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	<title>Comments on: On Subsidization: AT&amp;T is Not Ripping Off iPhone 3G Owners</title>
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		<title>By: Se Mus</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348448</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348447</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: It Must Be Nice to Be Verizon &#187; Shai Perednik.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It Must Be Nice to Be Verizon &#187; Shai Perednik.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] must be nice to utilize the same pricing and subsidy strategies as AT&amp;T, but get to remain above the fray while AT&amp;T takes the heat for what the whole industry is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] must be nice to utilize the same pricing and subsidy strategies as AT&amp;T, but get to remain above the fray while AT&amp;T takes the heat for what the whole industry is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It Must Be Nice to Be Verizon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It Must Be Nice to Be Verizon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] must be nice to utilize the same pricing and subsidy strategies as AT&amp;T, but get to remain above the fray while AT&amp;T takes the heat for what the whole industry is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] must be nice to utilize the same pricing and subsidy strategies as AT&amp;T, but get to remain above the fray while AT&amp;T takes the heat for what the whole industry is [...]</p>
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		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smartphones: the Ultimate Model for Green Cars?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] with conventional cars). This is similar to the way we end up repaying phone carriers&#8217; device subsidies through monthly payments over a set contract [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: david amenyo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348443</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: R. U. Kidding</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R. U. Kidding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously, isn&#039;t AT&amp;T making enough off of all those minutes with all those iPhone customers? Apple, c&#039;mon. I had one of the first iPhones ever to come out, then dropped it in my Big Gulp (that was a $399 Big Gulp). So, last year I just got a cheap phone through AT&amp;T. They tell me now I&#039;ll be eligible for an upgrade to the iPhone3GS in August 2010? R. U. Kidding? Just another reason I&#039;ve never liked AT&amp;T. Apple, get another long distance carrier. I&#039;ll bet they&#039;d be more than happy just to make a mint off of all the new customers through monthly charges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, isn&#8217;t AT&amp;T making enough off of all those minutes with all those iPhone customers? Apple, c&#8217;mon. I had one of the first iPhones ever to come out, then dropped it in my Big Gulp (that was a $399 Big Gulp). So, last year I just got a cheap phone through AT&amp;T. They tell me now I&#8217;ll be eligible for an upgrade to the iPhone3GS in August 2010? R. U. Kidding? Just another reason I&#8217;ve never liked AT&amp;T. Apple, get another long distance carrier. I&#8217;ll bet they&#8217;d be more than happy just to make a mint off of all the new customers through monthly charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple News &#187; 3, 2, 1: We Have iPhone 3G S Launch!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple News &#187; 3, 2, 1: We Have iPhone 3G S Launch!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the country &#8212; the iPhone 3G S is already being doled out to anxious customers. Despite the bumpy upgrade plan that has been laid ahead of many current iPhone owners, there are still lines at some [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the country &#8212; the iPhone 3G S is already being doled out to anxious customers. Despite the bumpy upgrade plan that has been laid ahead of many current iPhone owners, there are still lines at some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 3, 2, 1: We Have iPhone 3G S Launch!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3, 2, 1: We Have iPhone 3G S Launch!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the country &#8212; the iPhone 3G S is already being doled out to anxious customers. Despite the bumpy upgrade plan that has been laid ahead of many current iPhone owners, there are still lines at some [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: eezing</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/on-subsidization-att-is-not-ripping-off-iphone-3g-owners/#comment-348439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eezing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s where this article goes south:

&quot;At best, they’ve only “earned back” half the $400 subsidy, yet they somehow feel entitled to it all, as if AT&amp;T should just swallow the remaining $200.&quot;

I don&#039;t understand why someone hasn&#039;t argued this point:

The iPhone market price (sold without service) per unit does not equal Apple&#039;s returns per unit from an iPhone sold with service.  In other terms, Apple makes more money off of an iPhone sold without service on a per unit basis than in any other case; however, Apple makes more money as a whole through At&amp;t because the amount of units sold is far greater. That being said, that the kick back that goes to Apple from At&amp;t is considerably less on a per unit basis; furthermore, it does not equal $600 per unit. 

Simple: Supply &amp; Demand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s where this article goes south:</p>
<p>&#8220;At best, they’ve only “earned back” half the $400 subsidy, yet they somehow feel entitled to it all, as if AT&amp;T should just swallow the remaining $200.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why someone hasn&#8217;t argued this point:</p>
<p>The iPhone market price (sold without service) per unit does not equal Apple&#8217;s returns per unit from an iPhone sold with service.  In other terms, Apple makes more money off of an iPhone sold without service on a per unit basis than in any other case; however, Apple makes more money as a whole through At&amp;t because the amount of units sold is far greater. That being said, that the kick back that goes to Apple from At&amp;t is considerably less on a per unit basis; furthermore, it does not equal $600 per unit. </p>
<p>Simple: Supply &amp; Demand.</p>
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