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	<title>Comments on: Google and Apple Debate the Meaning of &#8220;Rejected&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 08:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d go with the eggplant. Wait, which one represents an apple?  :/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Had to throw that in there. Such a waste of time talking about this rubbish. But I needed a mindless break and happened upon it. Keep blathering on.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d go with the eggplant. Wait, which one represents an apple?  :/</p>
<p>Had to throw that in there. Such a waste of time talking about this rubbish. But I needed a mindless break and happened upon it. Keep blathering on.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Voice Arrives on the iPhone, via the Web &#171; Tech News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Voice Arrives on the iPhone, via the Web &#171; Tech News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A mobile browser-based version of Google Voice already existed, but the new one is much more properly a web app than before, and is aimed squarely at providing a better Voice experience to users of Apple&#8217;s iPhone. Apple has staunchly refused to allow Google Voice dedicated apps into the App Store, despite earlier claims that Google&#8217;s own app had not been rejected, but was merely undergoing review. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A mobile browser-based version of Google Voice already existed, but the new one is much more properly a web app than before, and is aimed squarely at providing a better Voice experience to users of Apple&#8217;s iPhone. Apple has staunchly refused to allow Google Voice dedicated apps into the App Store, despite earlier claims that Google&#8217;s own app had not been rejected, but was merely undergoing review. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Voice Arrives on the iPhone, via the Web</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Google Voice Arrives on the iPhone, via the Web]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A mobile browser-based version of Google Voice already existed, but the new one is much more properly a web app than before, and is aimed squarely at providing a better Voice experience to users of Apple&#8217;s iPhone. Apple has staunchly refused to allow Google Voice dedicated apps into the App Store, despite earlier claims that Google&#8217;s own app had not been rejected, but was merely undergoing review. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A mobile browser-based version of Google Voice already existed, but the new one is much more properly a web app than before, and is aimed squarely at providing a better Voice experience to users of Apple&#8217;s iPhone. Apple has staunchly refused to allow Google Voice dedicated apps into the App Store, despite earlier claims that Google&#8217;s own app had not been rejected, but was merely undergoing review. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PolicyMap &#187; Apple Purchase of Placebase Confirmed: Goodbye Google Maps?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PolicyMap &#187; Apple Purchase of Placebase Confirmed: Goodbye Google Maps?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and Apple’s very public, very messy ongoing lover’s spat is obviously not doing either company many favors in the media. Apple looks [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Apple’s very public, very messy ongoing lover’s spat is obviously not doing either company many favors in the media. Apple looks [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott, mind sharing a link that shows that (as ben&#039;s post contradicted) you can no longer use your own iPhone number without that being routed through Google Voice?

I&#039;m interested as I&#039;ve only read this article and comment thread and I would expect what ben said to be correct, that you can retain your iPhone number, not route it through google voice and if people SMS you or leave a voicemail for you on your iPhone number (not your GV number) your iPhone will continue to work just the way it always has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, mind sharing a link that shows that (as ben&#8217;s post contradicted) you can no longer use your own iPhone number without that being routed through Google Voice?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested as I&#8217;ve only read this article and comment thread and I would expect what ben said to be correct, that you can retain your iPhone number, not route it through google voice and if people SMS you or leave a voicemail for you on your iPhone number (not your GV number) your iPhone will continue to work just the way it always has.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple Purchase of Placebase Confirmed: Goodbye Google Maps?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Apple Purchase of Placebase Confirmed: Goodbye Google Maps?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on October 01, 2009 by Darrell Etherington and No one has commented    Google and Apple&#8217;s very public, very messy ongoing lover&#8217;s spat is obviously not doing either company many favors in the media. Apple [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on October 01, 2009 by Darrell Etherington and No one has commented    Google and Apple&#8217;s very public, very messy ongoing lover&#8217;s spat is obviously not doing either company many favors in the media. Apple [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SentientThoughts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SentientThoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thought is if you want the google experience purchase a device that provides that. If you want the experience Apple designed their device for then purchase that.  Thinking you are entitled to have the mix and match experience on a proprietary device is much like thinking your Ford Focus should give the same experience as Mercedes or you squash should taste like eggplant just cause that is what you are wanting to taste at that moment.  Get the squash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thought is if you want the google experience purchase a device that provides that. If you want the experience Apple designed their device for then purchase that.  Thinking you are entitled to have the mix and match experience on a proprietary device is much like thinking your Ford Focus should give the same experience as Mercedes or you squash should taste like eggplant just cause that is what you are wanting to taste at that moment.  Get the squash.</p>
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		<title>By: Through the Touch-Screen, and What I Found There &#171; ORBIS</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Through the Touch-Screen, and What I Found There &#171; ORBIS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] interface with its own user interface for telephone calls, text messaging and voicemail.&#8221; (The Apple Blog, 21 Sep 2009 and Apple Answers the FCC&#8217;s Questions). What harm is it to me as a consumer to replace the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] interface with its own user interface for telephone calls, text messaging and voicemail.&#8221; (The Apple Blog, 21 Sep 2009 and Apple Answers the FCC&#8217;s Questions). What harm is it to me as a consumer to replace the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357602</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lot of capitalization there, Scott B., are you trying to tell us something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot of capitalization there, Scott B., are you trying to tell us something?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott B.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben You are the one that is wrong, You have no clue. 
You think you do and you are completely Wrong.

Instead of getting your talking points from TechCrunch , You should do more research.

Facts Are:

It &quot;DOES&quot; shuts down Visual Voicemail by routing calls through Google Voice.

It &quot;DOES&quot; Replace Apple’s text messaging. 
 
It &quot;DOES&quot; moves contacts to Google’s servers. 
         &quot;Without your Consent May I Add&quot;

This is Documented, &quot;Even by Google&quot;, But they Downplay and Call it a &quot;Feature&quot;.

I Know.. First Hand, 
It Does Sends All your Information in your Address Book to Googles Servers... ALL OF IT&gt;&gt;&gt; 

 And to Cut this Short. it Is True what was Posted, You May Not Like it But Unless you Know First Hand you are Just Speculating and Your Whole Post is Uneducated Speculation Nonsense.

What Rock Have You Been Living Under.

 Use Google Search to Find the Answer&#039;s since it will be listed in a number of first page entry&#039;s.

And for Goodness sake, 
Don&#039;t get your So Called &quot;NEWS FACTS&quot; from One Source.

Fact&#039;s Are you Can Activate Google Voice and &quot;It Will Run ALL THE TIME&quot; and Take Over  The Main Usage Function so you Never Have to Use Apple&#039;s....    

And This Is The Problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben You are the one that is wrong, You have no clue.<br />
You think you do and you are completely Wrong.</p>
<p>Instead of getting your talking points from TechCrunch , You should do more research.</p>
<p>Facts Are:</p>
<p>It &#8220;DOES&#8221; shuts down Visual Voicemail by routing calls through Google Voice.</p>
<p>It &#8220;DOES&#8221; Replace Apple’s text messaging. </p>
<p>It &#8220;DOES&#8221; moves contacts to Google’s servers.<br />
         &#8220;Without your Consent May I Add&#8221;</p>
<p>This is Documented, &#8220;Even by Google&#8221;, But they Downplay and Call it a &#8220;Feature&#8221;.</p>
<p>I Know.. First Hand,<br />
It Does Sends All your Information in your Address Book to Googles Servers&#8230; ALL OF IT&gt;&gt;&gt; </p>
<p> And to Cut this Short. it Is True what was Posted, You May Not Like it But Unless you Know First Hand you are Just Speculating and Your Whole Post is Uneducated Speculation Nonsense.</p>
<p>What Rock Have You Been Living Under.</p>
<p> Use Google Search to Find the Answer&#8217;s since it will be listed in a number of first page entry&#8217;s.</p>
<p>And for Goodness sake,<br />
Don&#8217;t get your So Called &#8220;NEWS FACTS&#8221; from One Source.</p>
<p>Fact&#8217;s Are you Can Activate Google Voice and &#8220;It Will Run ALL THE TIME&#8221; and Take Over  The Main Usage Function so you Never Have to Use Apple&#8217;s&#8230;.    </p>
<p>And This Is The Problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Mathews</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Mathews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ultimately this competition is good for the future of smart phones, lets see more of this heated rivalry!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately this competition is good for the future of smart phones, lets see more of this heated rivalry!</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Google Voice does change that experience in fundamental ways. It effectively shuts down Visual Voicemail by routing calls through Google Voice, replaces Apple’s text messaging, and moves contacts to Google’s servers&quot;

Wrong, wrong, and (probably) wrong.  The above statement is so wrong.  Google provides it&#039;s own voicemail for for the people who sign up for their Voice service.  It&#039;s the exact same as if you had a home phone that forwarded to your iPhone.  The Google Voice App just gives you access to that service, just like having a speed dial.  Your Visual Voicemail remains intact and if you receive calls on your iPhone number, it will still work.  And if you go to make a call with the Apple phone application, it will not be redirected to Google somehow.  Same goes for text messaging.  The only time you would use the Google services is if you started up the Google application.

As for moving contacts to Google&#039;s servers, everything I&#039;ve heard, it just accesses your existing contacts in your existing address book, just like hundreds of other apps.  There is (probably) no uploading of your contacts to Google servers.

Ben]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Google Voice does change that experience in fundamental ways. It effectively shuts down Visual Voicemail by routing calls through Google Voice, replaces Apple’s text messaging, and moves contacts to Google’s servers&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong, wrong, and (probably) wrong.  The above statement is so wrong.  Google provides it&#8217;s own voicemail for for the people who sign up for their Voice service.  It&#8217;s the exact same as if you had a home phone that forwarded to your iPhone.  The Google Voice App just gives you access to that service, just like having a speed dial.  Your Visual Voicemail remains intact and if you receive calls on your iPhone number, it will still work.  And if you go to make a call with the Apple phone application, it will not be redirected to Google somehow.  Same goes for text messaging.  The only time you would use the Google services is if you started up the Google application.</p>
<p>As for moving contacts to Google&#8217;s servers, everything I&#8217;ve heard, it just accesses your existing contacts in your existing address book, just like hundreds of other apps.  There is (probably) no uploading of your contacts to Google servers.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: InfoMofo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InfoMofo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are only official clients for Google Voice on Android and Blackberry.  The Palm one is 3rd party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only official clients for Google Voice on Android and Blackberry.  The Palm one is 3rd party.</p>
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		<title>By: InfoMofo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InfoMofo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, where does this entitlement come from?  I&#039;m not saying I support Apple&#039;s equivocation here, but they have the right to reject whatever applications they want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, where does this entitlement come from?  I&#8217;m not saying I support Apple&#8217;s equivocation here, but they have the right to reject whatever applications they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Teslanaut</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teslanaut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;if I purchase an piece of hardware, I should be able to determine what type of user experience I would like to have with it.&quot;

As dictated by what authority? You buy a product, you buy what you paid for, what is advertised, what you know about  it. Like the PS3/Xbox 360/Wii, Computers, Phones, etc. You buy into that ecosystem, that experience. If it doesn&#039;t have something you want but a competitor does, go to the competitor.

&quot;If I like Apple’s user interface, then I’ll use that; if I want to try something different then I would like that option.&quot;

You do have that option. Android, WebOS, and more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if I purchase an piece of hardware, I should be able to determine what type of user experience I would like to have with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>As dictated by what authority? You buy a product, you buy what you paid for, what is advertised, what you know about  it. Like the PS3/Xbox 360/Wii, Computers, Phones, etc. You buy into that ecosystem, that experience. If it doesn&#8217;t have something you want but a competitor does, go to the competitor.</p>
<p>&#8220;If I like Apple’s user interface, then I’ll use that; if I want to try something different then I would like that option.&#8221;</p>
<p>You do have that option. Android, WebOS, and more.</p>
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		<title>By: iphoneuser</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/google-and-apple-debate-the-meaning-of-rejected/#comment-357595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iphoneuser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if I purchase an piece of hardware, I should be able to determine what type of user experience I would like to have with it. If I like Apple&#039;s user interface, then I&#039;ll use that; if I want to try something different then I would like that option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if I purchase an piece of hardware, I should be able to determine what type of user experience I would like to have with it. If I like Apple&#8217;s user interface, then I&#8217;ll use that; if I want to try something different then I would like that option.</p>
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