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	<title>Comments on: Taking Mail&#8217;s Junk Filter for Granted</title>
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		<title>By: ahmet sensoz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ahmet sensoz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 08:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is something we Macintosh users totally agree!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something we Macintosh users totally agree!</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isabel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t add your rss feed to my reader, what could be the problem?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t add your rss feed to my reader, what could be the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Lorie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m having a problem with my junk mail filter lately. The mail I get from a couple of sites such as Costco continue to break thru the filter no matter HOW often I mark them as &#039;junk&#039;.  Anyone know why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having a problem with my junk mail filter lately. The mail I get from a couple of sites such as Costco continue to break thru the filter no matter HOW often I mark them as &#8216;junk&#8217;.  Anyone know why?</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mac&#039;s filter sucks.  Lets way too much through.  But it&#039;s better than nothing.

One question.  How can I filter mail on my iPhone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac&#8217;s filter sucks.  Lets way too much through.  But it&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
<p>One question.  How can I filter mail on my iPhone?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Simpson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t be the only one that thinks the spam filter in Apple Mail is a freaking joke, can I?  I used to get false negatives &lt;em&gt;every day&lt;/em&gt; before I finally got fed up and installed SpamSieve.

I found that the Apple one was slower and required a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; more training, and even after all that training spam would still get through to my inbox.

I get anywhere from 20 to 40 spam messages a day, similar to John Davis above, but if I see one get through SpamSieve to my inbox in a week then that&#039;s a bad week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t be the only one that thinks the spam filter in Apple Mail is a freaking joke, can I?  I used to get false negatives <em>every day</em> before I finally got fed up and installed SpamSieve.</p>
<p>I found that the Apple one was slower and required a <em>lot</em> more training, and even after all that training spam would still get through to my inbox.</p>
<p>I get anywhere from 20 to 40 spam messages a day, similar to John Davis above, but if I see one get through SpamSieve to my inbox in a week then that&#8217;s a bad week.</p>
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		<title>By: Honza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Honza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never got much spam until some sicko windows luser got a worm in his inbox.

I tried Gmail recently, but I only sent 1 email from it as a test. When I logged in the next day there were 100&#039;s of spam mails in the spam folder. So, it seems that Gmail give out your email address to anyone right? No thanks, I&#039;ll stick with Yahoo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got much spam until some sicko windows luser got a worm in his inbox.</p>
<p>I tried Gmail recently, but I only sent 1 email from it as a test. When I logged in the next day there were 100&#8242;s of spam mails in the spam folder. So, it seems that Gmail give out your email address to anyone right? No thanks, I&#8217;ll stick with Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: John Davis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. The junk filter in mail is excellent. I regularly get 30/40 a day and only about once a week does something find its way through.

John Davis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The junk filter in mail is excellent. I regularly get 30/40 a day and only about once a week does something find its way through.</p>
<p>John Davis</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One account I have in Mail.app never used to get spam at all. Now it does, although I&#039;ve never posted the address anywhere on the web and only ever given it to family and friends. Oh, well, I suppose it only takes one Windows-using acquaintence to get infected, and the malware on their machine will vaccuum up any mail addresses stored on it ...

To get to the point, I find the spam I&#039;m currently getting is all image spam, and it goes right through Mail.app&#039;s spam filter. Presumably, &quot;latent semantic analysis&quot; -- the method Mail.app&#039;s built-in filter uses -- is not very good with image spam. Maybe a bayesian spam filter, like SpamSieve or Bogofilter, would do better. But I&#039;m not sure I want to pay up for SpamSieve, and getting Bogofilter compiled and running on OS X sound a little hit-and-miss from what I&#039;ve read. At the moment I&#039;m using a manual filter to deal with image spam as described here:

http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/a-mail-app-rule-for-catching-image-spam/

But that is a bit of a kludge and is going to result in false positives. It&#039;s a nuisance. It seems Mail.app&#039;s filter can&#039;t cope with image spam, and that&#039;s now so prevalent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One account I have in Mail.app never used to get spam at all. Now it does, although I&#8217;ve never posted the address anywhere on the web and only ever given it to family and friends. Oh, well, I suppose it only takes one Windows-using acquaintence to get infected, and the malware on their machine will vaccuum up any mail addresses stored on it &#8230;</p>
<p>To get to the point, I find the spam I&#8217;m currently getting is all image spam, and it goes right through Mail.app&#8217;s spam filter. Presumably, &#8220;latent semantic analysis&#8221; &#8212; the method Mail.app&#8217;s built-in filter uses &#8212; is not very good with image spam. Maybe a bayesian spam filter, like SpamSieve or Bogofilter, would do better. But I&#8217;m not sure I want to pay up for SpamSieve, and getting Bogofilter compiled and running on OS X sound a little hit-and-miss from what I&#8217;ve read. At the moment I&#8217;m using a manual filter to deal with image spam as described here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/a-mail-app-rule-for-catching-image-spam/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/a-mail-app-rule-for-catching-image-spam/</a></p>
<p>But that is a bit of a kludge and is going to result in false positives. It&#8217;s a nuisance. It seems Mail.app&#8217;s filter can&#8217;t cope with image spam, and that&#8217;s now so prevalent.</p>
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		<title>By: mic</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gmail and Yahoo! mail both have great spam filters--I read .Mac, gmail and Yahoo mail on my blackberry and get very little spam forwarded. But like Galley above, I get very little spam on my .Mac account--that&#039;s because I don&#039;t use it to buy stuff (except iTunes or the Apple store). Most of my spam goes to gmail or Yahoo (which I have had forever) and gets filtered out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmail and Yahoo! mail both have great spam filters&#8211;I read .Mac, gmail and Yahoo mail on my blackberry and get very little spam forwarded. But like Galley above, I get very little spam on my .Mac account&#8211;that&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t use it to buy stuff (except iTunes or the Apple store). Most of my spam goes to gmail or Yahoo (which I have had forever) and gets filtered out</p>
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		<title>By: Galley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/taking-mails-junk-filter-for-granted/#comment-318683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Galley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe I&#039;m lucky, but I have yet to receive any spam on my .Mac account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m lucky, but I have yet to receive any spam on my .Mac account.</p>
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