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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/charts-sort-of-prove-what-we-already-knew-iphone-pwns/#comment-360044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See, this is where my confusion is.  I tend to group products by their primary function.  I don&#039;t refer to a  microwave as a  clock, a zune as a mobile internet device, or a smartphone as an mp3 player.  Apple sells the itouch as an mp3 player and the iphone as a phone, but yes they both have secondary functions many of which they excel at.  

My question is where to consumers draw the line when catagorizing devices and my concern is where do analysts draw the line?  I am just concerned with analysts grouping primary function devices with secondary function devices.  The issue not being with the overall results of this report, but rather concern for the slippery slope such a grouping creates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is where my confusion is.  I tend to group products by their primary function.  I don&#8217;t refer to a  microwave as a  clock, a zune as a mobile internet device, or a smartphone as an mp3 player.  Apple sells the itouch as an mp3 player and the iphone as a phone, but yes they both have secondary functions many of which they excel at.  </p>
<p>My question is where to consumers draw the line when catagorizing devices and my concern is where do analysts draw the line?  I am just concerned with analysts grouping primary function devices with secondary function devices.  The issue not being with the overall results of this report, but rather concern for the slippery slope such a grouping creates.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Application Development</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/charts-sort-of-prove-what-we-already-knew-iphone-pwns/#comment-360043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Facebook Application Development]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great info. Thanks for sharing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info. Thanks for sharing</p>
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		<title>By: J.M. Heinrichs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.M. Heinrichs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The iPod touch is a dedicated MP3 player only to those who are ignorant of the device&#039;s characteristics. Being ill-informed is odd but not unexpected. The touch a Pocketable Internet Device with MP3 capabilities. Mine have been &#039;roaming&#039; since Sep 07. And the internal bits of the touch are often better than those of the iPhone.

The touch is also useful for amusing young children with things such as &#039;games&#039; and &#039;puzzles&#039;, and can run a variety of &#039;productivity&#039; apps. None of which are generally associated with &quot;dedicated MP3 players&quot;.

Cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPod touch is a dedicated MP3 player only to those who are ignorant of the device&#8217;s characteristics. Being ill-informed is odd but not unexpected. The touch a Pocketable Internet Device with MP3 capabilities. Mine have been &#8216;roaming&#8217; since Sep 07. And the internal bits of the touch are often better than those of the iPhone.</p>
<p>The touch is also useful for amusing young children with things such as &#8216;games&#8217; and &#8216;puzzles&#8217;, and can run a variety of &#8216;productivity&#8217; apps. None of which are generally associated with &#8220;dedicated MP3 players&#8221;.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone y iPod son los que más crecieron &#171; Zaggroup&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iPhone y iPod son los que más crecieron &#171; Zaggroup&#39;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andy.edmonds.be &#8250; links for 2009-10-25</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andy.edmonds.be &#8250; links for 2009-10-25]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please enlighten me then cc.  Where does one draw a line between devices?  What test would be used to place a phone and a dedicated mp3 player in the same market as you say they are.  And if I recall the iphone and itouch have only recently recieved the same CPU, Memory, and form factor so for a vast majority of the data those criteria did not match.  In that case they only had the same OS and some of the same features.  

Maybe I am just that odd consumer that sees a difference between a phone and a dedicated mp3 player.  I am sure many consumers enter a store wanting a phone and walking out with a mp3 player and vice versa...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please enlighten me then cc.  Where does one draw a line between devices?  What test would be used to place a phone and a dedicated mp3 player in the same market as you say they are.  And if I recall the iphone and itouch have only recently recieved the same CPU, Memory, and form factor so for a vast majority of the data those criteria did not match.  In that case they only had the same OS and some of the same features.  </p>
<p>Maybe I am just that odd consumer that sees a difference between a phone and a dedicated mp3 player.  I am sure many consumers enter a store wanting a phone and walking out with a mp3 player and vice versa&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Nashgul,

Brett needs to go to an Apple Store.  He is clueless on these two Apple devices.
Again, the two are going after the same market &quot;They have the same formfactor, cpu and memory, and have the same OS, software and features (more or less).&quot;  And most important, can run the same apps, except for the GPS 3G phone apps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nashgul,</p>
<p>Brett needs to go to an Apple Store.  He is clueless on these two Apple devices.<br />
Again, the two are going after the same market &#8220;They have the same formfactor, cpu and memory, and have the same OS, software and features (more or less).&#8221;  And most important, can run the same apps, except for the GPS 3G phone apps.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone OS é a plataforma de maior crescimento de toda a história &#124; Blog do iPhone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iPhone OS é a plataforma de maior crescimento de toda a história &#124; Blog do iPhone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: El iPhone/iPod Touch es el dispositivo con mayor crecimiento en toda la historia</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So a phone and an mp3 player are pretty much the exact same thing?  Not even worth trying to argue that.  My problem is they grouped them together when they didn&#039;t group differing products made by other companies together.  This in my mind shows severe negligence on the part of whoever put this together.  

I believe they could have not grouped the itouch with the iphone and received the same conclusion that the iphone is the fastest growing consumer electronic.  It seems obvious that it is, so why group the itouch and iphone together?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a phone and an mp3 player are pretty much the exact same thing?  Not even worth trying to argue that.  My problem is they grouped them together when they didn&#8217;t group differing products made by other companies together.  This in my mind shows severe negligence on the part of whoever put this together.  </p>
<p>I believe they could have not grouped the itouch with the iphone and received the same conclusion that the iphone is the fastest growing consumer electronic.  It seems obvious that it is, so why group the itouch and iphone together?</p>
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		<title>By: Nashgul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nashgul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think it&#039;s quite obvious why the iPhone and the iPod touch are grouped together, and the Wii, DS is not.

They have the same formfactor, cpu and memory, and have the same OS, software and features (more or less).

The Wii and DS, are not very alike and are marketed to two completely different segments (DS for kids, and Wii for teens and up).

Which is also why iPods are in its own group (because its is nothing like the iPhone and iPod touch).

But you guyz already knows all this, right? I think you just have a hard time facing the facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think it&#8217;s quite obvious why the iPhone and the iPod touch are grouped together, and the Wii, DS is not.</p>
<p>They have the same formfactor, cpu and memory, and have the same OS, software and features (more or less).</p>
<p>The Wii and DS, are not very alike and are marketed to two completely different segments (DS for kids, and Wii for teens and up).</p>
<p>Which is also why iPods are in its own group (because its is nothing like the iPhone and iPod touch).</p>
<p>But you guyz already knows all this, right? I think you just have a hard time facing the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you are right Brett.

Nintendo could combine, and on the Nintendo logic...it would be more prudent to combine the iPod and the iPod Touch over the iPhone. With those categories the iPhone would be even farther below Nintendo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are right Brett.</p>
<p>Nintendo could combine, and on the Nintendo logic&#8230;it would be more prudent to combine the iPod and the iPod Touch over the iPhone. With those categories the iPhone would be even farther below Nintendo.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did this presentation combine the sales of the iphone and itouch and treat them as one?  Seems like that would really scew the results.  Why didn&#039;t she just combine the nintendo wii and ds results into one then nintendo would be on top.  Maybe I am just looking at it wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did this presentation combine the sales of the iphone and itouch and treat them as one?  Seems like that would really scew the results.  Why didn&#8217;t she just combine the nintendo wii and ds results into one then nintendo would be on top.  Maybe I am just looking at it wrong.</p>
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