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	<title>Comments on: Apple Updates the Mac Mini: More Modern, Even Worse Value</title>
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		<title>By: Supply Constraints Portend iMac, Mac mini Updates</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Supply Constraints Portend iMac, Mac mini Updates]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] once praised as the &#8220;most affordable way to enjoy Mac OS X&#8221; has become something of an embarrassment. This could mean the company is about to make the high-end Mac mini, at $799 with 2GB of RAM and a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] once praised as the &#8220;most affordable way to enjoy Mac OS X&#8221; has become something of an embarrassment. This could mean the company is about to make the high-end Mac mini, at $799 with 2GB of RAM and a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fjord Prefect</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fjord Prefect]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, the mini as it stands should sell for $399 or even less. I&#039;d love one, but the price is out of my range for what sort of computer it is. And we all know that the mini is basically a laptop without a monitor and trackpad. Those are laptop parts in there that allow the machine to be so small and that&#039;s why the hard drive is so small as well. When this thing originally was released with the G4 chip in it, I think it was $100 cheaper. What happened Apple? It&#039;s not like they have to pay licensing fees for the OS for crying out loud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, the mini as it stands should sell for $399 or even less. I&#8217;d love one, but the price is out of my range for what sort of computer it is. And we all know that the mini is basically a laptop without a monitor and trackpad. Those are laptop parts in there that allow the machine to be so small and that&#8217;s why the hard drive is so small as well. When this thing originally was released with the G4 chip in it, I think it was $100 cheaper. What happened Apple? It&#8217;s not like they have to pay licensing fees for the OS for crying out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: 从iPhone 3G中吸取教训 &#124; 优优漫谈IT</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[从iPhone 3G中吸取教训 &#124; 优优漫谈IT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and emulate. However, they are not perfect, as evidenced by less-than-stellar ideas like the Mac Mini and Apple TV, and slip-ups around launches of products like MobileMe. Their recently announced [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and emulate. However, they are not perfect, as evidenced by less-than-stellar ideas like the Mac Mini and Apple TV, and slip-ups around launches of products like MobileMe. Their recently announced [...]</p>
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		<title>By: relinashirley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-updates-the-mac-mini-more-modern-even-worse-value/#comment-341189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[relinashirley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve had our mini for years and when we decided to nix cable tv, it became our media system.  We have a macbook pro for the daily stuff as well as a PC, I believe in having both but I sure do love my Macs.  

Bottom line, after reading all of the back and forth, sounds like many of us are using our mini as a media device...and for that purpose, the Mac mini is perfect!  I have an old one, I can only imagine what the new one can do!

The Mac mini even inspired us to create a mount just for it so that it can be neatly stored behind our wall-mounted TV.  www.hideitmounts.com

It is a wonderful, little computer that saves us $80/month on cable.  Sure, the pricing could be lower, but I don&#039;t believe that Apple needs to do much with their pricing - if you can&#039;t afford a Mac, go buy a Dell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had our mini for years and when we decided to nix cable tv, it became our media system.  We have a macbook pro for the daily stuff as well as a PC, I believe in having both but I sure do love my Macs.  </p>
<p>Bottom line, after reading all of the back and forth, sounds like many of us are using our mini as a media device&#8230;and for that purpose, the Mac mini is perfect!  I have an old one, I can only imagine what the new one can do!</p>
<p>The Mac mini even inspired us to create a mount just for it so that it can be neatly stored behind our wall-mounted TV.  <a href="http://www.hideitmounts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hideitmounts.com</a></p>
<p>It is a wonderful, little computer that saves us $80/month on cable.  Sure, the pricing could be lower, but I don&#8217;t believe that Apple needs to do much with their pricing &#8211; if you can&#8217;t afford a Mac, go buy a Dell.</p>
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		<title>By: Learn from the mistakes of the iPhone 3G S : How To Be A Good Product Manager: Product management tips</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-updates-the-mac-mini-more-modern-even-worse-value/#comment-341188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Learn from the mistakes of the iPhone 3G S : How To Be A Good Product Manager: Product management tips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and emulate. However, they are not perfect, as evidenced by less-than-stellar ideas like the Mac Mini and Apple TV, and slip-ups around launches of products like MobileMe. Their recently announced [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and emulate. However, they are not perfect, as evidenced by less-than-stellar ideas like the Mac Mini and Apple TV, and slip-ups around launches of products like MobileMe. Their recently announced [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-updates-the-mac-mini-more-modern-even-worse-value/#comment-341187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just bought the entry machine and upped the memory to 4gigs.  I have a FW800 1TB external drive already so the 120GB onboard is fine with me for applications and what not.  Love the machine.  Yeah, it&#039;s my third string (I have two MBPs that are more powerful), but as a DVD player, music machine / Hulu interface (this mini iis hooked up to an articulated wall mounted 36&quot; LCD).  All is well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought the entry machine and upped the memory to 4gigs.  I have a FW800 1TB external drive already so the 120GB onboard is fine with me for applications and what not.  Love the machine.  Yeah, it&#8217;s my third string (I have two MBPs that are more powerful), but as a DVD player, music machine / Hulu interface (this mini iis hooked up to an articulated wall mounted 36&#8243; LCD).  All is well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-updates-the-mac-mini-more-modern-even-worse-value/#comment-341186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reestman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[umgrego2,

&quot;Tom, are you re-reading what you post before posting? If the majority of desktops are sold as systems, then they’re not being sold as BYODKM machines. &quot;

Sure they are. A BYODKM machine is just a non-AIO (All In One) machine. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn&#039;t matter whether I bring my own DKM by buying them at the same time, or use ones sitting in my garage. Either way I had to get my own. 

What I implied, and still believe, is that there are more desktops sold to people as systems with a DKM than there are to people who &quot;re-purpose&quot; a DKM they may already own. 

Apple made a big deal out of BYODKM because, except for the Pro where it&#039;s taken for granted, they didn&#039;t have such an animal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umgrego2,</p>
<p>&#8220;Tom, are you re-reading what you post before posting? If the majority of desktops are sold as systems, then they’re not being sold as BYODKM machines. &#8221;</p>
<p>Sure they are. A BYODKM machine is just a non-AIO (All In One) machine. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn&#8217;t matter whether I bring my own DKM by buying them at the same time, or use ones sitting in my garage. Either way I had to get my own. </p>
<p>What I implied, and still believe, is that there are more desktops sold to people as systems with a DKM than there are to people who &#8220;re-purpose&#8221; a DKM they may already own. </p>
<p>Apple made a big deal out of BYODKM because, except for the Pro where it&#8217;s taken for granted, they didn&#8217;t have such an animal.</p>
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		<title>By: umgrego2</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-updates-the-mac-mini-more-modern-even-worse-value/#comment-341185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[umgrego2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;EVERY desktop machine ever sold (that’s not an all-in-one) is a BYODKM machine. I would venture to say that the majority of desktops sold are sold as systems.&quot;

Tom, are you re-reading what you post before posting?  If the majority of desktops are sold as systems, then they&#039;re not being sold as BYODKM machines. Apple is not selling the Mac mini to people who need a keyboard and mouse. You seem to miss this point entirely in your whole article.

&quot;A hundred bucks?&quot;  What exactly is surprising about this?  Aluminum casing, 2 2.0 usb ports and styling are what you get on the keyboard alone.  And it&#039;s called mighty mouse for a reason. How much does a mouse with those features cost you when it&#039;s from a regular company? Surprise, surprise, Microsoft&#039;s wireless mouse with 4 way scrolling and customizeable buttons is 80, compared with Apple&#039;s 70. 

The Mac mini is aimed at people like me; i&#039;ve got a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. and want to switch from a windows machine to an apple. Sure, the imac gives great value, but only if you&#039;re in need of a display, which I (and I&#039;m sure a great majority of people replacing their desktops) am not. The 2.26 GHz, 2 Gig RAM, 320 GB HD Mac mini comes to 949 (in Canada) and the 2.66 GHz, 2 Gig RAM, 320 GB HD iMac is 1399. So for 450 more I get 0.4 more processing and an LCD glass display (which I don&#039;t need). What I lose, is energy efficiency.

People seem to be missing this whole aspect of the mini; it&#039;s not only smaller in physical footprint, but in ecological, too. Which is another reason I&#039;m not interested in shelling out for a new display at this point.  I&#039;ll wait until the LED backlit LCDs have become more resaonably priced and continue to use a functioning display in the meantime.  And if the change to reasonably priced LED backlighting occurs in the next 2 years, then the Mac mini we purchase today becomes our HTPC and we get the then available iMac. 

And another thing, &quot;You are paying a lot for what you’re getting; in my view there’s little evidence to support otherwise. &quot;  you obviously didn&#039;t read the post which stated, &quot;What is the alternative besides a $400 more expensive iMac that will run OSX? (the local monitor for control is an HP w1907, widescreen DVI input on sale well under $200 due to being discontinued)&quot;  

Tom, the Mac mini may not fit your concept of a budget desktop, but the purpose of the mini was to cast out a lure for people thinking about making the switch.  And it fulfills that purpose well, because I (and I suspect others) are being reeled in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;EVERY desktop machine ever sold (that’s not an all-in-one) is a BYODKM machine. I would venture to say that the majority of desktops sold are sold as systems.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom, are you re-reading what you post before posting?  If the majority of desktops are sold as systems, then they&#8217;re not being sold as BYODKM machines. Apple is not selling the Mac mini to people who need a keyboard and mouse. You seem to miss this point entirely in your whole article.</p>
<p>&#8220;A hundred bucks?&#8221;  What exactly is surprising about this?  Aluminum casing, 2 2.0 usb ports and styling are what you get on the keyboard alone.  And it&#8217;s called mighty mouse for a reason. How much does a mouse with those features cost you when it&#8217;s from a regular company? Surprise, surprise, Microsoft&#8217;s wireless mouse with 4 way scrolling and customizeable buttons is 80, compared with Apple&#8217;s 70. </p>
<p>The Mac mini is aimed at people like me; i&#8217;ve got a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. and want to switch from a windows machine to an apple. Sure, the imac gives great value, but only if you&#8217;re in need of a display, which I (and I&#8217;m sure a great majority of people replacing their desktops) am not. The 2.26 GHz, 2 Gig RAM, 320 GB HD Mac mini comes to 949 (in Canada) and the 2.66 GHz, 2 Gig RAM, 320 GB HD iMac is 1399. So for 450 more I get 0.4 more processing and an LCD glass display (which I don&#8217;t need). What I lose, is energy efficiency.</p>
<p>People seem to be missing this whole aspect of the mini; it&#8217;s not only smaller in physical footprint, but in ecological, too. Which is another reason I&#8217;m not interested in shelling out for a new display at this point.  I&#8217;ll wait until the LED backlit LCDs have become more resaonably priced and continue to use a functioning display in the meantime.  And if the change to reasonably priced LED backlighting occurs in the next 2 years, then the Mac mini we purchase today becomes our HTPC and we get the then available iMac. </p>
<p>And another thing, &#8220;You are paying a lot for what you’re getting; in my view there’s little evidence to support otherwise. &#8221;  you obviously didn&#8217;t read the post which stated, &#8220;What is the alternative besides a $400 more expensive iMac that will run OSX? (the local monitor for control is an HP w1907, widescreen DVI input on sale well under $200 due to being discontinued)&#8221;  </p>
<p>Tom, the Mac mini may not fit your concept of a budget desktop, but the purpose of the mini was to cast out a lure for people thinking about making the switch.  And it fulfills that purpose well, because I (and I suspect others) are being reeled in.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly App Store Picks: March 7, 2009 - TheAppleBlog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-updates-the-mac-mini-more-modern-even-worse-value/#comment-341184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weekly App Store Picks: March 7, 2009 - TheAppleBlog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and so there are dedicated articles for the new iMacs (I&#8217;ll be getting one!), new Mac minis, refreshed Airport Extreme and Time Capsule, plus updated processors, keyboards and hard [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: benji</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[benji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with CV. Apple is determined ignore the legions of people who want to use a mini as a htpc. AppleTV doesn&#039;t cut it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with CV. Apple is determined ignore the legions of people who want to use a mini as a htpc. AppleTV doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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