Comments on: Apple’s iPhone 3.0 Designed to Defend Against Palm Pre

By: Pilot

Pilot — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:53:33 +0000

William said: “3) Turn by turn GPS – probably held up by lack of multitasking – I know some companies have implemented this but Apple is against – possibly safety concerns about what happens when a call comes in and switches off the GPS app and then you fiddle with your phone while driving to get it back.”

This is so funny. OMG, what happens when the iphone tries to do two things at once? It can’t and people crash cars!

Watch some of the web videos of the Pre doing multiple things at once and how it alerts you to incoming calls, texts, etc while doing other things. It’s UI and alert system is brilliant. While I think the iphone is a decent piece of hardware and I’m by no means saying the Pre will “kill” it, the Pre really has it beat in more ways than one.

By: SmartPhone “race” heats up - will the best “appstore” define who wins? | Blogging Idol

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:18:37 +0000

[...] That’s why I think the AppStore concept may well be that defining battle ground – and if you consider how much Apple is counting on success here, and the type of competition and engineering capability other firms have now — I mean just look at how impressive the Palm Pre is and how that came out of nowhere. The barrier of entry here is quite low…and Apple knows it. [...]

By: Apple iPhone 3.0 Event: A Grab Bag of Much-Needed Additions - TheAppleBlog

Apple iPhone 3.0 Event: A Grab Bag of Much-Needed Additions - TheAppleBlog — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:37:15 +0000

[...] platform-wide Copy/Paste solution is present in 3.0, and it works exactly like Kevin Rose described yesterday. HTML copy is supported, as is image cutting, copying, and pasting, and you can now paste multiple [...]

By: Damien

Damien — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:48:07 +0000

I don’t think Olternaut is correct that the preview will be light on features, I think we’ll see a fairly substantial upgrade.

I do agree though, that it is very likely that to get acceptable performance out of any multitasking will require a hardware upgrade, if for no other reason than more onboard RAM being required.

I also put the likelihood of announcing SDK support for a second screen resolution (640×960 tablet) at about 40%.

We’ll see shortly, of course.

By: william

william — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:43:45 +0000

Lots of complaining about cut and paste and MMS but I don’t think most users actually care about those. Remember all the complaining about how the iPod doesn’t come with a radio? Right, hardly anybody cares. Here’s what I think is logically coming:

1) Probably cut and paste, squeaky wheels get some grease. But who really cares?
2) Multitasking and push notification, but probably only on the new phone – the new phone gets more RAM (as opposed to storage) and faster CPU
3) Turn by turn GPS – probably held up by lack of multitasking – I know some companies have implemented this but Apple is against – possibly safety concerns about what happens when a call comes in and switches off the GPS app and then you fiddle with your phone while driving to get it back.
4) New interface – remains familiar but gets updated and cooler looking
5) No video or better camera, no keyboard, no stereo bluetooth profile, no bluetooth tethering, only by cable (battery issues)

Apple Tablet won’t run iPhone OS because then apps would get developed that wont run on the phones. I think a tablet will run straight OS X but will have some special apps developed for its special hardware. Your standard Mac apps will run on it.

By: An Important Thing About iPhone OS 3.0: It’s Not About the Pre - TheAppleBlog

Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:15:15 +0000

[...] There’s a story going around that some of what Apple may announce today for the iPhone 3.0 OS will be to counter Palm’s Pre. Kevin Rose mentioned this, and it’s covered in a few places, including right here. [...]

By: Galley

Galley — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:55:46 +0000

@10: MMS is necessary for those times you received an MMS from someone who doesn’t have mobile e-mail. The whole “let me find a pen and paper, write these two passwords down, and enter them on a special webpage” is a pain.

By: John

John — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:04:03 +0000

Can someone please explain WHY you WANT MMS when email is available? Does it have something to do with the cost? I used to use MMS… but only when I DIDN’T HAVE EMAIL.

By: Rob Oakes

Rob Oakes — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:36:58 +0000

@Tom. I don’t think the Palm Pre has much to fear. The Pre already implements all of the iPhone’s best features and includes many innovative features in its own right (Synergy, or whatever Palm is calling the integrated calendars/addressbook is awesome and iPhone doesn’t have anything like it!). Further, the iPhone limited by the hardware and software. I don’t think that we are going to see multiple apps like the Pre is capable of doing because the hardware can’t really handle it. I’ve been tremendously disappointed in the performance of my iPod touch lately. If I try and listen to music while downloading e-mail, it will often choke. Twice in the last two days, I’ve had to soft reset the device to make it behave correctly. And let’s not forget that the iPhone can be slightly less than stable. It’s still too early to tell, but if Pre can deliver a stable, fast and integrated experience … it will give iPhone a serious run for it’s money. I hope it does. It took competition for Apple to finally deliver copy/paste. Here’s to hoping that they deliver task/note sync as well!

By: lrd

lrd — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:55:28 +0000

Apple: 17+ million iPhones; 27,000 apps, 28 Billion in cash

Palm: 0 Pre, 0 apps, burning through last of investor cash

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:49:47 +0000

Palm Pre is in the potential situation of being blown out of the water.

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:45:46 +0000

The four primary complaints I hear from us iPhone users is:

1. MMS
2. Ability to view flash files
3. Multiple apps running at same time
4. Cut and Paste

What concerns me is the mounting frustration iPhone users have with what appears to be simple requests such as MMS and cut and paste. Unless I’m not understanding the process in which these two functions operate, it ought to be pretty easy to accomodate; it’s not like iPhone is trying to become the first to develop said functions like they were the first to develop the touch phone.

In any event, if we iPhone users are forced to upgrade our phone, and thus our service plan, just to receive a newer version that will allow to use said functions, I’m sure I wouldn’t be the only one to complain.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:25:22 +0000

It should be a crime that iPhone users have to use that god awful AT&T site to receive MMS messages. If Apple doesn’t add support for that pretty soon it will be very very disappointing.

By: Josiah

Josiah — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:47:01 +0000

While the Palm Pre is awesome and sexy and whatever else, there’s no way in the depths of unholy hades that it can compete with the 15,000 and counting third-party apps for the iPhone.

I’m pissed about the lack of MMS action, but it’s a small price to pay for the glory that is the entire iPhone package. Small indeed.

Good luck ever tempting a user away from the iPhone with it’s full list of capabilities.

By: Olternaut

Olternaut — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:57:20 +0000

No you all do not understand.

The preview tomorrow is going to be very light concerning features. Multi-tasking and video will come but not as a software update. You all will HAVE TO buy the iphone 3.0 with its new processors if you want true multi-tasking and video and other great stuff.

This is so freaking obvious that I do not understand why nobody is getting this.

By: Damien

Damien — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:54:06 +0000

Do you really think that Apple would change the version number to 3.0 just for copy and paste, and if so, why a “preview”? Give me a break.

This will almost certainly be a major release with a significant interface overhaul.

Big change I think we’ll see: Spaces, which will allow probably four but maybe more different app spaces to be open at once and running in the background.