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		<title>By: shawn!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shawn!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow...this reviewer needs help...he understandings nothing about needs in the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;this reviewer needs help&#8230;he understandings nothing about needs in the market.</p>
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		<title>By: MacMiniAdmin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MacMiniAdmin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OS X Server is very simliar to the normal operating system. For the most part, OS X can do everything the server version can. The biggest seller in my opinion is the hardware changes, specifically the memory and disk configuration. I recommend immediately setting up RAID 1 mirroring (http://www.macminiworld.net/blog/mac-mini-server-raid1-configuration)

If your considering a server I recommend checking the Apple specs for features you want. There are some neat tools, but remember with a little skill you can normally replicate that stuff using open source software. The back end is -- after all -- UNIX.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OS X Server is very simliar to the normal operating system. For the most part, OS X can do everything the server version can. The biggest seller in my opinion is the hardware changes, specifically the memory and disk configuration. I recommend immediately setting up RAID 1 mirroring (<a href="http://www.macminiworld.net/blog/mac-mini-server-raid1-configuration" rel="nofollow">http://www.macminiworld.net/blog/mac-mini-server-raid1-configuration</a>)</p>
<p>If your considering a server I recommend checking the Apple specs for features you want. There are some neat tools, but remember with a little skill you can normally replicate that stuff using open source software. The back end is &#8212; after all &#8212; UNIX.</p>
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		<title>By: Regi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Regi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conrad says: &quot;Do you need to run “Snow Leopard Server”, or can you run “Snow Leopard” {the non-server version} as your server?&quot;

So, this is exactly the doubt I have now,  I mean for a home or small business use. Any one could help with this doubt, please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conrad says: &#8220;Do you need to run “Snow Leopard Server”, or can you run “Snow Leopard” {the non-server version} as your server?&#8221;</p>
<p>So, this is exactly the doubt I have now,  I mean for a home or small business use. Any one could help with this doubt, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Frustrated OSX Server Admin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frustrated OSX Server Admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[REALLY?  Just &quot;set it&quot; and &quot;forget it.&quot; Hmm. You are dreaming.

Good Luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REALLY?  Just &#8220;set it&#8221; and &#8220;forget it.&#8221; Hmm. You are dreaming.</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Conrad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new Mac Mini server is a great idea. 

I would immediately pull the two 500GB drives, sell them on eBay, and install whatever size SSD drives I felt I needed, either in RAID 0, with an external back up like a 2TB drive via Firewire, or back up over ethernet.  Another option, that would keep the whole package tiny, is to use RAID 1.

SSD&#039;s make a Mac Mini blazing fast, and they are reliable.  

RAID 0 would nearly double your access speed.

I&#039;m not sure RAID 1 would be needed with reliable SSD drives, but on a server you need some redundancy don&#039;t you?  I&#039;d lean towards RAID 0 and remote storage over ethernet--which puts your &quot;back-up&quot; at a different location for true redundancy.

The big advantage of the SSD drives is they run much cooler than hot running spinning disks in the poor thermal environment of the Mini.    

I don&#039;t enjoy checking temperatures constantly.  I use software to spin up the fans to manage heat with the hotter conventional disk drives.  I&#039;d rather rely on cooler, more reliable Solid State Drives, and save energy too.  

So the last issue is cost.  It is still cheaper to use a Mac Mini server with SSD&#039;s than any other brand server with SSD&#039;s.  For many applications a large SSD is not necessary--so size it appropriately.  

The real question is this:  

Do you need to run &quot;Snow Leopard Server&quot;, or can you run &quot;Snow Leopard&quot; {the non-server version} as your server?  

That would keep costs down and still provide great performance. 

Older, slower Mac Mini&#039;s can do the job as well as the new Server Version.

The newest, fastest processor has one advantage: 

----with Solid State Drives, a faster processor does make a significant difference keeping the data moving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Mac Mini server is a great idea. </p>
<p>I would immediately pull the two 500GB drives, sell them on eBay, and install whatever size SSD drives I felt I needed, either in RAID 0, with an external back up like a 2TB drive via Firewire, or back up over ethernet.  Another option, that would keep the whole package tiny, is to use RAID 1.</p>
<p>SSD&#8217;s make a Mac Mini blazing fast, and they are reliable.  </p>
<p>RAID 0 would nearly double your access speed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure RAID 1 would be needed with reliable SSD drives, but on a server you need some redundancy don&#8217;t you?  I&#8217;d lean towards RAID 0 and remote storage over ethernet&#8211;which puts your &#8220;back-up&#8221; at a different location for true redundancy.</p>
<p>The big advantage of the SSD drives is they run much cooler than hot running spinning disks in the poor thermal environment of the Mini.    </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t enjoy checking temperatures constantly.  I use software to spin up the fans to manage heat with the hotter conventional disk drives.  I&#8217;d rather rely on cooler, more reliable Solid State Drives, and save energy too.  </p>
<p>So the last issue is cost.  It is still cheaper to use a Mac Mini server with SSD&#8217;s than any other brand server with SSD&#8217;s.  For many applications a large SSD is not necessary&#8211;so size it appropriately.  </p>
<p>The real question is this:  </p>
<p>Do you need to run &#8220;Snow Leopard Server&#8221;, or can you run &#8220;Snow Leopard&#8221; {the non-server version} as your server?  </p>
<p>That would keep costs down and still provide great performance. </p>
<p>Older, slower Mac Mini&#8217;s can do the job as well as the new Server Version.</p>
<p>The newest, fastest processor has one advantage: </p>
<p>&#8212;-with Solid State Drives, a faster processor does make a significant difference keeping the data moving.</p>
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		<title>By: BitGolum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BitGolum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The precious will be mine. Oh yes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The precious will be mine. Oh yes!</p>
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		<title>By: Saber</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really (matwyn)???  You must be a robot that never sleeps.  Since you would have to install one of these every 3 business days, to install over 40 in just 6 months (stretching the truth a bit, hey?). Do you just install and run? Leave the configuration and support for someone else to clean-up.  No wonder you think this is great.

I haven&#039;t seen a post about backing this thing up.  Can anyone say RAID or at least mirrored drives?  How about the cost of the external drive for Time machine?

This is a CHEAP solution.  I&#039;m not so sure how great it is.  I guess if you don&#039;t mind the downtime when a drive fails or you&#039;re just going to drop $599 to replace the system at the first hardware failure.   Maybe it&#039;s great if your reselling Mac minis.  As a long term solution for a small business that might decide to put all of their business data in one basket, I don&#039;t think it a good idea.

Spend another $800 - $1000 for external storage or maybe a fail-over Mac mini and then you might have a solution a business can rely on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really (matwyn)???  You must be a robot that never sleeps.  Since you would have to install one of these every 3 business days, to install over 40 in just 6 months (stretching the truth a bit, hey?). Do you just install and run? Leave the configuration and support for someone else to clean-up.  No wonder you think this is great.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen a post about backing this thing up.  Can anyone say RAID or at least mirrored drives?  How about the cost of the external drive for Time machine?</p>
<p>This is a CHEAP solution.  I&#8217;m not so sure how great it is.  I guess if you don&#8217;t mind the downtime when a drive fails or you&#8217;re just going to drop $599 to replace the system at the first hardware failure.   Maybe it&#8217;s great if your reselling Mac minis.  As a long term solution for a small business that might decide to put all of their business data in one basket, I don&#8217;t think it a good idea.</p>
<p>Spend another $800 &#8211; $1000 for external storage or maybe a fail-over Mac mini and then you might have a solution a business can rely on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall Tawes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kendall Tawes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlimited License Mac OS X Sever used to cost $1000 by itself. For that price I now get a Mac Mini with two 500GB drives too. I would say that&#039;s a great deal indeed.

And yes the base Mac Mini should be $499. There is no reason for it to be $599 anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlimited License Mac OS X Sever used to cost $1000 by itself. For that price I now get a Mac Mini with two 500GB drives too. I would say that&#8217;s a great deal indeed.</p>
<p>And yes the base Mac Mini should be $499. There is no reason for it to be $599 anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: DBX</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DBX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll join in the praises of the new server.  It&#039;s the first time in five or six years that Apple has put out a headless Mac that meets my needs.  It&#039;s good value for money, it has a low enough power draw to leave switched on which I&#039;d think is a rather important spec for a server, and having a server OS that doesn&#039;t require an IT guy is kind of nice too.

The only thing overpriced here is the standard Mac Mini.  $599 was steep before -- given the new server and iMac choices, it&#039;s inexplicable now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll join in the praises of the new server.  It&#8217;s the first time in five or six years that Apple has put out a headless Mac that meets my needs.  It&#8217;s good value for money, it has a low enough power draw to leave switched on which I&#8217;d think is a rather important spec for a server, and having a server OS that doesn&#8217;t require an IT guy is kind of nice too.</p>
<p>The only thing overpriced here is the standard Mac Mini.  $599 was steep before &#8212; given the new server and iMac choices, it&#8217;s inexplicable now.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well here is someone with some very usefull information o nteh new mini servers:

http://www.macminicolo.net/state2009.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here is someone with some very usefull information o nteh new mini servers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.macminicolo.net/state2009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.macminicolo.net/state2009.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Higgsy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Higgsy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Raoul, I manage 12 servers, 3 states, and about 300 clients.  We do have Servers running windows, recently I compared 3 new Dell servers with appropriate MS licensing, and 3 Xserve&#039;s and after all was said and done the Xserve&#039;s were over $10,000.00 cheaper, had better hardware spec&#039;s and more functionality.  I will be deploying these new mac mini servers in large functional/departmental groups for some of the collaboration services they offer.  As for the SME and SMB these will be a hit, hide and watch!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Raoul, I manage 12 servers, 3 states, and about 300 clients.  We do have Servers running windows, recently I compared 3 new Dell servers with appropriate MS licensing, and 3 Xserve&#8217;s and after all was said and done the Xserve&#8217;s were over $10,000.00 cheaper, had better hardware spec&#8217;s and more functionality.  I will be deploying these new mac mini servers in large functional/departmental groups for some of the collaboration services they offer.  As for the SME and SMB these will be a hit, hide and watch!</p>
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		<title>By: chano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at this article and looking back over your published work so far it seems clear that you are trying to oust Meister Shill Enderle and earn your 30 pieces of silver from Ballmer, Gates and Co. 

Dishonest moron would be a gentle understatement, in describing you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at this article and looking back over your published work so far it seems clear that you are trying to oust Meister Shill Enderle and earn your 30 pieces of silver from Ballmer, Gates and Co. </p>
<p>Dishonest moron would be a gentle understatement, in describing you.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that this Article by Charles, with all due respect, should have a follow  up article by Raoul. He has come across as much more knowledgeable and informed. I for one would love to learn more about the use, setting up and deployment of a Mac Mini Server, and the benefits to be had. Please consider doing a follow up article Raoul!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this Article by Charles, with all due respect, should have a follow  up article by Raoul. He has come across as much more knowledgeable and informed. I for one would love to learn more about the use, setting up and deployment of a Mac Mini Server, and the benefits to be had. Please consider doing a follow up article Raoul!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoran</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a good video explaining what a server is useful for: http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/podcast/leopardserverquicktours/quicktours-01_intro.m4v

There are many short videos in that podcast, all about OS X Server (http://www.apple.com/podcasts/leopardserverquicktours/leopard_quick_tour.xml)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a good video explaining what a server is useful for: <a href="http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/podcast/leopardserverquicktours/quicktours-01_intro.m4v" rel="nofollow">http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/podcast/leopardserverquicktours/quicktours-01_intro.m4v</a></p>
<p>There are many short videos in that podcast, all about OS X Server (<a href="http://www.apple.com/podcasts/leopardserverquicktours/leopard_quick_tour.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/podcasts/leopardserverquicktours/leopard_quick_tour.xml</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shaun,

Mac OS X Server comes with a collaboration &quot;site&quot; (a Wiki), mail server, iCal server, Address Book server, etc. This means you can have shared calendars and central contact lists just like big companies have with Exchange.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,</p>
<p>Mac OS X Server comes with a collaboration &#8220;site&#8221; (a Wiki), mail server, iCal server, Address Book server, etc. This means you can have shared calendars and central contact lists just like big companies have with Exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun C</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/new-mac-mini-runs-os-x-server-for-999/#comment-359842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shaun C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be a lot of experts commenting, so I figured this would be a good time to ask.

Setting a computer up as a server is always something I&#039;ve heard about, but I&#039;ve never had a reason to look into it. Seeing the new Mac Mini Server perked my interest, but I&#039;m not sure how I (or my small business) could benefit from it.

Could someone please explain to me, or give me a few links, pointing out some amazing uses of something like this? Or why Mac OS X Server and not just normal Mac OS X?

Is it strictly for running a web server (say, like Apache or something?) Or, would this benefit our workplace (network of about 5-6 apple computers, apple tv, etc).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a lot of experts commenting, so I figured this would be a good time to ask.</p>
<p>Setting a computer up as a server is always something I&#8217;ve heard about, but I&#8217;ve never had a reason to look into it. Seeing the new Mac Mini Server perked my interest, but I&#8217;m not sure how I (or my small business) could benefit from it.</p>
<p>Could someone please explain to me, or give me a few links, pointing out some amazing uses of something like this? Or why Mac OS X Server and not just normal Mac OS X?</p>
<p>Is it strictly for running a web server (say, like Apache or something?) Or, would this benefit our workplace (network of about 5-6 apple computers, apple tv, etc).</p>
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