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	<title>Comments on: What Nextdoor is doing right with hyperlocal and Patch is doing wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Fruzsina Eördögh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1323408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fruzsina Eördögh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice piece, Ingram, but I don&#039;t think you can compare the two. Nextdoor (and Everyblock) are social media services (like Facebook), not a blog network/news outlet like Patch (or Huffington Post&#039;s local sections).   

Both services DO aggregate content though, so I can see why you lumped them all together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece, Ingram, but I don&#8217;t think you can compare the two. Nextdoor (and Everyblock) are social media services (like Facebook), not a blog network/news outlet like Patch (or Huffington Post&#8217;s local sections).   </p>
<p>Both services DO aggregate content though, so I can see why you lumped them all together.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliette van Eeten</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1314000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juliette van Eeten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really excited after reading this article. I work in the Netherlands for the news website called &#039;dichtbij&#039; (close-by). We have an open community and people can even comment on a post anonymously. Hearing this about Nextdoor makes me really interested. It&#039;s a shame that I can&#039;t take a closer look on the site...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really excited after reading this article. I work in the Netherlands for the news website called &#8216;dichtbij&#8217; (close-by). We have an open community and people can even comment on a post anonymously. Hearing this about Nextdoor makes me really interested. It&#8217;s a shame that I can&#8217;t take a closer look on the site&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Troup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Troup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem I have with NextDoor is that the service creates arbitrary neighborhood boundaries which are not necessarily reflective of the neighborhoods people identify with and where they believe they live.

Here in San Francisco, neighborhoods are not precisely defined and they frequently overlap for several blocks around the borders.  People living in these &quot;border regions&quot; may identify more with the neighborhood on one side or the other, based on their own lifestyle, travel patterns, shops and restaurants they frequent, etc.  But then they go to join NextDoor and are forced into a neighborhood they don&#039;t identify with and don&#039;t feel they live in — or want to live in.  It feels almost hostile to me, and has soured me on the service.

Within my own neighborhood association, we have several board members whom NextDoor insists do not live in our neighborhood.  It&#039;s pretty ridiculous, and NextDoor refuses to reconsider the arbitrary borders they have set.  And folks assigned to the &quot;wrong&quot; neighborhood cannot view all of the content from the neighborhood they identify with, and are bombarded with unwanted content from a neighborhood they aren&#039;t as interested in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with NextDoor is that the service creates arbitrary neighborhood boundaries which are not necessarily reflective of the neighborhoods people identify with and where they believe they live.</p>
<p>Here in San Francisco, neighborhoods are not precisely defined and they frequently overlap for several blocks around the borders.  People living in these &#8220;border regions&#8221; may identify more with the neighborhood on one side or the other, based on their own lifestyle, travel patterns, shops and restaurants they frequent, etc.  But then they go to join NextDoor and are forced into a neighborhood they don&#8217;t identify with and don&#8217;t feel they live in — or want to live in.  It feels almost hostile to me, and has soured me on the service.</p>
<p>Within my own neighborhood association, we have several board members whom NextDoor insists do not live in our neighborhood.  It&#8217;s pretty ridiculous, and NextDoor refuses to reconsider the arbitrary borders they have set.  And folks assigned to the &#8220;wrong&#8221; neighborhood cannot view all of the content from the neighborhood they identify with, and are bombarded with unwanted content from a neighborhood they aren&#8217;t as interested in.</p>
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		<title>By: gigaom_reader_like</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1311252</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of startups that get funded won&#039;t succeed, and I think Nextdoor is destined to be one of those -- funded by failed.

I won&#039;t comment on the comparison to Patch, but rather, point out that Nextdoor is making a fundamental assumption mistake and is executing their business poorly.

The fundamental assumption mistake:  That strangers who happen to live in the same neighborhood want to be part of a social network together.  This is sometimes true but oftentimes not the case at all.  (The one dynamic that works here is schools/education.  Many neighborhoods exist solely or nearly solely for their public school district.  Those are parents who could be persuaded to join the same socnet.  But many of them already have achieved this with a Facebook Group.)

Nextdoor&#039;s executional mistake is their site experience sucks.  It&#039;s full of spam, junk, nothingness, and no one&#039;s here-dness.  Try some random neighborhoods that it supposedly covers and the actual user experiences of being in that socnet is junky.  No value.  Stay on Facebook.

I do wish &quot;local&quot; would be figured out and would succeed.  But Nextdoor ain&#039;t it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of startups that get funded won&#8217;t succeed, and I think Nextdoor is destined to be one of those &#8212; funded by failed.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t comment on the comparison to Patch, but rather, point out that Nextdoor is making a fundamental assumption mistake and is executing their business poorly.</p>
<p>The fundamental assumption mistake:  That strangers who happen to live in the same neighborhood want to be part of a social network together.  This is sometimes true but oftentimes not the case at all.  (The one dynamic that works here is schools/education.  Many neighborhoods exist solely or nearly solely for their public school district.  Those are parents who could be persuaded to join the same socnet.  But many of them already have achieved this with a Facebook Group.)</p>
<p>Nextdoor&#8217;s executional mistake is their site experience sucks.  It&#8217;s full of spam, junk, nothingness, and no one&#8217;s here-dness.  Try some random neighborhoods that it supposedly covers and the actual user experiences of being in that socnet is junky.  No value.  Stay on Facebook.</p>
<p>I do wish &#8220;local&#8221; would be figured out and would succeed.  But Nextdoor ain&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NextDoor is destined to fail for the same reason as Patch is now -- it won&#039;t be able to attract the local advertising from SMBs. This kind of service is only attractive to a narrow band of people so it won&#039;t have enough reach to make it worthwhile for advertising. Print still rules -- even Tim Armstrong is reportedly mystified about the ability of traditional community newspapers to survive, even thrive, where their electronic cousins have failed or are failing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NextDoor is destined to fail for the same reason as Patch is now &#8212; it won&#8217;t be able to attract the local advertising from SMBs. This kind of service is only attractive to a narrow band of people so it won&#8217;t have enough reach to make it worthwhile for advertising. Print still rules &#8212; even Tim Armstrong is reportedly mystified about the ability of traditional community newspapers to survive, even thrive, where their electronic cousins have failed or are failing.</p>
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		<title>By: What Burns My Bacon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1311072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Burns My Bacon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having my second cup of coffee and waking up a bit, I re-read the story and discovered that Nextdoor is a local social media place and not a full-on news website. Let&#039;s see how it works out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having my second cup of coffee and waking up a bit, I re-read the story and discovered that Nextdoor is a local social media place and not a full-on news website. Let&#8217;s see how it works out.</p>
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		<title>By: What Burns My Bacon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1311067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Burns My Bacon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former Patch editor I&#039;m interested in seeing how Nextdoor plays out. I take it that it&#039;s like Patch in that it will report on local news? 

If that&#039;s the case, Nextdoor already made the same mistake that Patch did — using a non-news/media sounding brand name. I worked for a lot of news publications that had a newsy name and people got what those publications were about just by hearing the name.

But one of the biggest problems while working at Patch was trying to convince people who never heard of it before that it was a news website. Many people thought it was a blog I was doing on my own and one of my co-workers had a few readers thinking that her Patch was a gardening website. 

I can tell you now that based on my experience people want local news and they don&#039;t have time for any thing with a cute name. So Nextdoor better rethink its name, but I do wish them the best of luck. I will be keeping an eye on them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Patch editor I&#8217;m interested in seeing how Nextdoor plays out. I take it that it&#8217;s like Patch in that it will report on local news? </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, Nextdoor already made the same mistake that Patch did — using a non-news/media sounding brand name. I worked for a lot of news publications that had a newsy name and people got what those publications were about just by hearing the name.</p>
<p>But one of the biggest problems while working at Patch was trying to convince people who never heard of it before that it was a news website. Many people thought it was a blog I was doing on my own and one of my co-workers had a few readers thinking that her Patch was a gardening website. </p>
<p>I can tell you now that based on my experience people want local news and they don&#8217;t have time for any thing with a cute name. So Nextdoor better rethink its name, but I do wish them the best of luck. I will be keeping an eye on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Human Being</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1311063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Human Being]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do we know they are doing anything right other than raising money? Revenues? Traffic? Might be a tad early to declare victory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we know they are doing anything right other than raising money? Revenues? Traffic? Might be a tad early to declare victory.</p>
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		<title>By: jmoos</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1311010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jmoos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mathew, I’m so glad you wrote this.

I’ve been thinking about Patch and Nextdoor a lot lately. I started a Nextdoor community about a year ago in my neighborhood; several months later a Patch launched. Ironically, I learned about the Patch site through our Nextdoor site.

I have been a longtime Patch skeptic but have found it increasingly valuable and complimentary to our Nextdoor site. Through Nextdoor I learn about breakins within a three-block radius of my house; through Patch I learn about the proposed apartment complex being discussed at the town council meeting. Through Patch, I learn about a restaurant opening; through Nextdoor I learn whether my neighbors like the new restaurant.

I love that my town of Safety Harbor has both — a town that has never been covered by the local paper (which my employer owns). Without Patch and Nextdoor, I would know almost nothing about this community of 17,000.

It’s been fascinating to live in an experimental news zone and see the results firsthand.

Julie Moos (Director of Poynter Online)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mathew, I’m so glad you wrote this.</p>
<p>I’ve been thinking about Patch and Nextdoor a lot lately. I started a Nextdoor community about a year ago in my neighborhood; several months later a Patch launched. Ironically, I learned about the Patch site through our Nextdoor site.</p>
<p>I have been a longtime Patch skeptic but have found it increasingly valuable and complimentary to our Nextdoor site. Through Nextdoor I learn about breakins within a three-block radius of my house; through Patch I learn about the proposed apartment complex being discussed at the town council meeting. Through Patch, I learn about a restaurant opening; through Nextdoor I learn whether my neighbors like the new restaurant.</p>
<p>I love that my town of Safety Harbor has both — a town that has never been covered by the local paper (which my employer owns). Without Patch and Nextdoor, I would know almost nothing about this community of 17,000.</p>
<p>It’s been fascinating to live in an experimental news zone and see the results firsthand.</p>
<p>Julie Moos (Director of Poynter Online)</p>
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		<title>By: thom hughes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/02/12/what-nextdoor-is-doing-right-with-hyperlocal-and-patch-is-doing-wrong/#comment-1310908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thom hughes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many Craig&#039;s list type ads emailed out daily. Drives me nuts and quitting nextdoor...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many Craig&#8217;s list type ads emailed out daily. Drives me nuts and quitting nextdoor&#8230;</p>
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