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	<title>Comments on: Google Chrome OS: Hype, Hope or Humbug?</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have spoke with many clients about this as I am in web development and do some PC repair on the side (literally some). Most are not and will not be comfortable with the whole notion of storing all personal information in the &quot;cloud&quot; or just plain old internet to us &quot;old timers (28 years of age being old)&quot;. There is nothing new or exciting here. I don&#039;t personally think people are going to totally buy into the software as a service lifestyle. There is a thing called ownership and that is where Apple/MS know the game. These are large multi-billion companies and so is Google. However these companies have been in the OS/Client game alot longer and know how to play that game. I don&#039;t think this will flop at all. I think this will mostly be the computer you buy for the kids to play on and for Grandma to send e-mail to junior with, nothing more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spoke with many clients about this as I am in web development and do some PC repair on the side (literally some). Most are not and will not be comfortable with the whole notion of storing all personal information in the &#8220;cloud&#8221; or just plain old internet to us &#8220;old timers (28 years of age being old)&#8221;. There is nothing new or exciting here. I don&#8217;t personally think people are going to totally buy into the software as a service lifestyle. There is a thing called ownership and that is where Apple/MS know the game. These are large multi-billion companies and so is Google. However these companies have been in the OS/Client game alot longer and know how to play that game. I don&#8217;t think this will flop at all. I think this will mostly be the computer you buy for the kids to play on and for Grandma to send e-mail to junior with, nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Harper</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One hole year ?....DOUGH !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One hole year ?&#8230;.DOUGH !!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reestman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So this really comes back to Tom’s same old “netbooks suck” song and dance.&quot;

I&#039;ve never said netbooks suck. I&#039;ve said they&#039;re the new cheap laptop, which is correct. And I&#039;ve said that Apple should not make one, which I still believe. But I never said they sucked. 

&quot;A smaller, sub-$400 gadget with enough battery life that it doesn’t need a power cord run up to the coffee table sounds perfect for me, anyway — and I don’t care what OS it runs.&quot;

Great. But now you&#039;re talking about YOU, whereas your initial statement was about the more general population (&quot;people&quot;). 

There are those perfectly happy with netbooks, which is fine; we all have different needs. But if Chrome OS is going to have anywhere near the impact some are claiming it will, it must have a far, far greater reach than current Linux/Windows netbooks do now. I believe the majority of consumers are not ready for that; those that are don&#039;t need Chrome OS anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So this really comes back to Tom’s same old “netbooks suck” song and dance.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never said netbooks suck. I&#8217;ve said they&#8217;re the new cheap laptop, which is correct. And I&#8217;ve said that Apple should not make one, which I still believe. But I never said they sucked. </p>
<p>&#8220;A smaller, sub-$400 gadget with enough battery life that it doesn’t need a power cord run up to the coffee table sounds perfect for me, anyway — and I don’t care what OS it runs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great. But now you&#8217;re talking about YOU, whereas your initial statement was about the more general population (&#8220;people&#8221;). </p>
<p>There are those perfectly happy with netbooks, which is fine; we all have different needs. But if Chrome OS is going to have anywhere near the impact some are claiming it will, it must have a far, far greater reach than current Linux/Windows netbooks do now. I believe the majority of consumers are not ready for that; those that are don&#8217;t need Chrome OS anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Champs</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Champs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is not just about web apps, it’s about the entire netbook package as it would exist in Chrome OS.&quot;

So this really comes back to Tom&#039;s same old &quot;netbooks suck&quot; song and dance.  Clearly a netbook isn&#039;t for Reestman or a lot of the penny-wise, dollar foolish folks who thought they were just buying a cheap, super-portable laptop.

Whether I need a powerful system (rarely) or not, my wife is using the desktop, anyway -- so here I sit with a not-needed-for-work-anymore MBP that cost more than twice as much as the television I&#039;m using as a primary activity, anyway.  It&#039;s like being that guy at the trailer park with a pickup truck nicer than his own home.  A smaller, sub-$400 gadget with enough battery life that it doesn&#039;t need a power cord run up to the coffee table sounds perfect for me, anyway -- and I don&#039;t care what OS it runs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is not just about web apps, it’s about the entire netbook package as it would exist in Chrome OS.&#8221;</p>
<p>So this really comes back to Tom&#8217;s same old &#8220;netbooks suck&#8221; song and dance.  Clearly a netbook isn&#8217;t for Reestman or a lot of the penny-wise, dollar foolish folks who thought they were just buying a cheap, super-portable laptop.</p>
<p>Whether I need a powerful system (rarely) or not, my wife is using the desktop, anyway &#8212; so here I sit with a not-needed-for-work-anymore MBP that cost more than twice as much as the television I&#8217;m using as a primary activity, anyway.  It&#8217;s like being that guy at the trailer park with a pickup truck nicer than his own home.  A smaller, sub-$400 gadget with enough battery life that it doesn&#8217;t need a power cord run up to the coffee table sounds perfect for me, anyway &#8212; and I don&#8217;t care what OS it runs.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen king</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stephen king]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused? It was easy when it was about mac vs. softies. Then you added
linux. Now it&#039;s an imaginary google os.
If someone  would put this flamewar on a separate website, i might buy a
ticket and a beer and hotdog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused? It was easy when it was about mac vs. softies. Then you added<br />
linux. Now it&#8217;s an imaginary google os.<br />
If someone  would put this flamewar on a separate website, i might buy a<br />
ticket and a beer and hotdog.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Kvasnicka</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Kvasnicka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;but that’s exactly how netbooks began — with the Linux/Firefox combo already mentioned — and consumers didn’t go there.&quot; -- it&#039;s as if you said that we don&#039;t need a Mac because Windows can run a browser too. It&#039;s about the way it&#039;s crafted. I think that Chrome OS will be much more streamlined than Ubuntu with a browser in it and thousands of other things, that -- for a certain target audience -- ale useless.

I don&#039;t think the new OS will take the world by storm and endanger any of the major players. But there certainly is a target audience for which the OS will be exactly the thing they need. The only non-web apps my wife uses are video and music players... which will certainly be in Chrome OS, web-based or not. And I know of more people who use their computers that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but that’s exactly how netbooks began — with the Linux/Firefox combo already mentioned — and consumers didn’t go there.&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s as if you said that we don&#8217;t need a Mac because Windows can run a browser too. It&#8217;s about the way it&#8217;s crafted. I think that Chrome OS will be much more streamlined than Ubuntu with a browser in it and thousands of other things, that &#8212; for a certain target audience &#8212; ale useless.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the new OS will take the world by storm and endanger any of the major players. But there certainly is a target audience for which the OS will be exactly the thing they need. The only non-web apps my wife uses are video and music players&#8230; which will certainly be in Chrome OS, web-based or not. And I know of more people who use their computers that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue-Devices</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blue-Devices]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things to think about when talking about an OS is hardware support. Google certainly has a good track record with regards to web apps (albeit the perpetual beta tag) but will consumers be okay with limited or &quot;beta&quot; support for devices? 

People expect stuff to just work and may be okay with web apps crashing or not working quite right because they&#039;re beta, but when your netbook crashes or doesn&#039;t recognize a USB device or work with Bluetooth, will they be so forgiving?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things to think about when talking about an OS is hardware support. Google certainly has a good track record with regards to web apps (albeit the perpetual beta tag) but will consumers be okay with limited or &#8220;beta&#8221; support for devices? </p>
<p>People expect stuff to just work and may be okay with web apps crashing or not working quite right because they&#8217;re beta, but when your netbook crashes or doesn&#8217;t recognize a USB device or work with Bluetooth, will they be so forgiving?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reestman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;People are perfectly happy with web apps.&quot;

Certainly, some are. But it doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re not also happy with their desktop apps. It also doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re in a position to rely on the web 24/7, whether it&#039;s because of unavailability, or economics, or something else. 

This is not just about web apps, it&#039;s about the entire netbook package as it would exist in Chrome OS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People are perfectly happy with web apps.&#8221;</p>
<p>Certainly, some are. But it doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re not also happy with their desktop apps. It also doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re in a position to rely on the web 24/7, whether it&#8217;s because of unavailability, or economics, or something else. </p>
<p>This is not just about web apps, it&#8217;s about the entire netbook package as it would exist in Chrome OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Champs</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Champs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few points that everyone has missed:

This is not just going to be a tabs-in-a-browser-window scheme.  Fluid.app is maybe an introduction of the shell experience to expect.

People are perfectly happy with web apps. The popularity of applications like Facebook, Salesforce, and Gmail demonstrates that as a fact, and anything that doesn&#039;t give them the red-headed stepchild iPhone treatment will do just fine.

The applications will be better, i.e. one step above the desktop browser experience.  Google knows a thing or two about how to build them, and they&#039;d be crazy not to make their extensions work beautifully with existing sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few points that everyone has missed:</p>
<p>This is not just going to be a tabs-in-a-browser-window scheme.  Fluid.app is maybe an introduction of the shell experience to expect.</p>
<p>People are perfectly happy with web apps. The popularity of applications like Facebook, Salesforce, and Gmail demonstrates that as a fact, and anything that doesn&#8217;t give them the red-headed stepchild iPhone treatment will do just fine.</p>
<p>The applications will be better, i.e. one step above the desktop browser experience.  Google knows a thing or two about how to build them, and they&#8217;d be crazy not to make their extensions work beautifully with existing sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayank Agarwal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mayank Agarwal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed! general mass still stay away frm linux and ubuntu... brand name of Google add in a lot this... about ur comment on MS and Apple... i doubt.. this will surely make big holes in the $ bags of M$ and Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed! general mass still stay away frm linux and ubuntu&#8230; brand name of Google add in a lot this&#8230; about ur comment on MS and Apple&#8230; i doubt.. this will surely make big holes in the $ bags of M$ and Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: osserpse</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[osserpse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&quot;Google says people are clamoring for a leaner base from which to just launch a web browser, but that’s exactly how netbooks began — with the Linux/Firefox combo already mentioned — and consumers didn’t go there.&quot;

I think a main reason for the &quot;consumers to go there&quot; is not so much about the OS or Google as about a ubiquitous internet with reasonable fees and coverage. 

For many people it&#039;s still to expensive to be online 24/7 AND on-the-move - even if there is 3G flat rate plans as low as $25 a month here where I line. 

For me a kind of &quot;country wide WiFi&quot; is a killer app - not to mention the same on global basis. It&#039;s painfully bad to travel internationally hoping to find a accessible network...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;Google says people are clamoring for a leaner base from which to just launch a web browser, but that’s exactly how netbooks began — with the Linux/Firefox combo already mentioned — and consumers didn’t go there.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think a main reason for the &#8220;consumers to go there&#8221; is not so much about the OS or Google as about a ubiquitous internet with reasonable fees and coverage. </p>
<p>For many people it&#8217;s still to expensive to be online 24/7 AND on-the-move &#8211; even if there is 3G flat rate plans as low as $25 a month here where I line. </p>
<p>For me a kind of &#8220;country wide WiFi&#8221; is a killer app &#8211; not to mention the same on global basis. It&#8217;s painfully bad to travel internationally hoping to find a accessible network&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351176</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Chrome OS is hugely ambitious and there are many open questions such as how on earth they can possibly build a platform proof against malware and not requiring security updates when Chrome itself needs regular updates like any browser.

Personally I&#039;d prefer Linux on a netbook, but the manufacturers virtually killed this by going for separate niche Linux distributions that have far less available software than Ubuntu, SUSE, etc - it&#039;s possible this is being fixed now with Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Moblin, but it may be too late.

If it takes Google to popularise a Linux-based OS (which is what Chrome OS is, it has a Linux kernel) on netbooks as a real alternative to Windows, I hope they succeed.  Particularly if it&#039;s a safer, easier thing to recommend to non-techie friends, compared to the nightmare of Windows stability, viruses, etc.

It will be interesting to see what happens... if Chrome OS does get some traction, it will be a great help to Linux by ensuring hardware support, and you should be able to very easily install a standard Linux on top of any Chrome-based netbook.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Chrome OS is hugely ambitious and there are many open questions such as how on earth they can possibly build a platform proof against malware and not requiring security updates when Chrome itself needs regular updates like any browser.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;d prefer Linux on a netbook, but the manufacturers virtually killed this by going for separate niche Linux distributions that have far less available software than Ubuntu, SUSE, etc &#8211; it&#8217;s possible this is being fixed now with Ubuntu Netbook Remix and Moblin, but it may be too late.</p>
<p>If it takes Google to popularise a Linux-based OS (which is what Chrome OS is, it has a Linux kernel) on netbooks as a real alternative to Windows, I hope they succeed.  Particularly if it&#8217;s a safer, easier thing to recommend to non-techie friends, compared to the nightmare of Windows stability, viruses, etc.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what happens&#8230; if Chrome OS does get some traction, it will be a great help to Linux by ensuring hardware support, and you should be able to very easily install a standard Linux on top of any Chrome-based netbook.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrochimp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrochimp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too, agree with Tom for once! Wow, cool. Nice article.

Google&#039;s claim that their OS will be free of security issues has been called out as idiotic, and so it is - but gullible people might believe it for a while, just as gullible still believe that Apple&#039;s OSX is more secure than Vista, not knowing that obscurity (small market share) is not a kind of security.

I&#039;m not surprised that Google pulled out that sly criticism of Microsoft, however mendacious, because it appears to still work for Apple. I don&#039;t think Google can get away with comparing their stuff to Windows 98 as if Windows 98 were shipping today, though - Apple has saturated that marketing message IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too, agree with Tom for once! Wow, cool. Nice article.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s claim that their OS will be free of security issues has been called out as idiotic, and so it is &#8211; but gullible people might believe it for a while, just as gullible still believe that Apple&#8217;s OSX is more secure than Vista, not knowing that obscurity (small market share) is not a kind of security.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that Google pulled out that sly criticism of Microsoft, however mendacious, because it appears to still work for Apple. I don&#8217;t think Google can get away with comparing their stuff to Windows 98 as if Windows 98 were shipping today, though &#8211; Apple has saturated that marketing message IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: natsfan7</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-chrome-os-hype-hope-or-humbug/#comment-351174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natsfan7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. The only reason people are calling this a &quot;game changer&quot; is because it&#039;s from Google. If any other company had announced this, everybody would &quot;sure, I&#039;ll believe it when I see it,&quot; but the everybody is taking a big ol&#039; swig of the Google Kool-Aid and thinking this is something more than it is. With that said, I could see a point in the not so distant future (I&#039;ll say 10-15 years) where web technology will have progress to the point where a browser-based OS is capable of being the dominate OS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. The only reason people are calling this a &#8220;game changer&#8221; is because it&#8217;s from Google. If any other company had announced this, everybody would &#8220;sure, I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it,&#8221; but the everybody is taking a big ol&#8217; swig of the Google Kool-Aid and thinking this is something more than it is. With that said, I could see a point in the not so distant future (I&#8217;ll say 10-15 years) where web technology will have progress to the point where a browser-based OS is capable of being the dominate OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hogg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Hogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here I am stunned to agree with Tom. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here I am stunned to agree with Tom. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well stated. I could see Google being more successful than Ubuntu on a netbook because the general masses know about Google.  Talk to any non geek - and they don’t know what Ubuntu is, and they have a misunderstanding of what Linux is.  Everyone knows the name Google and respects them.  They will have a following... It will not however destroy MS or Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated. I could see Google being more successful than Ubuntu on a netbook because the general masses know about Google.  Talk to any non geek &#8211; and they don’t know what Ubuntu is, and they have a misunderstanding of what Linux is.  Everyone knows the name Google and respects them.  They will have a following&#8230; It will not however destroy MS or Apple.</p>
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