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	<title>Comments on: Paul Thurrott: Safari is From Apple, Therefore I Hate It</title>
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		<title>By: Remi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Remi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Paul Thurrott is a bag of shit.

He keeps criticizing Apple&#039;s product on every ground, while he doesn&#039;t understand the target market for apple product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Paul Thurrott is a bag of shit.</p>
<p>He keeps criticizing Apple&#8217;s product on every ground, while he doesn&#8217;t understand the target market for apple product.</p>
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		<title>By: AppleGuy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AppleGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First and foremost this review was a &quot;preview&quot; of Apple&#039;s Safari while it was still in Beta.  And guess what?  Back then it had the tabs on the top, oh, wait, you even posted a picture of it when you so painfully compared IE7 to Safari.  On another thought, instead of showing a picture of IE7 or IE8 from Windows XP--an OS that I would consider to be almost outdated--let&#039;s instead show it on Vista where it looks MUCH better.  If you&#039;re going to do that with Internet Explorer then let&#039;s see what Safari 4 looks like on an outdated Mac OS, oh, wait you can&#039;t.

Sorry, but this whole article takes cheap shots at someone who made a decent review of a beta (keyword, beta) product.  I have also tried Safari 3 and 4 on my computers and it is NO way faster or slower than Firefox or IE8.  If you actually waited until he did a review of the final product you would realize he was much more on Apple&#039;s side--I&#039;ll admit the beta was pathetic while the final product was somewhat usable.  But why the heck would you do that?  Instead let&#039;s just lambast someone for doing a decent review.

Let&#039;s be realistic though for a moment--we can be realistic at the Apple Blog, right?--Safari is designed for the Mac OS, it is &quot;re-designed&quot; for the Windows OS, and guess what, Apple, for one of many reasons, doesn&#039;t make as great of software for the Windows OS as they do for their own OS, go figure.  When I use a Windows program I don&#039;t want it to look like a Mac OS X program, it may look great on the Mac, but guess what?  It doesn&#039;t on Windows.  Of course, there are plenty of realistic reasons for this, they don&#039;t know the Windows code as well as their own or perhaps they just don&#039;t want to put as much time and effort for a non-Apple platform based web-browser, completely acceptable.  Never-the-less we must realize that Apple products for Windows are nothing special.  If anything I would prefer Google Chrome&#039;s look and feel to Safari 4&#039;s, and that&#039;s saying something.

I realize that this is an Apple Blog and most people here drink the special Kool-Aid that Steve Jobs and his fine people at Apple mix up, but at least keep an open-mind out, there are people that don&#039;t think Safari is the greatest thing that&#039;s ever happened to technology.  If they write a review that accurately takes the negative points of Safari and talk about them--while at the same time looking at the positive takes--then let them be.

Oh, and yes, the whole TV and PC monitor thing, there is a difference.  Software should be specifically designed for PC&#039;s or TV&#039;s.  Not sure about you guys, but  I use my TV from a distance, typically with a remote.  I use my computer with a mouse and keyboard.  Certain interfaces work better with one or the other and, well, so it seems Safari 4&#039;s navigation for favorites and history would work much better in a TV-type setting.  So when Paul Thurrott states that it looks better on a TV he is simply saying it would be easier to navigate on a TV.

There I&#039;ve said my share.  Hopefully we can all have a more open-mind towards both Apple and Microsoft products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First and foremost this review was a &#8220;preview&#8221; of Apple&#8217;s Safari while it was still in Beta.  And guess what?  Back then it had the tabs on the top, oh, wait, you even posted a picture of it when you so painfully compared IE7 to Safari.  On another thought, instead of showing a picture of IE7 or IE8 from Windows XP&#8211;an OS that I would consider to be almost outdated&#8211;let&#8217;s instead show it on Vista where it looks MUCH better.  If you&#8217;re going to do that with Internet Explorer then let&#8217;s see what Safari 4 looks like on an outdated Mac OS, oh, wait you can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Sorry, but this whole article takes cheap shots at someone who made a decent review of a beta (keyword, beta) product.  I have also tried Safari 3 and 4 on my computers and it is NO way faster or slower than Firefox or IE8.  If you actually waited until he did a review of the final product you would realize he was much more on Apple&#8217;s side&#8211;I&#8217;ll admit the beta was pathetic while the final product was somewhat usable.  But why the heck would you do that?  Instead let&#8217;s just lambast someone for doing a decent review.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be realistic though for a moment&#8211;we can be realistic at the Apple Blog, right?&#8211;Safari is designed for the Mac OS, it is &#8220;re-designed&#8221; for the Windows OS, and guess what, Apple, for one of many reasons, doesn&#8217;t make as great of software for the Windows OS as they do for their own OS, go figure.  When I use a Windows program I don&#8217;t want it to look like a Mac OS X program, it may look great on the Mac, but guess what?  It doesn&#8217;t on Windows.  Of course, there are plenty of realistic reasons for this, they don&#8217;t know the Windows code as well as their own or perhaps they just don&#8217;t want to put as much time and effort for a non-Apple platform based web-browser, completely acceptable.  Never-the-less we must realize that Apple products for Windows are nothing special.  If anything I would prefer Google Chrome&#8217;s look and feel to Safari 4&#8242;s, and that&#8217;s saying something.</p>
<p>I realize that this is an Apple Blog and most people here drink the special Kool-Aid that Steve Jobs and his fine people at Apple mix up, but at least keep an open-mind out, there are people that don&#8217;t think Safari is the greatest thing that&#8217;s ever happened to technology.  If they write a review that accurately takes the negative points of Safari and talk about them&#8211;while at the same time looking at the positive takes&#8211;then let them be.</p>
<p>Oh, and yes, the whole TV and PC monitor thing, there is a difference.  Software should be specifically designed for PC&#8217;s or TV&#8217;s.  Not sure about you guys, but  I use my TV from a distance, typically with a remote.  I use my computer with a mouse and keyboard.  Certain interfaces work better with one or the other and, well, so it seems Safari 4&#8242;s navigation for favorites and history would work much better in a TV-type setting.  So when Paul Thurrott states that it looks better on a TV he is simply saying it would be easier to navigate on a TV.</p>
<p>There I&#8217;ve said my share.  Hopefully we can all have a more open-mind towards both Apple and Microsoft products.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple News &#187; Thoughts On Safari 4: Some Bad, Mostly Good</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple News &#187; Thoughts On Safari 4: Some Bad, Mostly Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the oft-criticized Tabs on Top (TOT) have been removed. I loved these things, and am disappointed they&#8217;re gone. It just reaffirms my belief that a window’s title bar is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the oft-criticized Tabs on Top (TOT) have been removed. I loved these things, and am disappointed they&#8217;re gone. It just reaffirms my belief that a window’s title bar is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts On Safari 4: Some Bad, Mostly Good</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thoughts On Safari 4: Some Bad, Mostly Good]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Safari 4 beta was blasted as being “pointlessly visual,” I commented that it was flexible in how you could use it. To summarize, I turn it off for my bookmarks list [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Safari 4 beta was blasted as being “pointlessly visual,” I commented that it was flexible in how you could use it. To summarize, I turn it off for my bookmarks list [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tabs are more useful at the top then below the address bar to me; that&#039;s why since Sept.&#039;08 I&#039;ve used Chrome exclusively. I&#039;m interested in seeing Safari 4 and Chrome 2; those top 2 browsers are far superior to FF3 and IE8. There&#039;s a reason IE8 has under 2% of the market.

Daniel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tabs are more useful at the top then below the address bar to me; that&#8217;s why since Sept.&#8217;08 I&#8217;ve used Chrome exclusively. I&#8217;m interested in seeing Safari 4 and Chrome 2; those top 2 browsers are far superior to FF3 and IE8. There&#8217;s a reason IE8 has under 2% of the market.</p>
<p>Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; give us this day our daily kool-aid i drank the kool-aid: clutching my dixie cup of apple goodness</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; give us this day our daily kool-aid i drank the kool-aid: clutching my dixie cup of apple goodness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Paul Thurrott: Safari is From Apple, Therefore I Hate It: I Don’t Like Apple’s Products, They Shouldn’t Either So let’s see what pearls of wisdom we [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Paul Thurrott: Safari is From Apple, Therefore I Hate It: I Don’t Like Apple’s Products, They Shouldn’t Either So let’s see what pearls of wisdom we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WB</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340811</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what I don&#039;t understand. Thurrott claims the curved display looks better on a TV than on a PC monitor. WTF? Why? They&#039;re basically the same thing, except a TV is generally larger.

What&#039;s his logic here? Am I missing something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t understand. Thurrott claims the curved display looks better on a TV than on a PC monitor. WTF? Why? They&#8217;re basically the same thing, except a TV is generally larger.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s his logic here? Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Vyder</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vyder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo?

A nicely written article, though I do not agree to a couple of points

Cheers,
Vyder]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo?</p>
<p>A nicely written article, though I do not agree to a couple of points</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Vyder</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Aves</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Aves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My favourite comment from Thurrot, though not in this article:

&quot;the Dock is a usability nightmare, with overlapping functionality (it contains shortcuts for both running and certain non-running applications&quot;

Is that not exactly what Windows 7 does? Oh wait, I&#039;m sorry, in Windows 7, it &quot;minimizes the number of UI locations you need to visit to get work done.&quot;

Shut up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite comment from Thurrot, though not in this article:</p>
<p>&#8220;the Dock is a usability nightmare, with overlapping functionality (it contains shortcuts for both running and certain non-running applications&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that not exactly what Windows 7 does? Oh wait, I&#8217;m sorry, in Windows 7, it &#8220;minimizes the number of UI locations you need to visit to get work done.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly App Store Picks: Feb. 28, 2009 - TheAppleBlog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weekly App Store Picks: Feb. 28, 2009 - TheAppleBlog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] My favorite post from TheAppleBlog this week came from Tom Reetsman. Tom decided to take journalist and Microsoft-zealot Paul Thurrott to task in an amusing dissection of Thurrott&#8217;s Safari 4 Beta review. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My favorite post from TheAppleBlog this week came from Tom Reetsman. Tom decided to take journalist and Microsoft-zealot Paul Thurrott to task in an amusing dissection of Thurrott&#8217;s Safari 4 Beta review. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MesssengerBoy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MesssengerBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think your assessment of Mr. Thurrott&#039;s opinion is right on target. Sounds like he hates Apple more than I hate Microsoft. I&#039;m a fairly proficient Windows end-user because I&#039;m forced to use a PC and Windows XP at work along with Office 2007 and IE7. I&#039;m using Safari 4 on my old PowerBook right now and I love it. In fact, I like it better than Firefox, and way better than IE7 on Windows. I think our friend Paul, just needs to move out of the fast lane and let us pull ahead of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your assessment of Mr. Thurrott&#8217;s opinion is right on target. Sounds like he hates Apple more than I hate Microsoft. I&#8217;m a fairly proficient Windows end-user because I&#8217;m forced to use a PC and Windows XP at work along with Office 2007 and IE7. I&#8217;m using Safari 4 on my old PowerBook right now and I love it. In fact, I like it better than Firefox, and way better than IE7 on Windows. I think our friend Paul, just needs to move out of the fast lane and let us pull ahead of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Khalsa</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravi Khalsa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t get giddy... and who is Hannah Montana? Is that a Windows thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get giddy&#8230; and who is Hannah Montana? Is that a Windows thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Myekie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Myekie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing that bugs me about Thurott is why can&#039;t he just make a comment about Apple products without the insults Aimed at Apple customers. Paul does write some good articles but he just shoots himself in the foot with this kinda &quot;locker room&quot; attitude. There are many Computer users out there that actually use multi platforms to develop their work. In this day and age I don&#039;t see why Paul must bring the hate. My advice to Paul would be to keep strictly to the facts. Sure he doesn&#039;t have to like Apple products or Apple customers but he should steer clear of the blatant Bias and Slurs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that bugs me about Thurott is why can&#8217;t he just make a comment about Apple products without the insults Aimed at Apple customers. Paul does write some good articles but he just shoots himself in the foot with this kinda &#8220;locker room&#8221; attitude. There are many Computer users out there that actually use multi platforms to develop their work. In this day and age I don&#8217;t see why Paul must bring the hate. My advice to Paul would be to keep strictly to the facts. Sure he doesn&#8217;t have to like Apple products or Apple customers but he should steer clear of the blatant Bias and Slurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  Paul Thurrott: Safari is From Apple, Therefore I Hate It Paul Thurrott has weighed in with his opinion of the new Safari 4 update, and he&#8217;s not impressed. While no [...] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Paul Thurrott: Safari is From Apple, Therefore I Hate It Paul Thurrott has weighed in with his opinion of the new Safari 4 update, and he&#8217;s not impressed. While no [...] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess web standards and the Acid 3 test don&#039;t matter to Thurott, either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess web standards and the Acid 3 test don&#8217;t matter to Thurott, either.</p>
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		<title>By: hcreativos</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/paul-thurrott-safari-is-from-apple-therefore-i-hate-it/#comment-340801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hcreativos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this guy dated Steve Jobs once and got angry because he never called back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this guy dated Steve Jobs once and got angry because he never called back.</p>
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