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		<title>By: Apple Fever - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Apple - Powered by SocialRank</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324008</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Honza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Honza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Matt Sharpe

&quot;any sense you were making was lost right there.&quot;

It&#039;s obvious what was meant by my statement, but just for a Thurrot fanboy - I was pointing at industry standards that curb innovation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Sharpe</p>
<p>&#8220;any sense you were making was lost right there.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious what was meant by my statement, but just for a Thurrot fanboy &#8211; I was pointing at industry standards that curb innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lordmike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lordmike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;d be like saying my HTC Wizard is a UMPC and my HTC has more applications and more functionality then iPhone with probably some exceptions that I can&#039;t remember atm. I have windows in my HTC, and it&#039;s a phone so it&#039;s called a pocket pc, so iphone should just be called pocket pc (as in personal computer and not related to an intel PC) or just pocket mac. But it&#039;s not a UMPC. HTC Advantage X7501 is more of a UMPC then iPhone is at the moment.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;d be like saying my HTC Wizard is a UMPC and my HTC has more applications and more functionality then iPhone with probably some exceptions that I can&#8217;t remember atm. I have windows in my HTC, and it&#8217;s a phone so it&#8217;s called a pocket pc, so iphone should just be called pocket pc (as in personal computer and not related to an intel PC) or just pocket mac. But it&#8217;s not a UMPC. HTC Advantage X7501 is more of a UMPC then iPhone is at the moment.<br />
<a href="http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Sharpe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Sharpe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Honza

&quot;who cares about industry standards&quot; - any sense you were making was lost right there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Honza</p>
<p>&#8220;who cares about industry standards&#8221; &#8211; any sense you were making was lost right there.</p>
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		<title>By: Honza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Honza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with nfoo. Too many designers focus on trying make a device that&#039;s unlimited in every way, too many features, not many (any) of them done well. Apple don&#039;t do this, they at least try to give you what you need, keep it simple, and make it the best at what it&#039;s supposed to do, without bells and whistles that you never need. And who cares about industry standards, and industry &#039;definition&#039;. Phooey! Rules (definitions) are made to be broken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with nfoo. Too many designers focus on trying make a device that&#8217;s unlimited in every way, too many features, not many (any) of them done well. Apple don&#8217;t do this, they at least try to give you what you need, keep it simple, and make it the best at what it&#8217;s supposed to do, without bells and whistles that you never need. And who cares about industry standards, and industry &#8216;definition&#8217;. Phooey! Rules (definitions) are made to be broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@D. Clark

No, you are off your rocker.  Paul is using the industry&#039;s definition of UMPC.  This blog is using a definition of UMPC that they just made up.  Paul&#039;s argument is sound because it relies on the generally accepted industry definition.  The iphone is pretty sweet, but UMPC it definitely is not.

This blog&#039;s article is like me saying that an apple is actually a banana because my definition supports my argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@D. Clark</p>
<p>No, you are off your rocker.  Paul is using the industry&#8217;s definition of UMPC.  This blog is using a definition of UMPC that they just made up.  Paul&#8217;s argument is sound because it relies on the generally accepted industry definition.  The iphone is pretty sweet, but UMPC it definitely is not.</p>
<p>This blog&#8217;s article is like me saying that an apple is actually a banana because my definition supports my argument.</p>
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		<title>By: nfoo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nfoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well ... I don&#039;t really know that Thurrott guy ... but I think he is too narrow minded.

The UMPCs are a joke. And that&#039;s partly because of narrow mindedness like this. USB ports to attach a mouse?

The iPhone needs no mouse. An ultra mobile device needs no mouse.(And I wonder what Apple does with those rumored new MacBook.)
As all these old fashioned input devices, and yes, I mean hard keyboards, too, were never meant for such a form factor and shouldn&#039;t have been put in there in the first place ... and where put in there because of narrow mindedness and lack of ability to innovate. Lack of creativity.

And that&#039;s the reason why Windows Mobile and Symbian devices always suck, too: they try to turn those small devices into PCs that can do everything.

This makes no sense in the first place and never got anyone anywhere.

Apple is doing the right thing and really shows how super mobile mini computers should be:
-Internet communications device, that has the phone features you heed to have left when you have internet everywhere and all the time - that means a reduced phone is enough.
That means a real browser with a new ui that makes sense on a smaller screen: multitouch, zoom.
-A suite of smart applications that make sense on such a form factor.
-Media Player

The biggest mistake all techies always do is the: put more, more into it. Just so that you can spend your time by playing with your device. The device becomes the content.

I&#039;m glad Apple stops this non sense and started this big experiment. And it turns out to be right. Now they will figure out if they will open it to 3rd party software ... and I&#039;m still not 100% convinced that we need this. They should just add some more functions by themselfes ... PDF reading ... maybe Office file viewer ...

An ultra mobile device should never be set to replace a notebook computer. That&#039;s the big mistake.
And that&#039;s why the iPhone is the beginning of the new ultra mobile computers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8230; I don&#8217;t really know that Thurrott guy &#8230; but I think he is too narrow minded.</p>
<p>The UMPCs are a joke. And that&#8217;s partly because of narrow mindedness like this. USB ports to attach a mouse?</p>
<p>The iPhone needs no mouse. An ultra mobile device needs no mouse.(And I wonder what Apple does with those rumored new MacBook.)<br />
As all these old fashioned input devices, and yes, I mean hard keyboards, too, were never meant for such a form factor and shouldn&#8217;t have been put in there in the first place &#8230; and where put in there because of narrow mindedness and lack of ability to innovate. Lack of creativity.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the reason why Windows Mobile and Symbian devices always suck, too: they try to turn those small devices into PCs that can do everything.</p>
<p>This makes no sense in the first place and never got anyone anywhere.</p>
<p>Apple is doing the right thing and really shows how super mobile mini computers should be:<br />
-Internet communications device, that has the phone features you heed to have left when you have internet everywhere and all the time &#8211; that means a reduced phone is enough.<br />
That means a real browser with a new ui that makes sense on a smaller screen: multitouch, zoom.<br />
-A suite of smart applications that make sense on such a form factor.<br />
-Media Player</p>
<p>The biggest mistake all techies always do is the: put more, more into it. Just so that you can spend your time by playing with your device. The device becomes the content.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Apple stops this non sense and started this big experiment. And it turns out to be right. Now they will figure out if they will open it to 3rd party software &#8230; and I&#8217;m still not 100% convinced that we need this. They should just add some more functions by themselfes &#8230; PDF reading &#8230; maybe Office file viewer &#8230;</p>
<p>An ultra mobile device should never be set to replace a notebook computer. That&#8217;s the big mistake.<br />
And that&#8217;s why the iPhone is the beginning of the new ultra mobile computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bie Kipper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bie Kipper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Shh… Don’t tell anyone the iPhone is actually a UMPC&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t worry, we won&#039;t, because this version of the iPhone isn&#039;t an UMPC especially with how Apple persists in locking out and locking down its functionality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shh… Don’t tell anyone the iPhone is actually a UMPC</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, we won&#8217;t, because this version of the iPhone isn&#8217;t an UMPC especially with how Apple persists in locking out and locking down its functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Clark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/shh-dont-tell-anyone-the-iphone-is-actually-a-umpc/#comment-324000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D. Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Thurrot is off his rocker. Who says you *need* the total desktop interface to be a portable pc - you don&#039;t. Why do we need cut and paste - we don&#039;t. Why do we need a mouse - we don&#039;t - we have our fingers. It does not surprise me that many people don&#039;t get that. The iPhone can be a UMPC given proper app support. Is it a shrunken Mac with a mac os x dock, cut/paste etc... - no and that is what will make all the difference. Apple has a adapted the ui and its apps for the purpose - instead of the m$ way of trying to wedge a UI built for a 21&quot;+ screen onto a 3&quot; screen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Thurrot is off his rocker. Who says you *need* the total desktop interface to be a portable pc &#8211; you don&#8217;t. Why do we need cut and paste &#8211; we don&#8217;t. Why do we need a mouse &#8211; we don&#8217;t &#8211; we have our fingers. It does not surprise me that many people don&#8217;t get that. The iPhone can be a UMPC given proper app support. Is it a shrunken Mac with a mac os x dock, cut/paste etc&#8230; &#8211; no and that is what will make all the difference. Apple has a adapted the ui and its apps for the purpose &#8211; instead of the m$ way of trying to wedge a UI built for a 21&#8243;+ screen onto a 3&#8243; screen.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Cuclillas also has a gift for mis-attribution.  He never said anything about cash registers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Cuclillas also has a gift for mis-attribution.  He never said anything about cash registers.</p>
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