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	<title>Comments on: Mac Users Left Out of the Microsoft Office 2010 Launch Party</title>
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		<title>By: dudewtf</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351810</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dudewtf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mac User.. wtf? You do understand that Windows and Unix (and its variants, including OS X) are about as different as operating systems come, and that a lot of effort is involved in altering software to run properly within that environment?  And you expect MS to release Windows and Mac versions at the same time??  Also there&#039;s this thing called market share.. and Mac still doesn&#039;t have the majority of it I&#039;m afraid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mac User.. wtf? You do understand that Windows and Unix (and its variants, including OS X) are about as different as operating systems come, and that a lot of effort is involved in altering software to run properly within that environment?  And you expect MS to release Windows and Mac versions at the same time??  Also there&#8217;s this thing called market share.. and Mac still doesn&#8217;t have the majority of it I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac User</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac User]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand Microsoft they should just get on and build software no matter which bit of hardware you buy to stick it on, instead they seem to be jumping in the middle and getting involved in hardware wars that really have nothing to do with them....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand Microsoft they should just get on and build software no matter which bit of hardware you buy to stick it on, instead they seem to be jumping in the middle and getting involved in hardware wars that really have nothing to do with them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: silverfox</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverfox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No &quot;DUDE&quot;, if YOU knew about computers then you would know that OS X is much better than windows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No &#8220;DUDE&#8221;, if YOU knew about computers then you would know that OS X is much better than windows.</p>
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		<title>By: viv</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[viv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude if you knew about computers you would know that windows is better and word is too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude if you knew about computers you would know that windows is better and word is too.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reply probably comes far too late, but anyhow....

Whether or not you should upgrade to Office 2008 depends on a couple of things. If you use third party apps such as MathType for equations or EndNote for reference and bibliography management, then I would say don&#039;t upgrade. The lack of VBA support in Office 2008 has severely limited the functionality of many third party applications. 

If you are looking for a speed improvement, then you will likely find a small improvement in office 2008 since it does not require Rosetta. However, the speed gains have been pretty slight from my experience. I have both 2004 and 2008 installed on my computers and I quite often opt for 2004.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reply probably comes far too late, but anyhow&#8230;.</p>
<p>Whether or not you should upgrade to Office 2008 depends on a couple of things. If you use third party apps such as MathType for equations or EndNote for reference and bibliography management, then I would say don&#8217;t upgrade. The lack of VBA support in Office 2008 has severely limited the functionality of many third party applications. </p>
<p>If you are looking for a speed improvement, then you will likely find a small improvement in office 2008 since it does not require Rosetta. However, the speed gains have been pretty slight from my experience. I have both 2004 and 2008 installed on my computers and I quite often opt for 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: excel templates</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[excel templates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm! It&#039;s sound quite interesting. But for me I&#039;m not max user though. But when I read your article it was quite interesting I can say. It&#039;s quite new knowledge for me. Nice post though Please keep up a good work. All the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm! It&#8217;s sound quite interesting. But for me I&#8217;m not max user though. But when I read your article it was quite interesting I can say. It&#8217;s quite new knowledge for me. Nice post though Please keep up a good work. All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: bap</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a Word Power User. I have written over a thousand macros, forms, and modules over the years. I find that MS has purposefully emasculated the Mac version and spoke with several people at MS that confirmed it in the past, especially back in the Word 6 days. At one point the Mac version briefly worked faster than the Windows, but Gates stopped that. 

I have found VBA to be unstable on Office 2001 and 2004, and have bought several titanium laptops just to allow me to continue to run 2001 - the VBA iteration I like better. Some VBA functions just do not work as they are supposed to and I have had to write applescript patches for both versions. 

I find it hard to forgive MS for dropping VBA in the prior version. I do admit that they tried to drop it for the Windows version as well, but with a shift to .Net and WERE NOT ALLOWED TOO. The uproar was great on the Windows side and unfortunately too mild for them to take it seriously on the Mac side until their market share dropped and people started avoiding macros to maintain cross platform compatibility. 

I WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER MS PRODUCT UNTIL A WORKING VBA FOR MAC PRODUCT IS AVAILABLE. I have emailed the Mac BU in the past and offered to be a beta tester. 

Applescript is not designed to handle strings, text, and formatting like VBA can. Filemaker Pro would be a better choice, but I just don&#039;t have the energy to switch all of my documents to a new platform, though it would be the best long term approach. I am ornery and do not hanker towards bending over and using the windows version, which I would not be able to patch with Applescript.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Word Power User. I have written over a thousand macros, forms, and modules over the years. I find that MS has purposefully emasculated the Mac version and spoke with several people at MS that confirmed it in the past, especially back in the Word 6 days. At one point the Mac version briefly worked faster than the Windows, but Gates stopped that. </p>
<p>I have found VBA to be unstable on Office 2001 and 2004, and have bought several titanium laptops just to allow me to continue to run 2001 &#8211; the VBA iteration I like better. Some VBA functions just do not work as they are supposed to and I have had to write applescript patches for both versions. </p>
<p>I find it hard to forgive MS for dropping VBA in the prior version. I do admit that they tried to drop it for the Windows version as well, but with a shift to .Net and WERE NOT ALLOWED TOO. The uproar was great on the Windows side and unfortunately too mild for them to take it seriously on the Mac side until their market share dropped and people started avoiding macros to maintain cross platform compatibility. </p>
<p>I WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER MS PRODUCT UNTIL A WORKING VBA FOR MAC PRODUCT IS AVAILABLE. I have emailed the Mac BU in the past and offered to be a beta tester. </p>
<p>Applescript is not designed to handle strings, text, and formatting like VBA can. Filemaker Pro would be a better choice, but I just don&#8217;t have the energy to switch all of my documents to a new platform, though it would be the best long term approach. I am ornery and do not hanker towards bending over and using the windows version, which I would not be able to patch with Applescript.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351803</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Numbers can do trend lines as well as error bars. Click on the graph tool in the inspector and then click &quot;Advanced&quot; towards the bottom of the dialog box. The advanced tools appear and you can select trend lines of varying types (linear, logarithmic, polynomial, etc)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numbers can do trend lines as well as error bars. Click on the graph tool in the inspector and then click &#8220;Advanced&#8221; towards the bottom of the dialog box. The advanced tools appear and you can select trend lines of varying types (linear, logarithmic, polynomial, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, I love my Mac.  At work, however, I use a PC with Office 2003.  I&#039;m not a fan of the new Office 2007 or 2008 or whatever it is for PC.  I hate that my menus are gone in it, and within 5 minutes of trying to make a graph (granted, one with quite a bit of customization) in that version of Excel, I was cussing out my computer.  I spent about another 10 minutes trying to figure out how to get my standard menus back before giving up and going back to 2003.  I&#039;ve always thought the PC version of Office was superior to the Mac versions, which, in my opinion, is just one more way that MS is screwing over Mac users.  

For all of you who have wondered what Office does that iWork doesn&#039;t, I can&#039;t tell you that since I honestly haven&#039;t used the iWork products since they stopped coming free with new Macs (so, at least 5 years ago, if not more).  Back then, I found they were lacking functionality I was used to from Office, but maybe that has changed.  I&#039;m a huge Excel user; I probably use it for at least 2 hours a day at work, if not more.  I know I would not want to upgrade from Mac Office 2004 to 2008, as it no longer has VBA support, which I often utilize.  There are a number of other things that also translate to less feasible cross-platform sharing of documents between Mac Office 2008 and the PC versions.  

I personally am curious if iWork has the functionality I use on a daily basis.  I would assume there&#039;s no VBA support, but does Numbers (and the other iWork apps, for that matter) have any capability to automate tasks with some other language, say, AppleScript or better yet, C something, Java, etc.? (not that that does me any good if it&#039;s a document that needs to be cross-platform)  How about pivot tables, trend lines for graphs, statistical analysis add-ins, anything like Solver.  And, does Pages have automatic tables of contents like Word does, and the other auto-text features available in Word?  These are the big things that I&#039;d be looking for in iWork before considering making the switch from Office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I love my Mac.  At work, however, I use a PC with Office 2003.  I&#8217;m not a fan of the new Office 2007 or 2008 or whatever it is for PC.  I hate that my menus are gone in it, and within 5 minutes of trying to make a graph (granted, one with quite a bit of customization) in that version of Excel, I was cussing out my computer.  I spent about another 10 minutes trying to figure out how to get my standard menus back before giving up and going back to 2003.  I&#8217;ve always thought the PC version of Office was superior to the Mac versions, which, in my opinion, is just one more way that MS is screwing over Mac users.  </p>
<p>For all of you who have wondered what Office does that iWork doesn&#8217;t, I can&#8217;t tell you that since I honestly haven&#8217;t used the iWork products since they stopped coming free with new Macs (so, at least 5 years ago, if not more).  Back then, I found they were lacking functionality I was used to from Office, but maybe that has changed.  I&#8217;m a huge Excel user; I probably use it for at least 2 hours a day at work, if not more.  I know I would not want to upgrade from Mac Office 2004 to 2008, as it no longer has VBA support, which I often utilize.  There are a number of other things that also translate to less feasible cross-platform sharing of documents between Mac Office 2008 and the PC versions.  </p>
<p>I personally am curious if iWork has the functionality I use on a daily basis.  I would assume there&#8217;s no VBA support, but does Numbers (and the other iWork apps, for that matter) have any capability to automate tasks with some other language, say, AppleScript or better yet, C something, Java, etc.? (not that that does me any good if it&#8217;s a document that needs to be cross-platform)  How about pivot tables, trend lines for graphs, statistical analysis add-ins, anything like Solver.  And, does Pages have automatic tables of contents like Word does, and the other auto-text features available in Word?  These are the big things that I&#8217;d be looking for in iWork before considering making the switch from Office.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-users-left-out-of-the-microsoft-office-2010-launch-party/#comment-351801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimberley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey all you Office for Mac users, here&#039;s a novice&#039;s question for you:  My MacBook Pro currently has Office 2004 on it.  Do you recommend (or not) going to Office 2008?  I&#039;m clueless.  Advice welcomed gratefully.  --K.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all you Office for Mac users, here&#8217;s a novice&#8217;s question for you:  My MacBook Pro currently has Office 2004 on it.  Do you recommend (or not) going to Office 2008?  I&#8217;m clueless.  Advice welcomed gratefully.  &#8211;K.</p>
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