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	<title>Comments on: Did Apple Sabotage the ROKR?</title>
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		<title>By: Bryant Harland</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryant Harland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Great post! These are necessary things to keep in mind, it’s usually simple to forget concerning the straightforward things after you get consumed by a project.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! These are necessary things to keep in mind, it’s usually simple to forget concerning the straightforward things after you get consumed by a project.</p>
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		<title>By: marek</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ROKR can only support up to 512MB memory card so if you upload about 100 full time songs aprox. 3-5 min it will much less take all the memory, or you will have around 100MB additional mem. for video. Is that such a bad thing.

Everybody&#039;s complaining about the 100 songs limit but in reality it&#039;s close to memory limitations of the phone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROKR can only support up to 512MB memory card so if you upload about 100 full time songs aprox. 3-5 min it will much less take all the memory, or you will have around 100MB additional mem. for video. Is that such a bad thing.</p>
<p>Everybody&#8217;s complaining about the 100 songs limit but in reality it&#8217;s close to memory limitations of the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba TBone</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bubba TBone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL, yeah lets use a cell phone to play our music. Bye Bye battery life.

Look, Apple didn&#039;t sabatoge this by putting a 100 limit on this device. Um iPod 512 shuffle? Do these not get sold because of the song limit? No. Nano kill these? No.

Facts.
(1) Price is to expensive for halfwit, ugly, bricklike phone.
(2) Design wise its about as attractive as a wheelbarrow full of cracked cinderblocks and frog manure.
(3) It&#039;s like carrying a brick around. Clunky.
(4) Poor marketing
(5) If it held 1,000 songs it still wouldn&#039;t sell because its about as fashionable as you grandmother&#039;s leotards.
(6) Razor will do better depending on price and promotional marketing.
(7) Motorola should let apple design the phone and do the marketing.
(8) I don&#039;t think Motorola is so stupid in business that they would let someone take this much advantage of them as implied in this article. I think Motorola is trying to get better licensing arrangements from apple so when they do put it on a phone such as the razor they wouldn&#039;t have to pay as much becuase they could cite the fact that the Rokr was such a failure.
(9) Conspiracy theory....ooh Apple next move
iToilet. Every time you flush it picks a random song from your playlist and you get your own refreshing music to cover up the noise of the toilet flushing.

LOL
PS: Comparing APPLE to MSFT is like comparing a scientist to a serial rapist.
If it was MSFT it wouldn&#039;t be iPod it would be
iOWNU]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, yeah lets use a cell phone to play our music. Bye Bye battery life.</p>
<p>Look, Apple didn&#8217;t sabatoge this by putting a 100 limit on this device. Um iPod 512 shuffle? Do these not get sold because of the song limit? No. Nano kill these? No.</p>
<p>Facts.<br />
(1) Price is to expensive for halfwit, ugly, bricklike phone.<br />
(2) Design wise its about as attractive as a wheelbarrow full of cracked cinderblocks and frog manure.<br />
(3) It&#8217;s like carrying a brick around. Clunky.<br />
(4) Poor marketing<br />
(5) If it held 1,000 songs it still wouldn&#8217;t sell because its about as fashionable as you grandmother&#8217;s leotards.<br />
(6) Razor will do better depending on price and promotional marketing.<br />
(7) Motorola should let apple design the phone and do the marketing.<br />
(8) I don&#8217;t think Motorola is so stupid in business that they would let someone take this much advantage of them as implied in this article. I think Motorola is trying to get better licensing arrangements from apple so when they do put it on a phone such as the razor they wouldn&#8217;t have to pay as much becuase they could cite the fact that the Rokr was such a failure.<br />
(9) Conspiracy theory&#8230;.ooh Apple next move<br />
iToilet. Every time you flush it picks a random song from your playlist and you get your own refreshing music to cover up the noise of the toilet flushing.</p>
<p>LOL<br />
PS: Comparing APPLE to MSFT is like comparing a scientist to a serial rapist.<br />
If it was MSFT it wouldn&#8217;t be iPod it would be<br />
iOWNU</p>
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		<title>By: Gaz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and just stick pressable a scroll wheel on the side of the phone (SonyEricsson P90 style) for library navigation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and just stick pressable a scroll wheel on the side of the phone (SonyEricsson P90 style) for library navigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personaly I couldn&#039;t give a toss about a phone being iTunes compatible (i.e. being able to download songs using the phone and being able to transfer songs to the phone using the iTunes player). All I want is a phone with 10gb+ worth of storage space and a decent library navigator/player that can play MP3/AAC files (someone make a Java music player that anyone can use on any CLDC1.1/MIDP2 compatible phone?) so I can listen to my existing music collection on my phone and save an iPod&#039;s worth of pocket space (phone + wallet + camera + iPod = big pockets needed).
All an iPod can do at the moment is store your tunes and play them. It can&#039;t download them from the net for you. You still need to connect it to a PC to do this, as you probably would do with a phone player (why you&#039;d pay huge costs for downloading over a phone when you have pay per month broadband line at home is beyond me).
Bottom line: Not eveyone likes the iTunes store and not everyone is an existing iPod owner/iTunes user. By just making a good player for a good phone with good storage, good looks and a good phone-to-pc interface people will buy it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personaly I couldn&#8217;t give a toss about a phone being iTunes compatible (i.e. being able to download songs using the phone and being able to transfer songs to the phone using the iTunes player). All I want is a phone with 10gb+ worth of storage space and a decent library navigator/player that can play MP3/AAC files (someone make a Java music player that anyone can use on any CLDC1.1/MIDP2 compatible phone?) so I can listen to my existing music collection on my phone and save an iPod&#8217;s worth of pocket space (phone + wallet + camera + iPod = big pockets needed).<br />
All an iPod can do at the moment is store your tunes and play them. It can&#8217;t download them from the net for you. You still need to connect it to a PC to do this, as you probably would do with a phone player (why you&#8217;d pay huge costs for downloading over a phone when you have pay per month broadband line at home is beyond me).<br />
Bottom line: Not eveyone likes the iTunes store and not everyone is an existing iPod owner/iTunes user. By just making a good player for a good phone with good storage, good looks and a good phone-to-pc interface people will buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do you guys care so much about the poorly executed ROKR when several other iTunes enabled phones will be coming out?  That&#039;s like looking at the first airplane and saying, &quot;Man, this thing really sucks; I hope they don&#039;t make any more of these because these Wright guys have really screwed up this whole flying idea.&quot;  Motorola&#039;s competitors will have iTunes enabled phones and they will be better; Motorola will also put out new models that will supercede the ROKR.  Dwelling on the first issue of any gadget is usually a bad idea; it stymies the creativity put into the execution of future iterations.

As far as the point of Apple vs. phone manufacturers, yes, they are competitors; granted, the phone manufacturers have to license components from Apple. Furthermore, how many people do you think are going to buy a ROKR that don&#039;t already have money invested in iTunes?  The ROKR isn&#039;t average joe material but more geared for the Apple-head who has invested time and money into their iTunes collection and doesn&#039;t want to buy an iPod Shuffle to go with their cell phone, iBook, and regular iPod (for the videos, of course).  Most people will take the free phone that their cell phone provider is offering and not spend $150 on a phone.  That leaves them with $150 to invest in an iPod device or more songs through iTunes.  This isn&#039;t even for us, the computer nerds, because we can see what a piece it really is.  Instead, the ROKR is just the tip of the iceberg that gives the masses an idea to have wet dreams over and us something to complain about because any press is good press.

I mean, damn, how much time have we now spent on talking about a bad version of a possibly good idea?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you guys care so much about the poorly executed ROKR when several other iTunes enabled phones will be coming out?  That&#8217;s like looking at the first airplane and saying, &#8220;Man, this thing really sucks; I hope they don&#8217;t make any more of these because these Wright guys have really screwed up this whole flying idea.&#8221;  Motorola&#8217;s competitors will have iTunes enabled phones and they will be better; Motorola will also put out new models that will supercede the ROKR.  Dwelling on the first issue of any gadget is usually a bad idea; it stymies the creativity put into the execution of future iterations.</p>
<p>As far as the point of Apple vs. phone manufacturers, yes, they are competitors; granted, the phone manufacturers have to license components from Apple. Furthermore, how many people do you think are going to buy a ROKR that don&#8217;t already have money invested in iTunes?  The ROKR isn&#8217;t average joe material but more geared for the Apple-head who has invested time and money into their iTunes collection and doesn&#8217;t want to buy an iPod Shuffle to go with their cell phone, iBook, and regular iPod (for the videos, of course).  Most people will take the free phone that their cell phone provider is offering and not spend $150 on a phone.  That leaves them with $150 to invest in an iPod device or more songs through iTunes.  This isn&#8217;t even for us, the computer nerds, because we can see what a piece it really is.  Instead, the ROKR is just the tip of the iceberg that gives the masses an idea to have wet dreams over and us something to complain about because any press is good press.</p>
<p>I mean, damn, how much time have we now spent on talking about a bad version of a possibly good idea?</p>
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		<title>By: A Nony Mouse</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Nony Mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt it was sabotage, although the fact that Apple mandated the 100-song limit certainly indicates they were protecting their iPod products.

Consider this... the name of the phone was stupid.

ROKR. It conjures visions of Guitar Center, of Otto &quot;likes to get Blotto&quot; from the Simpsons, it&#039;s reminiscent of maladjusted, unpopular kids in school.

RAZR sounds okay. A razor is sharp. A razor is cool. Cut. Cut. Cutting edge. Even the word sounds good. Full of positive mental associations. Sleek, sharp.

You wouldn&#039;t be embarrassed to say you own a RAZR phone. You&#039;d be afraid the other person would laugh at you if you said you owned a ROKR phone.

Mr. Zander is a bit silly. I mean, he managed to be succesful at Sun during the internet bubble... a time when a babboon might have done as well (in his place).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt it was sabotage, although the fact that Apple mandated the 100-song limit certainly indicates they were protecting their iPod products.</p>
<p>Consider this&#8230; the name of the phone was stupid.</p>
<p>ROKR. It conjures visions of Guitar Center, of Otto &#8220;likes to get Blotto&#8221; from the Simpsons, it&#8217;s reminiscent of maladjusted, unpopular kids in school.</p>
<p>RAZR sounds okay. A razor is sharp. A razor is cool. Cut. Cut. Cutting edge. Even the word sounds good. Full of positive mental associations. Sleek, sharp.</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t be embarrassed to say you own a RAZR phone. You&#8217;d be afraid the other person would laugh at you if you said you owned a ROKR phone.</p>
<p>Mr. Zander is a bit silly. I mean, he managed to be succesful at Sun during the internet bubble&#8230; a time when a babboon might have done as well (in his place).</p>
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		<title>By: Info Vent  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Rants and Raves</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Info Vent  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Rants and Raves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] his&#8230; 			       		       	 				 					Rants and Raves 					 	 					 							1. Did Apple Sabotage the ROKR? To sum it up, The Apple Blog is posing the quest [...]]]></description>
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<p> 					Rants and Raves</p>
<p> 							1. Did Apple Sabotage the ROKR? To sum it up, The Apple Blog is posing the quest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pakk99</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pakk99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is full of shit? Me? Or the columnist?

And if me...care to elaborate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is full of shit? Me? Or the columnist?</p>
<p>And if me&#8230;care to elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Park</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/did-apple-sabotage-the-rokr/#comment-308279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny Park]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re full of shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re full of shit.</p>
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