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	<title>Comments on: No Flash on Your iPhone? How About Silverlight, Instead?</title>
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		<title>By: Searcher</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-589271</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use this link http://www.abyty.com/browser as alternative solution to get silverlight and flash application on any iDevices. It little bit ugly and not have sound, but working in basic on iPhone and iPod too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use this link <a href="http://www.abyty.com/browser" rel="nofollow">http://www.abyty.com/browser</a> as alternative solution to get silverlight and flash application on any iDevices. It little bit ugly and not have sound, but working in basic on iPhone and iPod too.</p>
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		<title>By: The Video Streaming Format War Heats Up &#124; Home Office / Small Business Center</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Video Streaming Format War Heats Up &#124; Home Office / Small Business Center]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] No Flash on Your iPhone? How About Silverlight, Instead?. &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; HOSB RSS Feed powered by shantz-wp-prefix-suffix [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Google Tablet vs iPad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Tablet vs iPad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] future company developing new web standards or software will either have to work with Apple &#8211; as Microsoft did with their Silverlight runtime &#8211; or deal with the potential consequences of losing access to millions of mobile [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] future company developing new web standards or software will either have to work with Apple &#8211; as Microsoft did with their Silverlight runtime &#8211; or deal with the potential consequences of losing access to millions of mobile [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leef</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saying that Flash Player is buggy &amp; crashtastic is like blaming Apple for app crashes on the desktop.  Flash Player is a runtime platform, you can write buggy crashtastic apps with it, or powerful stable apps with it.  It&#039;s up to your skill as a developer, just like with any other object oriented development language &amp; tools.  The fact that you experience buggy flash apps enough to care means that Flash is being used that frequently, and unfortunately by many poor developers.  HTML &amp; Javascript can just as easily crash your browser, perhaps more so because HTML &amp; Javascript do NOT have  compile-time error capture.  Flash Player 10.1 will have a global error handler, so if used properly by the developer should not crash unhandled.  And it&#039;s just good sense for a browser to sandbox itself against plugin crashes, anyone notice how Safari 3 crashed far less than Safari 4?  Was that Adobe&#039;s fault?  Did they forget to remind Apple to maintain a stable plugin environment?  The same problems encountered by Flash developers, and their audience will exist independently of the language used.  But the Flash team has a nice head start, you still can&#039;t do A LOT with HTML5 &amp; JS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying that Flash Player is buggy &amp; crashtastic is like blaming Apple for app crashes on the desktop.  Flash Player is a runtime platform, you can write buggy crashtastic apps with it, or powerful stable apps with it.  It&#8217;s up to your skill as a developer, just like with any other object oriented development language &amp; tools.  The fact that you experience buggy flash apps enough to care means that Flash is being used that frequently, and unfortunately by many poor developers.  HTML &amp; Javascript can just as easily crash your browser, perhaps more so because HTML &amp; Javascript do NOT have  compile-time error capture.  Flash Player 10.1 will have a global error handler, so if used properly by the developer should not crash unhandled.  And it&#8217;s just good sense for a browser to sandbox itself against plugin crashes, anyone notice how Safari 3 crashed far less than Safari 4?  Was that Adobe&#8217;s fault?  Did they forget to remind Apple to maintain a stable plugin environment?  The same problems encountered by Flash developers, and their audience will exist independently of the language used.  But the Flash team has a nice head start, you still can&#8217;t do A LOT with HTML5 &amp; JS.</p>
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		<title>By: The iPad Just Might Have Flash, But What About Silverlight? Why Have Apps Where A Browser Would Work?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The iPad Just Might Have Flash, But What About Silverlight? Why Have Apps Where A Browser Would Work?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] quite low, at least in the short term. Silverlight took 3 years to reach the iPhone, just in demo form.So, even if Apple does allow Flash, which is not at all settled at the moment, it will still break [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] quite low, at least in the short term. Silverlight took 3 years to reach the iPhone, just in demo form.So, even if Apple does allow Flash, which is not at all settled at the moment, it will still break [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New Apple Tablet? - Page 3 - EmiratesMac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Apple Tablet? - Page 3 - EmiratesMac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to have loaded a flash ad.&quot;  Meanwhile, Adobe has been working on a workaround, also there are other solutions too, and then HTML 5 is around the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to have loaded a flash ad.&quot;  Meanwhile, Adobe has been working on a workaround, also there are other solutions too, and then HTML 5 is around the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Oli mentioned. This announcement has absolutely nothing to do with Silverlight. It has everything to do with IIS SmoothStreaming which is a server side technology. In this context think of it as a transcoder. You are on an iPhone so it serves you a video that the iPhone can handle. Netflix support relies on Silverlight plugin because of the DRM that is used in on the video. 

What I&#039;m hoping is that large events that use IIS SmoothStreaming (DNC, Olympics) will not use DRM so that they can be streamed to devices that don&#039;t have the appropriate plugins (mobile phones, TVs, game consoles, etc). I&#039;m perfectly comfortable with them using Silverlight for premium features (multiple audio streams, multiple angles, Pic-In-Pic, subtitles, etc)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Oli mentioned. This announcement has absolutely nothing to do with Silverlight. It has everything to do with IIS SmoothStreaming which is a server side technology. In this context think of it as a transcoder. You are on an iPhone so it serves you a video that the iPhone can handle. Netflix support relies on Silverlight plugin because of the DRM that is used in on the video. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m hoping is that large events that use IIS SmoothStreaming (DNC, Olympics) will not use DRM so that they can be streamed to devices that don&#8217;t have the appropriate plugins (mobile phones, TVs, game consoles, etc). I&#8217;m perfectly comfortable with them using Silverlight for premium features (multiple audio streams, multiple angles, Pic-In-Pic, subtitles, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom B</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling BS. Flash sucks equally on Windows. Adobe is just out of touch with users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling BS. Flash sucks equally on Windows. Adobe is just out of touch with users.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone know if silverlight support means netflix streaming support on the iphone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know if silverlight support means netflix streaming support on the iphone?</p>
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		<title>By: HereAndNow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HereAndNow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With RIM&#039;s acquisition of Torch Mobile, virtually all &quot;native&quot; smartphone browsers will be WebKit based:

iPhone = WebKit
Android = WebKit
WebOS = WebKit
Symbian = WebKit
Blackberry = WebKit (soon)
WinMo = WebKit (with a 3rd-party browser)

WebKit brings great HTML5 support to mobile devices. Fennec &amp; Opera Mobile are also expected to provide great HTML5 support.

Streaming with HTML video seems like the best &amp; easiest way to get video to smartphones, since it eliminates the need for CPU intensive &amp; battery draining addons like Flash &amp; Silverlight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With RIM&#8217;s acquisition of Torch Mobile, virtually all &#8220;native&#8221; smartphone browsers will be WebKit based:</p>
<p>iPhone = WebKit<br />
Android = WebKit<br />
WebOS = WebKit<br />
Symbian = WebKit<br />
Blackberry = WebKit (soon)<br />
WinMo = WebKit (with a 3rd-party browser)</p>
<p>WebKit brings great HTML5 support to mobile devices. Fennec &amp; Opera Mobile are also expected to provide great HTML5 support.</p>
<p>Streaming with HTML video seems like the best &amp; easiest way to get video to smartphones, since it eliminates the need for CPU intensive &amp; battery draining addons like Flash &amp; Silverlight.</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silverlight isn&#039;t even part of the picture. All the work is done at the &quot;Smooth Streaming&quot; end (on IIS). The only reason Silverlight should be mentioned is because that capability was added to IIS for Silverlight. That&#039;s it!

The article is misleading in pretending that we&#039;ll see the Silverlight runtime on the iPhone, while Adobe couldn&#039;t do that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverlight isn&#8217;t even part of the picture. All the work is done at the &#8220;Smooth Streaming&#8221; end (on IIS). The only reason Silverlight should be mentioned is because that capability was added to IIS for Silverlight. That&#8217;s it!</p>
<p>The article is misleading in pretending that we&#8217;ll see the Silverlight runtime on the iPhone, while Adobe couldn&#8217;t do that.</p>
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		<title>By: 11/27/2009 Update &#171; iPhone News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[11/27/2009 Update &#171; iPhone News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] No Flash on Your iPhone? How About Silverlight, Instead? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No Flash on Your iPhone? How About Silverlight, Instead? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Rix</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Rix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If by now you don&#039;t understand the purpose Flash serves on the internet, I don&#039;t know if you ever will(hint: it&#039;s not banner ads or information heavy sites). 

Also, keep in mind that flash is mostly just slow and awful on Macs... On decent PCs it actually runs quite well. I don&#039;t know whether it&#039;s Adobe or Apple that screwed up(I&#039;m guessing both), but it&#039;s a well known fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by now you don&#8217;t understand the purpose Flash serves on the internet, I don&#8217;t know if you ever will(hint: it&#8217;s not banner ads or information heavy sites). </p>
<p>Also, keep in mind that flash is mostly just slow and awful on Macs&#8230; On decent PCs it actually runs quite well. I don&#8217;t know whether it&#8217;s Adobe or Apple that screwed up(I&#8217;m guessing both), but it&#8217;s a well known fact.</p>
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		<title>By: str1f3</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[str1f3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d wish these studio big wigs will understand something: if we want your media, we can take it whenever we want. With or without Flash or Silverlight. This is the worst kept secret on the net. Eventually you will have to trust your users and hope they do the right thing.  

If they want to use flashy animations then do it with open standards in HTML5 and not proprietary solutions.

Silverlight is going nowhere and Flash is dying a slow death. Thank [insert preferred deity here].]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d wish these studio big wigs will understand something: if we want your media, we can take it whenever we want. With or without Flash or Silverlight. This is the worst kept secret on the net. Eventually you will have to trust your users and hope they do the right thing.  </p>
<p>If they want to use flashy animations then do it with open standards in HTML5 and not proprietary solutions.</p>
<p>Silverlight is going nowhere and Flash is dying a slow death. Thank [insert preferred deity here].</p>
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		<title>By: Apple News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/no-flash-on-your-iphone-how-about-silverlight-instead/#comment-375385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As mentioned on 9to5mac.com, This is a server side technology that only works for non-interactive movies.  The IIS server simply serves up a MP4 file that the iPhone can read instead of a silverlight file.

IT isn&#039;t that different from youtube serving up Mp4s on the iPhone
http://9to5mac.com/silverlight-on-iPhone-35435]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned on 9to5mac.com, This is a server side technology that only works for non-interactive movies.  The IIS server simply serves up a MP4 file that the iPhone can read instead of a silverlight file.</p>
<p>IT isn&#8217;t that different from youtube serving up Mp4s on the iPhone<br />
<a href="http://9to5mac.com/silverlight-on-iPhone-35435" rel="nofollow">http://9to5mac.com/silverlight-on-iPhone-35435</a></p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Silverlight isn&#039;t really needed.  They could just directly stream h.264 video directly to the browser or to a regular iPhone app, and it would be all good.  And there&#039;s no mention of the usual DRM that broadcasters just MUST have otherwise they would go out of business because of piracy, so it&#039;s unlikely the implementation would support DRM on the iPhone (just like they didn&#039;t bother with it on PPC Macs).

This will be just more of the &#039;works best on Windows, kinda sorta works elsewhere, might work for you&#039; stuff MS keeps putting out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Silverlight isn&#8217;t really needed.  They could just directly stream h.264 video directly to the browser or to a regular iPhone app, and it would be all good.  And there&#8217;s no mention of the usual DRM that broadcasters just MUST have otherwise they would go out of business because of piracy, so it&#8217;s unlikely the implementation would support DRM on the iPhone (just like they didn&#8217;t bother with it on PPC Macs).</p>
<p>This will be just more of the &#8216;works best on Windows, kinda sorta works elsewhere, might work for you&#8217; stuff MS keeps putting out.</p>
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