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		<title>By: VParker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an avid Apple fan I was devastated when my keyboard and mouse became occasionally unresponsive. Luckily, I can connect a mouse and save my work before I restart. Unfortunately, I do not have an external keyboard hanging around at home! I&#039;ll have to take it in after finals!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an avid Apple fan I was devastated when my keyboard and mouse became occasionally unresponsive. Luckily, I can connect a mouse and save my work before I restart. Unfortunately, I do not have an external keyboard hanging around at home! I&#8217;ll have to take it in after finals!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I almost always have this problem when I type in a new field. It is especially frustrating when inputting a password as you get ***** and dont notice the first letter missing.

Apple has acknowledged this problem with this bug report: Bug ID# 4333743

Everyone is reporting the bug to Apple here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html

good luck,
frank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost always have this problem when I type in a new field. It is especially frustrating when inputting a password as you get ***** and dont notice the first letter missing.</p>
<p>Apple has acknowledged this problem with this bug report: Bug ID# 4333743</p>
<p>Everyone is reporting the bug to Apple here: <a href="http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html</a></p>
<p>good luck,<br />
frank</p>
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		<title>By: Siraj Razick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siraj Razick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d recommend taking to apple, in my  case  they replaced  the whole lower casing + keyboard + mouse. and it only took 6 days :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend taking to apple, in my  case  they replaced  the whole lower casing + keyboard + mouse. and it only took 6 days :)</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have had a few random challenges with the keyboard of my new MacBook (not PRO). Just now, I selected fn+control+f1 two times, and voila, my keyboard came back to life.
Was this a fluke?  Should I get send this MacBook back to Apple for repair?
Cheers,
Carol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have had a few random challenges with the keyboard of my new MacBook (not PRO). Just now, I selected fn+control+f1 two times, and voila, my keyboard came back to life.<br />
Was this a fluke?  Should I get send this MacBook back to Apple for repair?<br />
Cheers,<br />
Carol</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am pretty sure its a leopard problem.  I have had my macbook pro for a year and a half and its been perfect.....i upgraded to leopard and i get the intermittently frozen keyboard....along with a serious decrease in speed....

i am tempted to uninstall and go back to tiger, but i do love many of the new features (although i seem to be an idiot relative to SPACES....i cant seem to figure out how it will help me unless i totally memorize what space my things happen to be in)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty sure its a leopard problem.  I have had my macbook pro for a year and a half and its been perfect&#8230;..i upgraded to leopard and i get the intermittently frozen keyboard&#8230;.along with a serious decrease in speed&#8230;.</p>
<p>i am tempted to uninstall and go back to tiger, but i do love many of the new features (although i seem to be an idiot relative to SPACES&#8230;.i cant seem to figure out how it will help me unless i totally memorize what space my things happen to be in)</p>
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		<title>By: GenaSuslik</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thewolf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I&#039;ve bought a MacBook Pro 15&quot; 2.4Ghz a couple of weeks ago (middle October).

It came with Tiger and it appeared to work fine, but I didn&#039;t use it seriously until a few days ago when I did a clean install of Leopard on it.

And I&#039;ve hit the keyboard issue.

Sometimes after the wake up from sleep, after the username/password screen, the keyboard will stop working for a few seconds, then after pressing a few keys, it will get back to work and so on, until I restart the MBP.

The trackpack works just fine.

I wonder if this is a Leopard software problem, since I didn&#039;t hit it with Tiger (but I used my MBP with it just for a few hours) or a HW problem, that needs repair.

Any ideas?

Also, do you know if I can still send back my MBP to the Apple Store (I bought it online) to get it replaced with a new one or get a refund?

Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve bought a MacBook Pro 15&#8243; 2.4Ghz a couple of weeks ago (middle October).</p>
<p>It came with Tiger and it appeared to work fine, but I didn&#8217;t use it seriously until a few days ago when I did a clean install of Leopard on it.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve hit the keyboard issue.</p>
<p>Sometimes after the wake up from sleep, after the username/password screen, the keyboard will stop working for a few seconds, then after pressing a few keys, it will get back to work and so on, until I restart the MBP.</p>
<p>The trackpack works just fine.</p>
<p>I wonder if this is a Leopard software problem, since I didn&#8217;t hit it with Tiger (but I used my MBP with it just for a few hours) or a HW problem, that needs repair.</p>
<p>Any ideas?</p>
<p>Also, do you know if I can still send back my MBP to the Apple Store (I bought it online) to get it replaced with a new one or get a refund?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: BigDilvey</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m having the same problem with my macbook (black) intel core 2 duo right now. I&#039;m going to have to take it to the local mac repair shop (no geniuses in my part of the state). I have a keynote to give on thursday... really bad timing. anyone have an ETA on turn around for this issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having the same problem with my macbook (black) intel core 2 duo right now. I&#8217;m going to have to take it to the local mac repair shop (no geniuses in my part of the state). I have a keynote to give on thursday&#8230; really bad timing. anyone have an ETA on turn around for this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Guertin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Guertin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the same problem about three days into using my MBP when I got it in May.  (It was most annoying as I was showing it off at work at the time, and I work repairing computers.)
Greatly annoyed, I took it to the local Apple Store, where they replaced it with a new one immediately.  They even migrated all my files and data, and I didn&#039;t have to ask.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same problem about three days into using my MBP when I got it in May.  (It was most annoying as I was showing it off at work at the time, and I work repairing computers.)<br />
Greatly annoyed, I took it to the local Apple Store, where they replaced it with a new one immediately.  They even migrated all my files and data, and I didn&#8217;t have to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Siraj Razick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Siraj Razick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi.
Same issue here. but it&#039;s MacBook and all my
keys are dead but only the touch pad works.
So this is certainly a MacBook Bug not only  MBP  !

:(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.<br />
Same issue here. but it&#8217;s MacBook and all my<br />
keys are dead but only the touch pad works.<br />
So this is certainly a MacBook Bug not only  MBP  !</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: gennnniiikk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gennnniiikk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello

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		<title>By: Tee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[opps your comment links are in the wrong place semantically. They should come after the post not before]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opps your comment links are in the wrong place semantically. They should come after the post not before</p>
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		<title>By: Tee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[couldn&#039;t care less about an open iPhone. An open iPod Touch however! Where hacks can&#039;t possibly hurt phone profits would be wonderful.

Lock the phone free the touch!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>couldn&#8217;t care less about an open iPhone. An open iPod Touch however! Where hacks can&#8217;t possibly hurt phone profits would be wonderful.</p>
<p>Lock the phone free the touch!</p>
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		<title>By: Great deals on Apple Macbooks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MacBook News</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Are Keyboard Problems Plaguing MacBook Pros? By Louis Gray After much anticipation, my new MacBook Pro arrived this weekend. Following an evening of migrating files, applications and settings to the new laptop, I was extremely pleased with its speed, responsiveness, and all the little things &#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Are Keyboard Problems Plaguing MacBook Pros? By Louis Gray After much anticipation, my new MacBook Pro arrived this weekend. Following an evening of migrating files, applications and settings to the new laptop, I was extremely pleased with its speed, responsiveness, and all the little things &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Had a similar problem with my brand new MBP. The keyboard wasn&#039;t always registering keystrokes, especially the upper right side of the keyboard. I took it to the genius bar and had the keyboard replaced. They had to order the part and it took about 3 days for me to get it back. I&#039;m glad to know it wasn&#039;t just my typing, I&#039;ve had a 12&quot;iBook for 4 years and have also often used my boyfriend&#039;s PowerBook, and never had issues like that. The new keyboard seems better, but still has a different &quot;feel&quot; than the older ones. Maybe I&#039;m just paranoid now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a similar problem with my brand new MBP. The keyboard wasn&#8217;t always registering keystrokes, especially the upper right side of the keyboard. I took it to the genius bar and had the keyboard replaced. They had to order the part and it took about 3 days for me to get it back. I&#8217;m glad to know it wasn&#8217;t just my typing, I&#8217;ve had a 12&#8243;iBook for 4 years and have also often used my boyfriend&#8217;s PowerBook, and never had issues like that. The new keyboard seems better, but still has a different &#8220;feel&#8221; than the older ones. Maybe I&#8217;m just paranoid now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Crist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Crist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had my MacBook Pro 15&quot; since the first week of August last year, and I&#039;ve got to admit that I&#039;ve been pretty happy with it.  No keyboard issues as indicated by others, and it&#039;s been a pretty speedy machine.

On the other hand, I *have* noticed the following problems. My (well, my fiancee&#039;s now), PowerBook 12&quot;, after 3+ years, still works flawlessly.  Still haven&#039;t even needed to replace the battery!

* Coming Out of Sleep: Sometimes my MBP doesn&#039;t want to wake up.  I&#039;ll open the case and I hear the DVD drive cycle (characteristic, in my experience), and one of a few different things happen:
     &lt;i&gt;1) I get a password prompt, and everything is fine.
     2) I get what *looks* like a password prompt, but it doesn&#039;t actually do anything (screen shot?).  BBOD spins forever.  Close lid and try again.
     3) I get a password prompt, for 2 seconds.  Then a black screen (or straight to black screen).  Seems that the computer is running, but no password prompt.  After 5-10 seconds, computer goes back to sleep.  Only way to recover is to hold power button for 5 seconds or so.  Rather than a hard shutdown, I get password prompt? (WTF?)&lt;/i&gt;

* Airport card appears to be flaky?  I&#039;ve got the original MBP, so Intel Core Duo, not Core 2 Duo.  This means I&#039;ve got the 802.11g, rather than draft N.  There&#039;s a really good possibility the problem lies with my Airport Extreme base station, but, again, my old PowerBook works flawlessly.

* Battery life/performance is really, really, crap.  After 3+ years, my Powerbook 12&quot; has a good batter with still 3.5+ hours of life.  Down an hour from when I first got it.  With my MBP, I&#039;m lucky to get 2.5 hours out of it.  I&#039;m down 1/2 hour from when I got the machine.  This battery was part of the recall, so it&#039;s only about 6 months old.  The kicker is that 90% of the time, I&#039;m tethered to the wall either at work, or my desk at home.  Grr.

Overall, however, I&#039;m happy with my purchase.  I just think that with what we pay for these great machines, they could be a bit better engineered.  Things like battery life and keyboard functionality should not be major problems anymore.

For the record regarding Dell service, I think Dell, at least at their Gold support level, is far superior to Apple with AppleCare, and for less money.  Any time I&#039;ve had a problem with a Dell laptop, I had a technician come to *my* house and fix it.  This includes a HDD failure, and an unfortunate incident with the Captain (Morgan)/Coke and my Dell&#039;s motherboard.  On a separate occasion, our cat plucked all the keys off the keyboard.  I had a new keyboard the next morning (I called at ~10:30pm, new keyboard on my doorstep by 8:00am), with a screwdriver and instructions on how to replace it myself.

Sorry this is so long-winded.  Lots to say today!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had my MacBook Pro 15&#8243; since the first week of August last year, and I&#8217;ve got to admit that I&#8217;ve been pretty happy with it.  No keyboard issues as indicated by others, and it&#8217;s been a pretty speedy machine.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I *have* noticed the following problems. My (well, my fiancee&#8217;s now), PowerBook 12&#8243;, after 3+ years, still works flawlessly.  Still haven&#8217;t even needed to replace the battery!</p>
<p>* Coming Out of Sleep: Sometimes my MBP doesn&#8217;t want to wake up.  I&#8217;ll open the case and I hear the DVD drive cycle (characteristic, in my experience), and one of a few different things happen:<br />
     <i>1) I get a password prompt, and everything is fine.<br />
     2) I get what *looks* like a password prompt, but it doesn&#8217;t actually do anything (screen shot?).  BBOD spins forever.  Close lid and try again.<br />
     3) I get a password prompt, for 2 seconds.  Then a black screen (or straight to black screen).  Seems that the computer is running, but no password prompt.  After 5-10 seconds, computer goes back to sleep.  Only way to recover is to hold power button for 5 seconds or so.  Rather than a hard shutdown, I get password prompt? (WTF?)</i></p>
<p>* Airport card appears to be flaky?  I&#8217;ve got the original MBP, so Intel Core Duo, not Core 2 Duo.  This means I&#8217;ve got the 802.11g, rather than draft N.  There&#8217;s a really good possibility the problem lies with my Airport Extreme base station, but, again, my old PowerBook works flawlessly.</p>
<p>* Battery life/performance is really, really, crap.  After 3+ years, my Powerbook 12&#8243; has a good batter with still 3.5+ hours of life.  Down an hour from when I first got it.  With my MBP, I&#8217;m lucky to get 2.5 hours out of it.  I&#8217;m down 1/2 hour from when I got the machine.  This battery was part of the recall, so it&#8217;s only about 6 months old.  The kicker is that 90% of the time, I&#8217;m tethered to the wall either at work, or my desk at home.  Grr.</p>
<p>Overall, however, I&#8217;m happy with my purchase.  I just think that with what we pay for these great machines, they could be a bit better engineered.  Things like battery life and keyboard functionality should not be major problems anymore.</p>
<p>For the record regarding Dell service, I think Dell, at least at their Gold support level, is far superior to Apple with AppleCare, and for less money.  Any time I&#8217;ve had a problem with a Dell laptop, I had a technician come to *my* house and fix it.  This includes a HDD failure, and an unfortunate incident with the Captain (Morgan)/Coke and my Dell&#8217;s motherboard.  On a separate occasion, our cat plucked all the keys off the keyboard.  I had a new keyboard the next morning (I called at ~10:30pm, new keyboard on my doorstep by 8:00am), with a screwdriver and instructions on how to replace it myself.</p>
<p>Sorry this is so long-winded.  Lots to say today!</p>
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