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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-550847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 03:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Gazoobee
I have yet to meet anyone I respect intellectually come up with a good argument for the average consumer or iPhone owner to use jailbreaking.

Well then maybe you should make smarter friends. Jailreaking your device opens a world of possibilites, you can finally unleash the full potential of your device and are no longer bound the the restrictions and judgement of apple. For example what gives them the right to decide if you are allowed to put adult apps on your device after all it is YOUR device not thiers. I believe we should be free to do what we wish with the devices we purchased without all apple&#039;s bullshit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gazoobee<br />
I have yet to meet anyone I respect intellectually come up with a good argument for the average consumer or iPhone owner to use jailbreaking.</p>
<p>Well then maybe you should make smarter friends. Jailreaking your device opens a world of possibilites, you can finally unleash the full potential of your device and are no longer bound the the restrictions and judgement of apple. For example what gives them the right to decide if you are allowed to put adult apps on your device after all it is YOUR device not thiers. I believe we should be free to do what we wish with the devices we purchased without all apple&#8217;s bullshit</p>
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		<title>By: Koruptor King</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-530149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Koruptor King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The link is broken or just doesn&#039;t work. I am the owner of a jailbreak team and a jailbreak isn&#039;t just to be able to develop. Users can expand the abilities of their iPhone/iPod Touch. A 2G can start using 3G multitasking. Yes development becomes easier and much better but a device will never become utterly useless due to a jailbreak if you are a smart person.

Note: I have once accidentally deleted by friend&#039;s /etc/fstab file causing his iPod to not be able to boot. I did however fix this issue in minimal time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link is broken or just doesn&#8217;t work. I am the owner of a jailbreak team and a jailbreak isn&#8217;t just to be able to develop. Users can expand the abilities of their iPhone/iPod Touch. A 2G can start using 3G multitasking. Yes development becomes easier and much better but a device will never become utterly useless due to a jailbreak if you are a smart person.</p>
<p>Note: I have once accidentally deleted by friend&#8217;s /etc/fstab file causing his iPod to not be able to boot. I did however fix this issue in minimal time.</p>
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		<title>By: shweta</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shweta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 06:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;how can i create iPhone applications on winXP. Plz let me know if there is any way??&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can i create iPhone applications on winXP. Plz let me know if there is any way??</p>
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		<title>By: freerunnering</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332885</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[freerunnering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;On the jailbreaking stand point yes it IS legal yes it IS a brilliant brilliant thing to do and i could not stand the limitations if i had to go back to an unjailbroken device!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also you&#039;ll ALWAYS be able to restore to factory settings hence revalidating the warranty as DFU mode (emergency restore mode) is built into the rom (read only) files effectively making it built into the hardware!
If you can&#039;t restore that means it&#039;s a hardware problem and they can&#039;t tell what what on the device let alone if it was jailbroken.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have on my jailbroken iPod 2G, Infiniboard (vertical scrolling), infinidock (scrolling dock), backgrounder (multitasking), sbsettings (quick toggles), winterboard (complete system wide themes),  categories, stacks, overboard (expose of all your springboard pages), and the list goes on and on!! Stuff that is so advanced and system altering that apple would never allow this stuff into the appstore (they just copy it for future versions of the operation system).
Apple never planned for an appstore or apps but when the dev team jailbroke the iphone and released Winchain (developer SDK for 1.x firmware) apple patched the exploit and released the appstore to try and keep control of their device.
Jailbreakers built a copy &amp; paste app for 2.0, 3.0 had copy &amp; paste.
Jailbreakers made categories backgrounding and quick toggles for 3.0- and apple add these to 4.0.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a computer you have access to your computers files jailbreaking adds that to the iPhoneOS!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the jailbreaking stand point yes it IS legal yes it IS a brilliant brilliant thing to do and i could not stand the limitations if i had to go back to an unjailbroken device!</p>
<p>Also you&#8217;ll ALWAYS be able to restore to factory settings hence revalidating the warranty as DFU mode (emergency restore mode) is built into the rom (read only) files effectively making it built into the hardware!<br />
If you can&#8217;t restore that means it&#8217;s a hardware problem and they can&#8217;t tell what what on the device let alone if it was jailbroken.</p>
<p>I have on my jailbroken iPod 2G, Infiniboard (vertical scrolling), infinidock (scrolling dock), backgrounder (multitasking), sbsettings (quick toggles), winterboard (complete system wide themes),  categories, stacks, overboard (expose of all your springboard pages), and the list goes on and on!! Stuff that is so advanced and system altering that apple would never allow this stuff into the appstore (they just copy it for future versions of the operation system).<br />
Apple never planned for an appstore or apps but when the dev team jailbroke the iphone and released Winchain (developer SDK for 1.x firmware) apple patched the exploit and released the appstore to try and keep control of their device.<br />
Jailbreakers built a copy &amp; paste app for 2.0, 3.0 had copy &amp; paste.<br />
Jailbreakers made categories backgrounding and quick toggles for 3.0- and apple add these to 4.0.</p>
<p>On a computer you have access to your computers files jailbreaking adds that to the iPhoneOS!</p>
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		<title>By: Ofer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ofer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can also use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tersus.com/#Id=3215&quot; Tersus&lt;/a&gt; (open source).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also use &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://www.tersus.com/#Id=3215&#038;quot" rel="nofollow">http://www.tersus.com/#Id=3215&#038;quot</a>; Tersus (open source).</p>
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		<title>By: RJL</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RJL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry Jesse but I have to speak up. Not meaning this as a Jab but you sound like any other Mac user I have ever heard that protest Mac is God.

Mac is finally a really good system, with the new OSX systems. The old Macs sucked period! Now...that being said...

My biggest problem is don&#039;t try to sell me a product that I MUST buy YOUR hardware exclusively for, and pay a bloody fortune for it to begin with. Apple justifies this by saying they have exceptionally good quality hardware that is approved only for their systems. However, I can choose superb quality hardware of my own thank you, and without paying crap loads of money for it!

They make great products, decent OS, now one day when they get reasonable with prices I may even purchase a Mac...but right now I refuse to give them any of my money and they can shove their Mac Mini where the Harddrive doesn&#039;t shine.

Objective C people, all ya need with the iPhone SDK, use a virtual install or duel boot but to NOT encourage corporations like Apple (or Microsoft) to continue to gouge people.

To None Developers: You folks want to know why you have to pay so much for software titles? Because developers have to deal with crap like this from Apple, or buy expensive IDEs from Microsoft. Not bad enough we have to keep getting re-certified and constantly learn ever changing programming languages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Jesse but I have to speak up. Not meaning this as a Jab but you sound like any other Mac user I have ever heard that protest Mac is God.</p>
<p>Mac is finally a really good system, with the new OSX systems. The old Macs sucked period! Now&#8230;that being said&#8230;</p>
<p>My biggest problem is don&#8217;t try to sell me a product that I MUST buy YOUR hardware exclusively for, and pay a bloody fortune for it to begin with. Apple justifies this by saying they have exceptionally good quality hardware that is approved only for their systems. However, I can choose superb quality hardware of my own thank you, and without paying crap loads of money for it!</p>
<p>They make great products, decent OS, now one day when they get reasonable with prices I may even purchase a Mac&#8230;but right now I refuse to give them any of my money and they can shove their Mac Mini where the Harddrive doesn&#8217;t shine.</p>
<p>Objective C people, all ya need with the iPhone SDK, use a virtual install or duel boot but to NOT encourage corporations like Apple (or Microsoft) to continue to gouge people.</p>
<p>To None Developers: You folks want to know why you have to pay so much for software titles? Because developers have to deal with crap like this from Apple, or buy expensive IDEs from Microsoft. Not bad enough we have to keep getting re-certified and constantly learn ever changing programming languages.</p>
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		<title>By: RJL</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332882</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RJL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KUDOS  TO Christopher! =)

They will all come back to their roots eventually, as Mac runs over BSD now so will Windows come back to their roots eventually. Don&#039;t believe? Look at the directory structure of a LINUX/UNIX flavored machine, then look at the changes of the Windows directory structure from WinXP to Vista alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KUDOS  TO Christopher! =)</p>
<p>They will all come back to their roots eventually, as Mac runs over BSD now so will Windows come back to their roots eventually. Don&#8217;t believe? Look at the directory structure of a LINUX/UNIX flavored machine, then look at the changes of the Windows directory structure from WinXP to Vista alone.</p>
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		<title>By: RJL</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332881</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RJL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Programming for ANY platform should be possible within a developers preferred platform, regardless of what platform (or OS) he so chooses in my opinion. I prefer LINUX, and I see no reason why I shouldn&#039;t be able to write for iPhone on my LINUX OS as easily as someone on a Mac.
In fact, Mac is only a window system which runs on top of FreeBSD (close cousin to LINUX) so what is the big problem here for porting Xcode and the iPhone SDK tools?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Programming for ANY platform should be possible within a developers preferred platform, regardless of what platform (or OS) he so chooses in my opinion. I prefer LINUX, and I see no reason why I shouldn&#8217;t be able to write for iPhone on my LINUX OS as easily as someone on a Mac.<br />
In fact, Mac is only a window system which runs on top of FreeBSD (close cousin to LINUX) so what is the big problem here for porting Xcode and the iPhone SDK tools?</p>
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		<title>By: Lali</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use Sentenza to develop on Windows, for iPhone.
The only one alternative...

(Search on google: sentenza for iphone)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use Sentenza to develop on Windows, for iPhone.<br />
The only one alternative&#8230;</p>
<p>(Search on google: sentenza for iphone)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Gazoobee, after reading so many bla bla something just came up to my mind: &quot;This guy should drink  with the nose out of the glass&quot;

Anyway, keeping it simple 4u:
Jailbreaking = I can use other carrier&#039;s Sim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Gazoobee, after reading so many bla bla something just came up to my mind: &#8220;This guy should drink  with the nose out of the glass&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, keeping it simple 4u:<br />
Jailbreaking = I can use other carrier&#8217;s Sim</p>
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		<title>By: Tad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332878</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually using a mac emulator still won&#039;t help you.  You must have the most up to date version of Leopard 10.5.8 to even install the current SDK, the best (read most successful) set-ups I&#039;ve heard to circumvent this is using VMWare and installing Leopard 10.5.8 onto that.  Otherwise you just tend to be out-of-luck.  If VMWare is the emulator you are using then good luck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually using a mac emulator still won&#8217;t help you.  You must have the most up to date version of Leopard 10.5.8 to even install the current SDK, the best (read most successful) set-ups I&#8217;ve heard to circumvent this is using VMWare and installing Leopard 10.5.8 onto that.  Otherwise you just tend to be out-of-luck.  If VMWare is the emulator you are using then good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone SDK for Windows - iPhone Dev Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iPhone SDK for Windows - iPhone Dev Forums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Simulator is missing).  Reference:   Starting iPhone app development in Linux? - Stack Overflow  IBM Extends iPhone Development to Windows/Linux Programmers  Programming for iPhone using Linux or Windows - Blog of Max Horvath  To begin with iPhone [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Simulator is missing).  Reference:   Starting iPhone app development in Linux? &#8211; Stack Overflow  IBM Extends iPhone Development to Windows/Linux Programmers  Programming for iPhone using Linux or Windows &#8211; Blog of Max Horvath  To begin with iPhone [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Priyesh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Priyesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish we could go back to the iPod debut days and see if the same was done for iTunes software and how that would have affected the pod sales.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish we could go back to the iPod debut days and see if the same was done for iTunes software and how that would have affected the pod sales.</p>
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		<title>By: pavja2</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pavja2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One, Jailbreaking is leagal, and personally I would strongly reccomend this as THE way to protest apple&#039;s obsessive control over us iphone users, its my phone, not apple&#039;s and I am the one who paid $200 and a monthly fee for that right. If i took my phone slammed it into the ground and shattered it into a million pieces, would apple be able to sue me in a court of law for breaking &quot;their&quot; iphone? 
Exactly...I have mobile terminal, SSH, and SBSettings I would not give up my jailbreak for the world]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One, Jailbreaking is leagal, and personally I would strongly reccomend this as THE way to protest apple&#8217;s obsessive control over us iphone users, its my phone, not apple&#8217;s and I am the one who paid $200 and a monthly fee for that right. If i took my phone slammed it into the ground and shattered it into a million pieces, would apple be able to sue me in a court of law for breaking &#8220;their&#8221; iphone?<br />
Exactly&#8230;I have mobile terminal, SSH, and SBSettings I would not give up my jailbreak for the world</p>
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		<title>By: izzizzgr</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/ibm-extends-iphone-development-to-windowslinux-programmers/#comment-332874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[izzizzgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading through this chain of back and forth, I have to say I am thrilled.  I am thrilled at the freedom we have, the ability to make these choices and openly voice our opinions.  I don&#039;t think there is a right or wrong regarding Jailbreaking or not, Apple vs MS or open source vs. proprietary, but I do think it is amazing that we have choices, and that people with deep insight and knowledge can openly debate.

Additionally I would like to point out one thing.  When you violate an EULA you are in violation of a civil contract, you are CIVILLY liable, not necessarily criminally liable.  How you violate that agreement, and what actions you take can be criminal, but do not have to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading through this chain of back and forth, I have to say I am thrilled.  I am thrilled at the freedom we have, the ability to make these choices and openly voice our opinions.  I don&#8217;t think there is a right or wrong regarding Jailbreaking or not, Apple vs MS or open source vs. proprietary, but I do think it is amazing that we have choices, and that people with deep insight and knowledge can openly debate.</p>
<p>Additionally I would like to point out one thing.  When you violate an EULA you are in violation of a civil contract, you are CIVILLY liable, not necessarily criminally liable.  How you violate that agreement, and what actions you take can be criminal, but do not have to be.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ctrl+V game - Page 88 - x10Hosting Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Ctrl+V game - Page 88 - x10Hosting Forums]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Ctrl+V game     http://theappleblog.com/2008/10/07/i...x-programmers/    __________________  I can ban you! I can get you banned! I can teach you origami! Come join the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Ctrl+V game     <a href="http://theappleblog.com/2008/10/07/i...x-programmers/" rel="nofollow">http://theappleblog.com/2008/10/07/i&#8230;x-programmers/</a>    __________________  I can ban you! I can get you banned! I can teach you origami! Come join the [...]</p>
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