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	<title>Comments on: Spy shots show OS X without the &#8216;Mac&#8217;; could clones return?</title>
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		<title>By: Xanny&#8217;s Tech Weblog &#187; Foto dei cartelloni dove si svolgera&#8217; il WWDC</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xanny&#8217;s Tech Weblog &#187; Foto dei cartelloni dove si svolgera&#8217; il WWDC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] c’è chi sostiene che le ragioni siano altre, come Nick Mediati di The Apple Blog che si diverte a speculare, per sua stessa ammissione senza alcun intento di apparire realistico, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] c’è chi sostiene che le ragioni siano altre, come Nick Mediati di The Apple Blog che si diverte a speculare, per sua stessa ammissione senza alcun intento di apparire realistico, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Honza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Honza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s quite simple, they are killing the &#039;Macintosh&#039; brand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite simple, they are killing the &#8216;Macintosh&#8217; brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Late rumor shows new developer Mac; is this for real? &#124; RatZine - Rat stinkin news</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Late rumor shows new developer Mac; is this for real? &#124; RatZine - Rat stinkin news]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mentions &#8220;OS X,&#8221; not &#8220;Mac OS X,&#8221; which is consistent with Apple&#8217;s apparent shift in OS X branding. And perhaps there are other special features with developers in mind; there&#8217;s not a whole [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mentions &#8220;OS X,&#8221; not &#8220;Mac OS X,&#8221; which is consistent with Apple&#8217;s apparent shift in OS X branding. And perhaps there are other special features with developers in mind; there&#8217;s not a whole [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Late rumor shows new developer Mac; is this for real? &#124; The Apple Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Late rumor shows new developer Mac; is this for real? &#124; The Apple Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] mentions &#8220;OS X,&#8221; not &#8220;Mac OS X,&#8221; which is consistent with Apple&#8217;s apparent shift in OS X branding. And perhaps there are other special features with developers in mind; there&#8217;s not a whole [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mentions &#8220;OS X,&#8221; not &#8220;Mac OS X,&#8221; which is consistent with Apple&#8217;s apparent shift in OS X branding. And perhaps there are other special features with developers in mind; there&#8217;s not a whole [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Apple WWDC Rumor Round Up And Predictions &#187; Webomatica - Technology and Entertainment Digest</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple WWDC Rumor Round Up And Predictions &#187; Webomatica - Technology and Entertainment Digest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/?p=3450#comment-328108</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] Apple releasing OS X for PCs: Granted, the author of this article was just tossing this out there, but this rumor comes up every year and it never feels right. I know many PC users are dreaming of this day, but I feel it will never become a reality as long as Mac hardware sales are on the up and up and Apple is raking in the coinage as things are. OS X on PCs is the ultimate back up plan in case all else fails and Apple is on the ropes. And Apple&#8217;s definitely not on the ropes right now, so forget about it. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apple releasing OS X for PCs: Granted, the author of this article was just tossing this out there, but this rumor comes up every year and it never feels right. I know many PC users are dreaming of this day, but I feel it will never become a reality as long as Mac hardware sales are on the up and up and Apple is raking in the coinage as things are. OS X on PCs is the ultimate back up plan in case all else fails and Apple is on the ropes. And Apple&#8217;s definitely not on the ropes right now, so forget about it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Apple’s WWDC banners show OS X without the ‘Mac’&#160;&#124;&#160;M12</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328099</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple’s WWDC banners show OS X without the ‘Mac’&#160;&#124;&#160;M12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Full article here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Full article here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328098</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno. I still seriously doubt there will be a version of the Mac OS released for standard PCs in the near future. It doesn&#039;t fit with Apple&#039;s integral bubble of &quot;The Mac OS runs on Mac machines&quot; and vice versa.

Also, the dropping of PPC support on the second OS release after the PPC chips were dropped? Not very likely in my books.

Although, come back to me in six months before MacWorld and ask me again, I may have changed my mind depending on what happens at WWDC.

As a sidenote, I&#039;m running Safari 3.1.1 on Tiger, and I have no problems whatsoever with things being over on the left, I have a clear 200 ish pixel border down the left hand side.

Peace out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno. I still seriously doubt there will be a version of the Mac OS released for standard PCs in the near future. It doesn&#8217;t fit with Apple&#8217;s integral bubble of &#8220;The Mac OS runs on Mac machines&#8221; and vice versa.</p>
<p>Also, the dropping of PPC support on the second OS release after the PPC chips were dropped? Not very likely in my books.</p>
<p>Although, come back to me in six months before MacWorld and ask me again, I may have changed my mind depending on what happens at WWDC.</p>
<p>As a sidenote, I&#8217;m running Safari 3.1.1 on Tiger, and I have no problems whatsoever with things being over on the left, I have a clear 200 ish pixel border down the left hand side.</p>
<p>Peace out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The comment about the stuff jammed all the way to the left is a &#039;bug&#039; with Safari. Open this site in a tab and it&#039;s one pixel from the edge. Has been happening for several Safari 3.x versions now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment about the stuff jammed all the way to the left is a &#8216;bug&#8217; with Safari. Open this site in a tab and it&#8217;s one pixel from the edge. Has been happening for several Safari 3.x versions now.</p>
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		<title>By: alphaeus - think, design, create &#187; Archive &#187; &#187; Hell freezes over &#8230; again!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alphaeus - think, design, create &#187; Archive &#187; &#187; Hell freezes over &#8230; again!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the form of rumors. Friday morning, the first spy shots of Moscone Center West were published. Now The AppleBlog is raising the question if the obvious lack of &#8220;Mac&#8221; branding (there is no [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the form of rumors. Friday morning, the first spy shots of Moscone Center West were published. Now The AppleBlog is raising the question if the obvious lack of &#8220;Mac&#8221; branding (there is no [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johannes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel a sense of doubt, a disturbance in the Force.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a sense of doubt, a disturbance in the Force.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t the two SF bridges on Apple&#039;s WWDC &lt;i&gt;Landmark Event&lt;/i&gt; promo...
http://tinyurl.com/5bzxao
...look strangely like a victory sign? :)

http://tinyurl.com/56bjde
Thought so.

So, what &#039;victory&#039; is announced with Apple&#039;s pic? One in the near future, where the unfulfilled Vista masses may, by Apple&#039;s grace, switch for cheap to the Snow Leopard? Probably, this will remain a pipe dream, but it might just be true. We&#039;ll know in just two days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t the two SF bridges on Apple&#8217;s WWDC <i>Landmark Event</i> promo&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5bzxao" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5bzxao</a><br />
&#8230;look strangely like a victory sign? :)</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/56bjde" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/56bjde</a><br />
Thought so.</p>
<p>So, what &#8216;victory&#8217; is announced with Apple&#8217;s pic? One in the near future, where the unfulfilled Vista masses may, by Apple&#8217;s grace, switch for cheap to the Snow Leopard? Probably, this will remain a pipe dream, but it might just be true. We&#8217;ll know in just two days.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dropping PPC to &quot;force&quot; users to upgrade?  Never mind that the last PPC Power Macs are just over two years old, and still run pretty darn well compared to their Intel brethren.

Take this rumor like you take any other: with a large grain of salt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dropping PPC to &#8220;force&#8221; users to upgrade?  Never mind that the last PPC Power Macs are just over two years old, and still run pretty darn well compared to their Intel brethren.</p>
<p>Take this rumor like you take any other: with a large grain of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: David H Dennis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David H Dennis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://theappleblog.com/?p=3450#comment-328103</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[One curious thing about Pystar is that its systems are not all that competitive with real Macs.  If you want a legal Pystar clone, you need to order it with MacOS X, and that makes the base price $530.

Apple will sell you a Mac Mini for $599.

Furthermore, it looked to me like most people want Pystar machines specced up to the point of the iMac, not Mac Mini, and when you do that you get to about $750, versus common iMac refurbished prices of $850-950.  Since the iMac includes a nice monitor and the Pystar does not, there seems to be very little reason to buy the latter unless you&#039;re into hardcore tinkering, or you really love your junky old monitor.

The tinkerer&#039;s market is a small one that Apple has no interest in, so it&#039;s very possible that Apple is ignoring Pystar since they are indirect competitors at best.

I would say that at current prices very few people who want Macs are going to be Pystar customers.

So it may not be worth the cost of shutting Pystar down, especially since they are selling quasi-legitimate copies of MacOS X, and that revenue goes to Apple.

Apple probably makes more on the $90-odd wholesale price than Pystar makes on the rest of the package.

D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One curious thing about Pystar is that its systems are not all that competitive with real Macs.  If you want a legal Pystar clone, you need to order it with MacOS X, and that makes the base price $530.</p>
<p>Apple will sell you a Mac Mini for $599.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it looked to me like most people want Pystar machines specced up to the point of the iMac, not Mac Mini, and when you do that you get to about $750, versus common iMac refurbished prices of $850-950.  Since the iMac includes a nice monitor and the Pystar does not, there seems to be very little reason to buy the latter unless you&#8217;re into hardcore tinkering, or you really love your junky old monitor.</p>
<p>The tinkerer&#8217;s market is a small one that Apple has no interest in, so it&#8217;s very possible that Apple is ignoring Pystar since they are indirect competitors at best.</p>
<p>I would say that at current prices very few people who want Macs are going to be Pystar customers.</p>
<p>So it may not be worth the cost of shutting Pystar down, especially since they are selling quasi-legitimate copies of MacOS X, and that revenue goes to Apple.</p>
<p>Apple probably makes more on the $90-odd wholesale price than Pystar makes on the rest of the package.</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: Maciverse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple WWDC 08 Approaches</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maciverse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple WWDC 08 Approaches]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the final steps of moving away from the PowerPC processor line. There is also some thought that Apple may start allowing their OS to be run on non-Apple computers. I&#8217;m a bit skeptic (although would enjoy the possibility) of this idea as the combination of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the final steps of moving away from the PowerPC processor line. There is also some thought that Apple may start allowing their OS to be run on non-Apple computers. I&#8217;m a bit skeptic (although would enjoy the possibility) of this idea as the combination of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone, this is the downside of blogs: People post whatever comes into their head without giving themselves the time to review it and conclude &quot;Holy crap that was a stupendously silly idea, I&#039;m sure glad I didn&#039;t post that!&quot;

Sorry for being harsh, but I just read an article where a &quot;professional&quot; writer thought that flash memory was memory specifically designed for Adobe Flash Media Player and still trying to recover from that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone, this is the downside of blogs: People post whatever comes into their head without giving themselves the time to review it and conclude &#8220;Holy crap that was a stupendously silly idea, I&#8217;m sure glad I didn&#8217;t post that!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry for being harsh, but I just read an article where a &#8220;professional&#8221; writer thought that flash memory was memory specifically designed for Adobe Flash Media Player and still trying to recover from that.</p>
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		<title>By: WWDC ‘08 Rumor Roundup &#124; RatZine - Rat stinkin news</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/spy-shots-show-os-x-without-the-mac/#comment-328100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WWDC ‘08 Rumor Roundup &#124; RatZine - Rat stinkin news]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mac Clones [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mac Clones [...]</p>
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