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	<title>Comments on: The Samsung juggernaut widens its lead over Apple</title>
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		<title>By: The Man In San Diego</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1318425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Man In San Diego]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 05:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it astounding that so many Apple apologists react to Samsung&#039;s surge with the dogmatic &quot;don&#039;t confuse me with facts&quot; zeal of religious millennialists who, while disappointed after waiting for Christ&#039;s return on some date certain, simply went back to their drawing boards and revised the date of His arrival, rather than contemplate that the dogma itself might be questionable, not just the calculations. 

For me, the sheer emotional tone of their rebuttals makes their arguments less credible. I don&#039;t see anyone on Samsung&#039;s side proselytizing with such religious fervor. Which tends to lend it an air of reasonableness in comparison.

The international sources of components aside, my natural inclination is to cheer on the American company success rather than it&#039;s Korean competitor. And I do this while happily dictating my words to my Samsung Galaxy&#039;s near perfect voice recognition. And I proof read my composition on my relatively large, brightly lit, screen. And should I wear down the battery, I can simply charge it with anyone&#039;s borrowed micro USB cable, or just swap out the battery. Neither option is available to iPhone users. Indeed, the iPhone 5 can&#039;t even be charged by an iPhone 4&#039;s cable, nor can they be docked on any of the numerous iPhone docking devices which are now obsolete. 

Apple seems to react to it&#039;s own success by making yesterday&#039;s Apple marvel obsolete. This is the same mistake they&#039;ve always made. I bought a Mac G3 desktop once and was surprised that the G4&#039;s monitor was incompatible with it. 

Amazingly, despite these errors, Apple seems to rise from it&#039;s own ashes like a phoenix time and time again. So I wouldn&#039;t write them out so hastily.But just like all of it&#039;s past resurrections it will have been on the shoulders of a new product, not the redemption of their product line.So to those defending iPhone with such religious zeal, I would advise them to pray for their current device&#039;s future lest Apple again make them obsolete with their next model&#039;s introduction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it astounding that so many Apple apologists react to Samsung&#8217;s surge with the dogmatic &#8220;don&#8217;t confuse me with facts&#8221; zeal of religious millennialists who, while disappointed after waiting for Christ&#8217;s return on some date certain, simply went back to their drawing boards and revised the date of His arrival, rather than contemplate that the dogma itself might be questionable, not just the calculations. </p>
<p>For me, the sheer emotional tone of their rebuttals makes their arguments less credible. I don&#8217;t see anyone on Samsung&#8217;s side proselytizing with such religious fervor. Which tends to lend it an air of reasonableness in comparison.</p>
<p>The international sources of components aside, my natural inclination is to cheer on the American company success rather than it&#8217;s Korean competitor. And I do this while happily dictating my words to my Samsung Galaxy&#8217;s near perfect voice recognition. And I proof read my composition on my relatively large, brightly lit, screen. And should I wear down the battery, I can simply charge it with anyone&#8217;s borrowed micro USB cable, or just swap out the battery. Neither option is available to iPhone users. Indeed, the iPhone 5 can&#8217;t even be charged by an iPhone 4&#8242;s cable, nor can they be docked on any of the numerous iPhone docking devices which are now obsolete. </p>
<p>Apple seems to react to it&#8217;s own success by making yesterday&#8217;s Apple marvel obsolete. This is the same mistake they&#8217;ve always made. I bought a Mac G3 desktop once and was surprised that the G4&#8242;s monitor was incompatible with it. </p>
<p>Amazingly, despite these errors, Apple seems to rise from it&#8217;s own ashes like a phoenix time and time again. So I wouldn&#8217;t write them out so hastily.But just like all of it&#8217;s past resurrections it will have been on the shoulders of a new product, not the redemption of their product line.So to those defending iPhone with such religious zeal, I would advise them to pray for their current device&#8217;s future lest Apple again make them obsolete with their next model&#8217;s introduction.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocwurst</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rocwurst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please tell us why exactly marketshare is important? Please, we&#039;re all ears.

The answer of course is that unit sales marketshare is a means to an end, but Android is not delivering the benefits to developers, manufacturers, advertisers, content providers, e-commerce vendors, consumers or Google that such high marketshare should be delivering.

Instead it is Apple&#039;s iOS that completely dominates Android with 80% manufacturer profitshare (Morgan Keegan), 88% mobile e-commerce share (IBM), 91% tablet web browser share (Strategy Analytics), 6x the developer revenue (Distimo), 4x the number of developers (AppStore HQ), 97% business tablet activations (Good Technology), 74% business smartphone activations (Good), 67% of all in-app and web advertising revenue according to Opera, etc etc.

Samung&#039;s and Android&#039;s high marketshare numbers are no different and just as meaningless as when Nokia and Symbian had 60-70% smartphone marketshare in 2007.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell us why exactly marketshare is important? Please, we&#8217;re all ears.</p>
<p>The answer of course is that unit sales marketshare is a means to an end, but Android is not delivering the benefits to developers, manufacturers, advertisers, content providers, e-commerce vendors, consumers or Google that such high marketshare should be delivering.</p>
<p>Instead it is Apple&#8217;s iOS that completely dominates Android with 80% manufacturer profitshare (Morgan Keegan), 88% mobile e-commerce share (IBM), 91% tablet web browser share (Strategy Analytics), 6x the developer revenue (Distimo), 4x the number of developers (AppStore HQ), 97% business tablet activations (Good Technology), 74% business smartphone activations (Good), 67% of all in-app and web advertising revenue according to Opera, etc etc.</p>
<p>Samung&#8217;s and Android&#8217;s high marketshare numbers are no different and just as meaningless as when Nokia and Symbian had 60-70% smartphone marketshare in 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: The Genius Way</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Genius Way]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://thegeniusway.me/2013/01/27/1289/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Genius Way&lt;/a&gt; and commented: 
I found this interesting solely because I predicted this would happen AND I&#039;m thinking of switching over from my iPhone soon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://thegeniusway.me/2013/01/27/1289/" rel="nofollow">The Genius Way</a> and commented:<br />
I found this interesting solely because I predicted this would happen AND I&#8217;m thinking of switching over from my iPhone soon!</p>
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		<title>By: ausnote</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ausnote]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will explain what this article say, Smartphone MARKET SHARE.
Samsung have increase Smartphone Market share over apple period.

-shipped vs sold
-high end vs cheap model
-web analytics
-profit
-looking at what people use
These above queries are not relevant to this article. Save it for another article that talks about your queries above.

It feels good to give an un-bias view regardless whether it is pro apple or pro android.

Enough said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will explain what this article say, Smartphone MARKET SHARE.<br />
Samsung have increase Smartphone Market share over apple period.</p>
<p>-shipped vs sold<br />
-high end vs cheap model<br />
-web analytics<br />
-profit<br />
-looking at what people use<br />
These above queries are not relevant to this article. Save it for another article that talks about your queries above.</p>
<p>It feels good to give an un-bias view regardless whether it is pro apple or pro android.</p>
<p>Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: pjs_boston</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pjs_boston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comparing unit sales of smartphones between Apple and Samsung is like comparing apples to oranges. 2/3rds of Samsung&#039;s smartphone sales are low end devices with an ASP of ~$300. Only about 20 million of Samsung&#039;s Christmas quarter smartphone sales were high end devices like the Galaxy SIII and Galaxy Note. So, apples to apples, Apple blew Samsung away, selling 2.5x as many high end (read: profitable) phones.

The bulk of Samsung&#039;s unit sales are very vulnerable to poaching by Chinese name brands and no name OEM&#039;s. Aall these low end phones run Gingerbread Android, so they are effectively interchangeable. There is no customer stickiness because the consumer cost to switch is zero. Apple is much less vulnerable to attack from the low end of the market becuase it has a very loyal customer base, plus a unique and highly sticky software ecosystem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing unit sales of smartphones between Apple and Samsung is like comparing apples to oranges. 2/3rds of Samsung&#8217;s smartphone sales are low end devices with an ASP of ~$300. Only about 20 million of Samsung&#8217;s Christmas quarter smartphone sales were high end devices like the Galaxy SIII and Galaxy Note. So, apples to apples, Apple blew Samsung away, selling 2.5x as many high end (read: profitable) phones.</p>
<p>The bulk of Samsung&#8217;s unit sales are very vulnerable to poaching by Chinese name brands and no name OEM&#8217;s. Aall these low end phones run Gingerbread Android, so they are effectively interchangeable. There is no customer stickiness because the consumer cost to switch is zero. Apple is much less vulnerable to attack from the low end of the market becuase it has a very loyal customer base, plus a unique and highly sticky software ecosystem.</p>
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		<title>By: Inn Ovation</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inn Ovation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does the title of this post actually refer to? According to the author it seems handsets in hand, while this may be true (if you take shipped numbers as the metric), but can you actually compare the loads of cheap Samsung smartphones to the smartphones produced by Apple?

The question not addressed is what the meaning of that lead is. According to the author (as we can glean from his comments), more handsets on the streets raises the profile of Samsung. In other words, quantity would rule over quality?

I seriously question that. As others have pointed out, it isn&#039;t so simple to build a meaningful brand and Samsung seems to be a long way from having the same kind of brand recognition and valuation as Apple has. So its hard to speculate on what it actually means in the long run.

Only time will tell but it is very well possible that there is more than enough room for both a volume manufacturer acting as a &#039;fast follower&#039; and a high end manufacturer focussing on quality rather than quantity and innovation. Its a strategy that seems to work well for Apple despite of what the investor mood of day is.

So yes, if you look at the pure number of handsets in the market, you could argue Samsung is in the lead. However, that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean its bad news for Apple that Samsung sells more in terms of (cheap) handset numbers, even in the long run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does the title of this post actually refer to? According to the author it seems handsets in hand, while this may be true (if you take shipped numbers as the metric), but can you actually compare the loads of cheap Samsung smartphones to the smartphones produced by Apple?</p>
<p>The question not addressed is what the meaning of that lead is. According to the author (as we can glean from his comments), more handsets on the streets raises the profile of Samsung. In other words, quantity would rule over quality?</p>
<p>I seriously question that. As others have pointed out, it isn&#8217;t so simple to build a meaningful brand and Samsung seems to be a long way from having the same kind of brand recognition and valuation as Apple has. So its hard to speculate on what it actually means in the long run.</p>
<p>Only time will tell but it is very well possible that there is more than enough room for both a volume manufacturer acting as a &#8216;fast follower&#8217; and a high end manufacturer focussing on quality rather than quantity and innovation. Its a strategy that seems to work well for Apple despite of what the investor mood of day is.</p>
<p>So yes, if you look at the pure number of handsets in the market, you could argue Samsung is in the lead. However, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean its bad news for Apple that Samsung sells more in terms of (cheap) handset numbers, even in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: nottellinyou</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nottellinyou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give it up.  He won&#039;t respond to that FACT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it up.  He won&#8217;t respond to that FACT.</p>
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		<title>By: nottellinyou</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nottellinyou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you explain your analysis when BOTH Verizon and AT&amp;T reported that the majority of the their smart phone sales where iPhone?  Can you explain why iOS leads Android by ever web/internet analytics measure?  I mean by your numbers Android should be killing iOS. Can you explain why, since this past week, I have made it a mission to look around at what people are using and I find a vast majority on iPhone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you explain your analysis when BOTH Verizon and AT&amp;T reported that the majority of the their smart phone sales where iPhone?  Can you explain why iOS leads Android by ever web/internet analytics measure?  I mean by your numbers Android should be killing iOS. Can you explain why, since this past week, I have made it a mission to look around at what people are using and I find a vast majority on iPhone?</p>
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		<title>By: nottellinyou</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/25/the-samsung-juggernaut-widens-its-lead-over-apple/#comment-1304261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nottellinyou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YOUR ARTICLE IS NOT ABOUT &quot;PHONES IN HANDS&quot; it&#039;s about made up SHIP numbers NOT SALES NUMBERS!!!!   BE HONEST PLEASE!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOUR ARTICLE IS NOT ABOUT &#8220;PHONES IN HANDS&#8221; it&#8217;s about made up SHIP numbers NOT SALES NUMBERS!!!!   BE HONEST PLEASE!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 07:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds good until people begin to realise that they are being ripped off by being overcharged for an inferior product]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good until people begin to realise that they are being ripped off by being overcharged for an inferior product</p>
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