantee the safety of these files... these companies take the liberty to free up drive space at their will...no warning to you.

Amazon S3 is the safest solution currently. Why? Because Amazon has the most (and the largest) servers in the world! I&#039;m not sure why David thinks Amazon doesn&#039;t have backups....they do, hundreds (maybe thousands) of them! So if there&#039;s a fire or earthquake or flood at the Amazon S3 headquarters in California, no problem! Your uploaded files are distributed in the cloud...meaning there are backups of your data all over the world on their other servers... Europe, Asia, etc. You can rest assured that your data is safe and backed up.

I use several steps for backup of my personal and business files. Heck, I have over 6TB of storage in my photography studio, between my PowerMac G4, Mac Pro, and external drive cases. Not all of that is backed up online because not all of it is that important. But the most crucial things are backed up in the cloud. Here&#039;s a list of my backup strategy:
1.  Master files on internal hard drives
2.  External RAID-1 (2bay) FW800 drive enclosures; double backup of internal master drives. I use SuperDuper! as my #1 Mac backup (similar to Carbon Copy Cloner), it&#039;s only $28 and you can schedule it to do &quot;smart updates&quot; or incremental backups of only files that have changed...similar to how JD Plus works.
3.  Online (Cloud) Storage... still trying several options:
   • &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jungledisk.com/index.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Amazon S3 via Jungle Disk&lt;/a&gt;
   • &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mozy.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Mozy.com&lt;/a&gt;
   • &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crashplan.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Crash Plan Pro&lt;/a&gt;
I like Crash Plan because it conquers both the local and remote storage issue. You can backup to an external hard drive next to your computer, as well as to an internal or external hard drive at a friend or relatives house (in town or far away), and also backup to places online like Amazon S3. Even though I already have SuperDuper! I&#039;m still leaning this direction. But Jungle Disk does seem very simple to use....

Anyway, the important lesson is to backup your data in at least two different locations. As they say, &quot;having one copy of something is like not having it at all.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David  &#8212; I agree with Digitarius that you should NOT use your webhost to store your personal files. It&#8217;s true that they give you a lot of space (not really &#8220;unlimited&#8221;) for cheap, but they don&#8217;t guarantee the safety of these files&#8230; these companies take the liberty to free up drive space at their will&#8230;no warning to you.</p>
<p>Amazon S3 is the safest solution currently. Why? Because Amazon has the most (and the largest) servers in the world! I&#8217;m not sure why David thinks Amazon doesn&#8217;t have backups&#8230;.they do, hundreds (maybe thousands) of them! So if there&#8217;s a fire or earthquake or flood at the Amazon S3 headquarters in California, no problem! Your uploaded files are distributed in the cloud&#8230;meaning there are backups of your data all over the world on their other servers&#8230; Europe, Asia, etc. You can rest assured that your data is safe and backed up.</p>
<p>I use several steps for backup of my personal and business files. Heck, I have over 6TB of storage in my photography studio, between my PowerMac G4, Mac Pro, and external drive cases. Not all of that is backed up online because not all of it is that important. But the most crucial things are backed up in the cloud. Here&#8217;s a list of my backup strategy:<br />
1.  Master files on internal hard drives<br />
2.  External RAID-1 (2bay) FW800 drive enclosures; double backup of internal master drives. I use SuperDuper! as my #1 Mac backup (similar to Carbon Copy Cloner), it&#8217;s only $28 and you can schedule it to do &#8220;smart updates&#8221; or incremental backups of only files that have changed&#8230;similar to how JD Plus works.<br />
3.  Online (Cloud) Storage&#8230; still trying several options:<br />
   • <a href="http://www.jungledisk.com/index.aspx" rel="nofollow"> Amazon S3 via Jungle Disk</a><br />
   • <a href="http://www.mozy.com" rel="nofollow"> Mozy.com</a><br />
   • <a href="http://www.crashplan.com" rel="nofollow"> Crash Plan Pro</a><br />
I like Crash Plan because it conquers both the local and remote storage issue. You can backup to an external hard drive next to your computer, as well as to an internal or external hard drive at a friend or relatives house (in town or far away), and also backup to places online like Amazon S3. Even though I already have SuperDuper! I&#8217;m still leaning this direction. But Jungle Disk does seem very simple to use&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway, the important lesson is to backup your data in at least two different locations. As they say, &#8220;having one copy of something is like not having it at all.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just thought I&#039;d point out to Paulius that NAS is not an alternative to OFF SITE backup. Jungle Disk gets your data OFF SITE - because -what if you (God Forbid) have a break-in, Fire, Earthquake, Flood.....  and loose that NAS. I think JD is a great solution. Hopefully, Amazon will be around for a long time and all of us can sleep easy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d point out to Paulius that NAS is not an alternative to OFF SITE backup. Jungle Disk gets your data OFF SITE &#8211; because -what if you (God Forbid) have a break-in, Fire, Earthquake, Flood&#8230;..  and loose that NAS. I think JD is a great solution. Hopefully, Amazon will be around for a long time and all of us can sleep easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Digitarius</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-the-plunge-jungle-disk-2/#comment-328844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digitarius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David - Read the EULA for your webhost very carefully. Most include language that says you shouldn&#039;t be using them for personal backup storage, and they&#039;re not liable if they delete such files (or, in general, lose files) on the server to make extra room. I imagine they might take notice when you break 15+ Gigs like I do with Jungle Disk. You do pay for storage on S3, though. And you&#039;re using the exact some service that Pownce.com is using, among other very large sites.

I&#039;ve been distrustful of webhosts since I&#039;ve lost data on Hosting plans with two very reputable hosts. You should always have a backup of what&#039;s on a shared server.



JD&#039;s on-the-fly encryption is the best selling point. It allows you to enter keys that only you will have for encryption, as well as change said key and add the old ones to a key library.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; Read the EULA for your webhost very carefully. Most include language that says you shouldn&#8217;t be using them for personal backup storage, and they&#8217;re not liable if they delete such files (or, in general, lose files) on the server to make extra room. I imagine they might take notice when you break 15+ Gigs like I do with Jungle Disk. You do pay for storage on S3, though. And you&#8217;re using the exact some service that Pownce.com is using, among other very large sites.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been distrustful of webhosts since I&#8217;ve lost data on Hosting plans with two very reputable hosts. You should always have a backup of what&#8217;s on a shared server.</p>
<p>JD&#8217;s on-the-fly encryption is the best selling point. It allows you to enter keys that only you will have for encryption, as well as change said key and add the old ones to a key library.</p>
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