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		<title>By: SteveB</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#039;m having the same problem with not being able to see tagged files by hitting the right arrow.  If I QS and get to tags, hit right arrow, I see all of my tags (that&#039;s good).  But if I select one of them and right arrow again, the QS window just shakes its head at me and nothing happens (that&#039;s bad).

On a related note (I believe) when I get a tag and ask it to &#039;show files matching tag&#039; I don&#039;t get a filtered list of only those files that have that tag (desired feature of this tagging business).  It looks like I get a list of recently updated files.

So, would love to leverage this as I totally buy into it and started tagging things, but I&#039;m not seeing the results displayed in the screencasts.  Thanks for any belated help on this thread!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m having the same problem with not being able to see tagged files by hitting the right arrow.  If I QS and get to tags, hit right arrow, I see all of my tags (that&#8217;s good).  But if I select one of them and right arrow again, the QS window just shakes its head at me and nothing happens (that&#8217;s bad).</p>
<p>On a related note (I believe) when I get a tag and ask it to &#8216;show files matching tag&#8217; I don&#8217;t get a filtered list of only those files that have that tag (desired feature of this tagging business).  It looks like I get a list of recently updated files.</p>
<p>So, would love to leverage this as I totally buy into it and started tagging things, but I&#8217;m not seeing the results displayed in the screencasts.  Thanks for any belated help on this thread!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well the links didn&#039;t post in my previous comment:
http://tinyurl.com/22u43z
http://tinyurl.com/27sb74
http://tinyurl.com/yonrlr
Any thoughts or suggestions Nick?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well the links didn&#8217;t post in my previous comment:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/22u43z" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/22u43z</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/27sb74" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/27sb74</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yonrlr" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yonrlr</a><br />
Any thoughts or suggestions Nick?</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In researching the sustainability and cross-platform transferability of tags in spotlight comments, I came across some disconcerting information. It seems that spotlight comments are stored in the hidden .DS store file of the folder. If this does not get copied neither do the comments. Or if the destination file system cannot read these, neither can they read the spotlight comments. To further complicate things it seems that certain programs when processing the file will erase the comments. Perhaps a better method is to go with SpotMeta which actually creates new xattr in the file. Spotlight in Leopard can now read these in its search. I don&#039;t know how other or future OSes might read them, but at least its attached to the file and not separately in the .DS store! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macobserver.com/columns/devilsadvocate/2005/20051228.shtml?ppp=50&amp;p=228548&amp;sid=f65488f711a72bebbae5a14cf585ea49&quot; title=&quot;xattr follow files to other file systems&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/38942-spotlight-comments-embedded-file.html&quot; title=&quot;spotlight comments stored in .DS store&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://chapados.org/2007/11/4/leopard-shines-the-spotlight-on-xattrs&quot; title=&quot;leopard searches xattrs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In researching the sustainability and cross-platform transferability of tags in spotlight comments, I came across some disconcerting information. It seems that spotlight comments are stored in the hidden .DS store file of the folder. If this does not get copied neither do the comments. Or if the destination file system cannot read these, neither can they read the spotlight comments. To further complicate things it seems that certain programs when processing the file will erase the comments. Perhaps a better method is to go with SpotMeta which actually creates new xattr in the file. Spotlight in Leopard can now read these in its search. I don&#8217;t know how other or future OSes might read them, but at least its attached to the file and not separately in the .DS store! <a href="http://www.macobserver.com/columns/devilsadvocate/2005/20051228.shtml?ppp=50&amp;p=228548&amp;sid=f65488f711a72bebbae5a14cf585ea49" title="xattr follow files to other file systems" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/38942-spotlight-comments-embedded-file.html" title="spotlight comments stored in .DS store" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://chapados.org/2007/11/4/leopard-shines-the-spotlight-on-xattrs" title="leopard searches xattrs" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #4. It&#039;s possible to set up a search to do this in Leopard. I did mine on my Documents folder like this (translated from a Swedish Leopard, so the exact wording might vary):
- &lt;strong&gt;Type&lt;/strong&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt;
- &lt;strong&gt;None&lt;/strong&gt; of the following is true
&#160;&#160;&#160;- &lt;strong&gt;Spotlight comment&lt;/strong&gt; contains §
&#160;&#160;&#160;- &lt;strong&gt;Type&lt;/strong&gt; is &lt;strong&gt;folders&lt;/strong&gt;


My tag prefix is set to § and the fiddling with Type is done in order to exclude the subfolders from my search results. The first Type statement can probably be excluded. You get the boolean None statement by holding Option and clicking on the + sign when creating the search.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #4. It&#8217;s possible to set up a search to do this in Leopard. I did mine on my Documents folder like this (translated from a Swedish Leopard, so the exact wording might vary):<br />
- <strong>Type</strong> is <strong>all</strong><br />
- <strong>None</strong> of the following is true<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <strong>Spotlight comment</strong> contains §<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <strong>Type</strong> is <strong>folders</strong></p>
<p>My tag prefix is set to § and the fiddling with Type is done in order to exclude the subfolders from my search results. The first Type statement can probably be excluded. You get the boolean None statement by holding Option and clicking on the + sign when creating the search.</p>
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		<title>By: [ Tagamac ] [ Some tagging resources ]</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318384</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[ Tagamac ] [ Some tagging resources ]]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Part Four: Answering Screencast Questions [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: flysi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flysi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just turned off &quot;Show children split view&quot; in the QS Command preferences, and am now able to arrow into my tags again... weird, because I noticed that Nick had that preference turned on in his screencast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just turned off &#8220;Show children split view&#8221; in the QS Command preferences, and am now able to arrow into my tags again&#8230; weird, because I noticed that Nick had that preference turned on in his screencast.</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318382</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 06:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a good idea Eleventeen. Have you suggested it at the Quicksilver forum?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good idea Eleventeen. Have you suggested it at the Quicksilver forum?</p>
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		<title>By: Eleventeen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eleventeen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in the same place as Harald...I&#039;ve been using the QS tagging method for a while, but I wish that when you tabbed to the text entry box to assign a tag that it would give you kind of a Google Suggest kind of deal. I wonder if the ObjC masters over on the Blacktree forums could work something up...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the same place as Harald&#8230;I&#8217;ve been using the QS tagging method for a while, but I wish that when you tabbed to the text entry box to assign a tag that it would give you kind of a Google Suggest kind of deal. I wonder if the ObjC masters over on the Blacktree forums could work something up&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Nystad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor Nystad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 12:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been spending some time trying to figure out why *right-arrowing* into a tag to display files seems so unstable. It appears to be reliant on the Spotlight-plug-in, but not the extra scripts. The problem is that every time you restart Quicksilver it stops working, so to &quot;activate&quot; this function again you just have to select the &quot;Catalog&quot; section in the Quicksilver interface (cmd+;) after each restart, and then close it again. I have no idea why this works, but it does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been spending some time trying to figure out why *right-arrowing* into a tag to display files seems so unstable. It appears to be reliant on the Spotlight-plug-in, but not the extra scripts. The problem is that every time you restart Quicksilver it stops working, so to &#8220;activate&#8221; this function again you just have to select the &#8220;Catalog&#8221; section in the Quicksilver interface (cmd+;) after each restart, and then close it again. I have no idea why this works, but it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Fontes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paulo Fontes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, found it, just restarted QS:) LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, found it, just restarted QS:) LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Paulo Fontes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paulo Fontes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HI all! I&#039;ve got the same problem Jack had, when i invoke QS and wirte Tag it wont let me right arrow to see the files that are tagged, its a real problem here! And the thing JAck said wont work since i already have Internal Objects  checked....Would appreciate some help:(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI all! I&#8217;ve got the same problem Jack had, when i invoke QS and wirte Tag it wont let me right arrow to see the files that are tagged, its a real problem here! And the thing JAck said wont work since i already have Internal Objects  checked&#8230;.Would appreciate some help:(</p>
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		<title>By: Harald</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi fellow Quicksilver users,
at first thanks for that fine screencast, it opened up a new perspective on working with that whole metadata issue. After cycling through all the options shown in the screencast however I found myself wondering if it is possible to select a file into Quicksilver and then assign to it any of the keywords which are already in the catalogue. That would prevent me from assigning similar keywords (thus keeping the catalogue limited) and at the same time speed up that whole tagging process. Is there a way to use Quicksilver that way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi fellow Quicksilver users,<br />
at first thanks for that fine screencast, it opened up a new perspective on working with that whole metadata issue. After cycling through all the options shown in the screencast however I found myself wondering if it is possible to select a file into Quicksilver and then assign to it any of the keywords which are already in the catalogue. That would prevent me from assigning similar keywords (thus keeping the catalogue limited) and at the same time speed up that whole tagging process. Is there a way to use Quicksilver that way?</p>
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		<title>By: Binh Trinh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Binh Trinh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i am having a huge metadata issue. My metadata was not transferred when i upgraded to a macbook from an g4 ibook. I know this has to do with it saved to a different database altogether -- .spotlightV1 file? I tried to reconstitute but am having a diffcult time. I hate to reinput all the tags! Any help?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am having a huge metadata issue. My metadata was not transferred when i upgraded to a macbook from an g4 ibook. I know this has to do with it saved to a different database altogether &#8212; .spotlightV1 file? I tried to reconstitute but am having a diffcult time. I hate to reinput all the tags! Any help?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[denny, good call on MailTags.  It&#039;s almost as vital to my existence as Quicksilver.  I have yet to see a way of incorporating MailTags with Quicksilver.  Does anyone know of a method?  This would perfect life and bring the universe to a state of balance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>denny, good call on MailTags.  It&#8217;s almost as vital to my existence as Quicksilver.  I have yet to see a way of incorporating MailTags with Quicksilver.  Does anyone know of a method?  This would perfect life and bring the universe to a state of balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Santilli</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Santilli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like Denny&#039;s got me covered here - thanks!!

And Jack, glad you found that setting.  I would&#039;ve gotten there sooner or later...

There&#039;s just so much to Quicksilver, that it gets hard to distinguish what is doing what.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Denny&#8217;s got me covered here &#8211; thanks!!</p>
<p>And Jack, glad you found that setting.  I would&#8217;ve gotten there sooner or later&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just so much to Quicksilver, that it gets hard to distinguish what is doing what.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant (divigation)</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/apple/answering-metadata-screencast-questions/#comment-318373</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant (divigation)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re#4 the way to go about searching for files would be through a script where in you use

$mdfind &quot;kMDItemFinderComment == &#039;*&#039;&quot;

This will return all files that are tagged. I imagine there is a way to have a shell script or an applescript that lists a directories contents, then lists those that are tagged, compares the two and returns the list of those that are not tagged. That shouldn&#039;t be too difficult, for someone with better scripting ability than I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re#4 the way to go about searching for files would be through a script where in you use</p>
<p>$mdfind &#8220;kMDItemFinderComment == &#8216;*&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>This will return all files that are tagged. I imagine there is a way to have a shell script or an applescript that lists a directories contents, then lists those that are tagged, compares the two and returns the list of those that are not tagged. That shouldn&#8217;t be too difficult, for someone with better scripting ability than I.</p>
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