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		<title>By: Maratonda</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maratonda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not true:
&quot;For the rest of us average joes, who only need to create the occasional letter, resume, or report, I say check it out if it intrigues you (otherwise, it probably won’t be worth the bother).&quot;
Check out http://cv-templates.info for resume and CVs typeset with LaTeX on a Mac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not true:<br />
&#8220;For the rest of us average joes, who only need to create the occasional letter, resume, or report, I say check it out if it intrigues you (otherwise, it probably won’t be worth the bother).&#8221;<br />
Check out <a href="http://cv-templates.info" rel="nofollow">http://cv-templates.info</a> for resume and CVs typeset with LaTeX on a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Slater</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Slater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could answer a lot of these questions, but better yet, we have a wiki!
http://mactex-wiki.tug.org
The wiki goes beyond the mactex distribution, and is in fact run independently (by me).

As for the &quot;focusing on content&quot; thing... provided style files exist, you don&#039;t see format so much as structure in the document. True, you may not like seeing the command section, however, it has much more useful meaning to it than bold, slightly larger, and preceded by a number.

A quality editor precludes many syntax errors by providing keystrokes that match braces, etc. Further, for the faint of heart, a &quot;GUI interface to LaTeX&quot; is available through LyX, which provides a more visual experience while retaining the power LaTeX provides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could answer a lot of these questions, but better yet, we have a wiki!<br />
<a href="http://mactex-wiki.tug.org" rel="nofollow">http://mactex-wiki.tug.org</a><br />
The wiki goes beyond the mactex distribution, and is in fact run independently (by me).</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;focusing on content&#8221; thing&#8230; provided style files exist, you don&#8217;t see format so much as structure in the document. True, you may not like seeing the command section, however, it has much more useful meaning to it than bold, slightly larger, and preceded by a number.</p>
<p>A quality editor precludes many syntax errors by providing keystrokes that match braces, etc. Further, for the faint of heart, a &#8220;GUI interface to LaTeX&#8221; is available through LyX, which provides a more visual experience while retaining the power LaTeX provides.</p>
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		<title>By: James mortison</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312891</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James mortison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing about LateX letting you focus on the content -- I just don&#039;t understand that. Because it&#039;s far more distracting to have to type out the markup for bold or section heading than clicking one button in a word processor to apply that style. You spend more time typing and later debugging your LateX markup whereas in a word processor what you see is what you get... right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about LateX letting you focus on the content &#8212; I just don&#8217;t understand that. Because it&#8217;s far more distracting to have to type out the markup for bold or section heading than clicking one button in a word processor to apply that style. You spend more time typing and later debugging your LateX markup whereas in a word processor what you see is what you get&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: novice</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[novice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 16:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Blogger:

I recently downloaded your MacTex. While trying to typeset in TexShop, the program said that I was missing teTex or that I had the wrong path. As I would like to download MacTex - 2007, how do I uninstall the version from your page?

Thank you. I think you&#039;re doing a great job.

Best

Novice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Blogger:</p>
<p>I recently downloaded your MacTex. While trying to typeset in TexShop, the program said that I was missing teTex or that I had the wrong path. As I would like to download MacTex &#8211; 2007, how do I uninstall the version from your page?</p>
<p>Thank you. I think you&#8217;re doing a great job.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>Novice</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Felty</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Felty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also recently wrote a similar article, inspired by a really poorly written article that made it to the front page of &lt;a href=&#039;http://reddit.com&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reddit.com&lt;/a&gt;. You can read &lt;a href=&#039;http://umich.edu/~robfelty/academic/whylatex.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the article&lt;/a&gt; on my website.

I also think that this was a fairly well written summary of the pros and cons of LaTeX. I do have one more suggestion for a very helpful LaTeX related tool. For those who use bibtex to handle their bibliographies, you should check out jabref. It is a bibtex organizer written in java. It has a very intuitive UI, and can import and export all sorts of bibliographic formats like Endnote, RIS, ISI etc. very easily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also recently wrote a similar article, inspired by a really poorly written article that made it to the front page of <a href='http://reddit.com' rel="nofollow">reddit.com</a>. You can read <a href='http://umich.edu/~robfelty/academic/whylatex.html' rel="nofollow">the article</a> on my website.</p>
<p>I also think that this was a fairly well written summary of the pros and cons of LaTeX. I do have one more suggestion for a very helpful LaTeX related tool. For those who use bibtex to handle their bibliographies, you should check out jabref. It is a bibtex organizer written in java. It has a very intuitive UI, and can import and export all sorts of bibliographic formats like Endnote, RIS, ISI etc. very easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dario]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those interested in using the advanced features (ligatures, correct kerning tables, hyphenation, alternate glyphs, full Unicode support) of Mac OS fonts, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://scripts.sil.org/xetex/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XeTeX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is a must. The possibility offered by XeTeX to create documents using OpenType technology is another—often understated—advantage of the LaTeX/Mac OS combination. Structured content and typographic accuracy is definitely what sets LaTeX apart from most word processors. A short article I wrote on this topic (with downloadable sources and a comparison with font rendering in MS Word) may be of interest to some of your readers:

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://nitens.org/taraborelli/latex&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Beauty of LaTeX&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in using the advanced features (ligatures, correct kerning tables, hyphenation, alternate glyphs, full Unicode support) of Mac OS fonts, <strong><a href="http://scripts.sil.org/xetex/" rel="nofollow">XeTeX</a></strong> is a must. The possibility offered by XeTeX to create documents using OpenType technology is another—often understated—advantage of the LaTeX/Mac OS combination. Structured content and typographic accuracy is definitely what sets LaTeX apart from most word processors. A short article I wrote on this topic (with downloadable sources and a comparison with font rendering in MS Word) may be of interest to some of your readers:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://nitens.org/taraborelli/latex" rel="nofollow">The Beauty of LaTeX</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: the sum of my parts &#187; Blog Archive : Learning Laytex?? &#187; Learning Laytex??</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the sum of my parts &#187; Blog Archive : Learning Laytex?? &#187; Learning Laytex??]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The point of this post, however, was not to complain. I am actually looking for a bit of advice. I have just downloaded MacTex (a Laytex program) because I am supposed to use it somehow when I send in my next conference paper. Hmmm. It looks a wee bit complicated. I read some reviews on it and it seems that once you learn how, it is great for big projects (like a thesis, maybe?) and has a great bibliography thing too. So, my question&#8230; do I spend the time trying to figure it out? Is the program worth it? Or do I stick to Word and spend more time working on a bibliography??? And if I spend time learning this and use it for my thesis, will the printers even except it (good thing to find out first). Any suggestions? Tips? Reviews? [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The point of this post, however, was not to complain. I am actually looking for a bit of advice. I have just downloaded MacTex (a Laytex program) because I am supposed to use it somehow when I send in my next conference paper. Hmmm. It looks a wee bit complicated. I read some reviews on it and it seems that once you learn how, it is great for big projects (like a thesis, maybe?) and has a great bibliography thing too. So, my question&#8230; do I spend the time trying to figure it out? Is the program worth it? Or do I stick to Word and spend more time working on a bibliography??? And if I spend time learning this and use it for my thesis, will the printers even except it (good thing to find out first). Any suggestions? Tips? Reviews? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Laughton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Laughton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is also the Oztex suite of programs by Andrew Trevorrow which I&#039;ve used for many years.http://www.trevorrow.com/oztex/index.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also the Oztex suite of programs by Andrew Trevorrow which I&#8217;ve used for many years.<a href="http://www.trevorrow.com/oztex/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.trevorrow.com/oztex/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: james dear</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312885</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[james dear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 07:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The main problem with LaTeX (and I&#039;ve been using it for over 7 years now), is ... the so-called &quot;(professional) publishers&quot;. Rarely can I submit for a journal or other publication files in TEX.

And why do all these journals have their own typesetting preferences? It would indeed be easier if academics could focus on the content - and let LaTeX take care of the form. But more often than not, I spend days tweaking LaTeX or making Stylesheets to fit the requests of a publisher who thinks that his stylesheet is the best. If they would show a more professional attitude, they could provide free .sty files to make LaTeX work effortlessly with their own stylesheet requirements. But more often than not, they don&#039;t provide any templates.

So far, I have collected stylesheet with 8 different way to do headings and subheadings. That&#039;s really truly unprofessional. We have a tool that allows excellent type-setting, but it seems that publishers are not too keen to make us use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main problem with LaTeX (and I&#8217;ve been using it for over 7 years now), is &#8230; the so-called &#8220;(professional) publishers&#8221;. Rarely can I submit for a journal or other publication files in TEX.</p>
<p>And why do all these journals have their own typesetting preferences? It would indeed be easier if academics could focus on the content &#8211; and let LaTeX take care of the form. But more often than not, I spend days tweaking LaTeX or making Stylesheets to fit the requests of a publisher who thinks that his stylesheet is the best. If they would show a more professional attitude, they could provide free .sty files to make LaTeX work effortlessly with their own stylesheet requirements. But more often than not, they don&#8217;t provide any templates.</p>
<p>So far, I have collected stylesheet with 8 different way to do headings and subheadings. That&#8217;s really truly unprofessional. We have a tool that allows excellent type-setting, but it seems that publishers are not too keen to make us use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/latex-and-osx/#comment-312884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kamen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 11:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teekay,

You have a really good point here - but your argument is sligthly sollipsistic. I mean to say that the fact that M$ Word is the de facto business standard document format is the reason why most people would resort to it for data exchange. Otherwise, people would use a more stable data format. Such is life :-). But your point is good: what&#039;s my editor going to do with my lovely, hyper-linked, indexed and printer-ready pdf manuscript?

Of course, Real Men (tm) would use cvs, or some other versioning system. For a programmer, nothing is easier than checking in a TeX source file into cvs. But writers need to write, not go for an IT degree, so this makes the accessibility of the system very hard indeed. (LyX 4.x incorporates change tracking, and it&#039;s very nice, but that ties you to the .lyx document format, which is hardly an improvement).

I expect the current trend in web-based applications to eventually incorporate concurrent version tracking. You only need to put two and two together to realise that solutions like Writely (http://www.writely.com) can really benefit from such an arrangement. So here&#039;s looking to the future.

Btw, there is a rather less known web-based office suite called gOffice (https://goffice.com) which is based on a TeX engine (the rather recent XeTeX variety, if I am not mistaken). Unfortunately, it has recently ceased to be free, for reasons which are beyond my comprehension, so I&#039;m not even sure one can test-drive it for a while to see how it handles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teekay,</p>
<p>You have a really good point here &#8211; but your argument is sligthly sollipsistic. I mean to say that the fact that M$ Word is the de facto business standard document format is the reason why most people would resort to it for data exchange. Otherwise, people would use a more stable data format. Such is life :-). But your point is good: what&#8217;s my editor going to do with my lovely, hyper-linked, indexed and printer-ready pdf manuscript?</p>
<p>Of course, Real Men &#8482; would use cvs, or some other versioning system. For a programmer, nothing is easier than checking in a TeX source file into cvs. But writers need to write, not go for an IT degree, so this makes the accessibility of the system very hard indeed. (LyX 4.x incorporates change tracking, and it&#8217;s very nice, but that ties you to the .lyx document format, which is hardly an improvement).</p>
<p>I expect the current trend in web-based applications to eventually incorporate concurrent version tracking. You only need to put two and two together to realise that solutions like Writely (<a href="http://www.writely.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.writely.com</a>) can really benefit from such an arrangement. So here&#8217;s looking to the future.</p>
<p>Btw, there is a rather less known web-based office suite called gOffice (<a href="https://goffice.com" rel="nofollow">https://goffice.com</a>) which is based on a TeX engine (the rather recent XeTeX variety, if I am not mistaken). Unfortunately, it has recently ceased to be free, for reasons which are beyond my comprehension, so I&#8217;m not even sure one can test-drive it for a while to see how it handles.</p>
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