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	<title>Comments on: Too soon to tell if it&#8217;s the beginning of the end for the Mac</title>
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		<title>By: Fred Stein</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/24/too-soon-to-tell-if-its-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-mac/#comment-1305116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Stein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ASP went up.
The best Macs were not available until the end of the quarter.
The quarter was 7% shorter, so the decline is 15% not 22%.
Cannibalization or kids vs parents? Xmas shopping, Kids rule, pre-empting big ticket items for mommy and daddy.
Let&#039;s see a FY 13 to Fy 12 Mac units, and ASP, compares. Must wait. Dads and Grads sales in June show up when Apple reports in July.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ASP went up.<br />
The best Macs were not available until the end of the quarter.<br />
The quarter was 7% shorter, so the decline is 15% not 22%.<br />
Cannibalization or kids vs parents? Xmas shopping, Kids rule, pre-empting big ticket items for mommy and daddy.<br />
Let&#8217;s see a FY 13 to Fy 12 Mac units, and ASP, compares. Must wait. Dads and Grads sales in June show up when Apple reports in July.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kliman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Kliman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who cares about the balance sheet? they have like $150B in the bank. they have the luxury of making long term decisions, which is what every company should do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares about the balance sheet? they have like $150B in the bank. they have the luxury of making long term decisions, which is what every company should do.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/24/too-soon-to-tell-if-its-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-mac/#comment-1304877</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on people, 4.1 million Mac&#039;s in 3 months and you&#039;re asking if this is the beginning of he end? Seriously? He media have a lot to answer for. No wonder share prices take a hit when people push this sort of commentary out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on people, 4.1 million Mac&#8217;s in 3 months and you&#8217;re asking if this is the beginning of he end? Seriously? He media have a lot to answer for. No wonder share prices take a hit when people push this sort of commentary out.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/24/too-soon-to-tell-if-its-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-mac/#comment-1304443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least here in germany you could&#039;nt buy an 27&quot; iMac since june/july &#039;12!

I do not know what problems Apple hast faced in the production of the new iMacs, but they could have sold a ton of &quot;old&quot; 27&quot; models if they&#039;d done so!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least here in germany you could&#8217;nt buy an 27&#8243; iMac since june/july &#8217;12!</p>
<p>I do not know what problems Apple hast faced in the production of the new iMacs, but they could have sold a ton of &#8220;old&#8221; 27&#8243; models if they&#8217;d done so!</p>
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		<title>By: eldernorm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/24/too-soon-to-tell-if-its-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-mac/#comment-1303839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eldernorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[frd75,
&quot;Bloatware has been a part of the Windows experience for years and it has now become part of the Mac OS. Why do we need , for instance, launch pad when a simple list in the dock provides the same usability.&quot;

Apple is looking at both hardware and software.  And yes, there are a number of things that I find I never use.  But gee. 
 try buying a new car with out an engine.  
Or taking the Ford engine out of your Mustang and putting in a Chevy engine.... You can do it but ..... not really.  
Or buying a car with out an air conditioner,,,, and adding an aftermarket one... a real pain and it looks bad.  

See in todays world, you make the best design you can and press on.  Tinkering with your stuff ..... cars... computers,,,, pads,,,, cell phones..  is pretty much going the way of the horse drawn wagon. 

Its a different world Fred and we either need to get on or watch it pass us by.   

Just a thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frd75,<br />
&#8220;Bloatware has been a part of the Windows experience for years and it has now become part of the Mac OS. Why do we need , for instance, launch pad when a simple list in the dock provides the same usability.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apple is looking at both hardware and software.  And yes, there are a number of things that I find I never use.  But gee.<br />
 try buying a new car with out an engine.<br />
Or taking the Ford engine out of your Mustang and putting in a Chevy engine&#8230;. You can do it but &#8230;.. not really.<br />
Or buying a car with out an air conditioner,,,, and adding an aftermarket one&#8230; a real pain and it looks bad.  </p>
<p>See in todays world, you make the best design you can and press on.  Tinkering with your stuff &#8230;.. cars&#8230; computers,,,, pads,,,, cell phones..  is pretty much going the way of the horse drawn wagon. </p>
<p>Its a different world Fred and we either need to get on or watch it pass us by.   </p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: eldernorm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eldernorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BArt, 
&quot;When you focus on $ instead of customers as Apple has done for a couple of years now &quot;... er  I am curious just where you got that idea.... Reading Dell blogs again??  Maybe Samdung ads against those Mac fans???

Apple products tend to get better at the same cost.  Sorry that Apple does not produce &quot;cheap&quot; stuff, but that is not their style.  Try Android sellers.  

&quot;Walled garden&quot;,  yep, you been reading too many blogger articles by tech-less wonders.  

Just a thought,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BArt,<br />
&#8220;When you focus on $ instead of customers as Apple has done for a couple of years now &#8220;&#8230; er  I am curious just where you got that idea&#8230;. Reading Dell blogs again??  Maybe Samdung ads against those Mac fans???</p>
<p>Apple products tend to get better at the same cost.  Sorry that Apple does not produce &#8220;cheap&#8221; stuff, but that is not their style.  Try Android sellers.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Walled garden&#8221;,  yep, you been reading too many blogger articles by tech-less wonders.  </p>
<p>Just a thought,</p>
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		<title>By: Shameer Mulji</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/24/too-soon-to-tell-if-its-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-mac/#comment-1303827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shameer Mulji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget to add creative professionals that rely on heavy duty apps like Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, Premier, etc. to accomplish their work.  They definitely need the horsepower of Macs.  As SJ said in his interview at All D Conference - for the vast majority of computing users &quot;cars&quot; are in, &quot;trucks&quot; are out but that doesn&#039;t mean trucks will disappear or will never be needed.  They&#039;ll just be a niche, not a mainstream, market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to add creative professionals that rely on heavy duty apps like Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, Premier, etc. to accomplish their work.  They definitely need the horsepower of Macs.  As SJ said in his interview at All D Conference &#8211; for the vast majority of computing users &#8220;cars&#8221; are in, &#8220;trucks&#8221; are out but that doesn&#8217;t mean trucks will disappear or will never be needed.  They&#8217;ll just be a niche, not a mainstream, market.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Paredes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2013/01/24/too-soon-to-tell-if-its-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-the-mac/#comment-1303814</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas Paredes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really are missing the point of the Launcher, and the bigger question is when the iMac will have touch. As expand ability has decreased, the Mac market has increased. Others say that this is not listening to customers when it is simply not listening to the much smaller market. 

Windows 8 is not bad. You may like Windows 9...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really are missing the point of the Launcher, and the bigger question is when the iMac will have touch. As expand ability has decreased, the Mac market has increased. Others say that this is not listening to customers when it is simply not listening to the much smaller market. </p>
<p>Windows 8 is not bad. You may like Windows 9&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: frd75</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frd75]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My two year old Macs Macbook pro and Mac mini, may well be the last Macs i buy. Why? Because I am not a big fan of form over function. I will not buy a Mac like the new iMacs that are made uniquely thin at the expense of expandability. i will not buy a Mac that replaces a graphics card with Intel&#039;s chipset so that the case can be thiner. In a word I want to buy a computer not half of a computer and not a $2000 iPhone. 

Secondly, when I buy a computer, I expect the ability to set that computer up the way I want it. I don&#039;t want my hard drive full of apps i don&#039;t use and don&#039;t want. when I try to remove an app that came with the OS, I don&#039;t want to be told the lie that Chess or face time are non removable parts of the OS. 

Bloatware has been a part of the Windows experience for years and it has now become part of the Mac OS. Why do we need , for instance, launch pad when a simple list in the dock provides the same usability. 
If some people like it, fine but why am I required to have it if I do not want it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two year old Macs Macbook pro and Mac mini, may well be the last Macs i buy. Why? Because I am not a big fan of form over function. I will not buy a Mac like the new iMacs that are made uniquely thin at the expense of expandability. i will not buy a Mac that replaces a graphics card with Intel&#8217;s chipset so that the case can be thiner. In a word I want to buy a computer not half of a computer and not a $2000 iPhone. </p>
<p>Secondly, when I buy a computer, I expect the ability to set that computer up the way I want it. I don&#8217;t want my hard drive full of apps i don&#8217;t use and don&#8217;t want. when I try to remove an app that came with the OS, I don&#8217;t want to be told the lie that Chess or face time are non removable parts of the OS. </p>
<p>Bloatware has been a part of the Windows experience for years and it has now become part of the Mac OS. Why do we need , for instance, launch pad when a simple list in the dock provides the same usability.<br />
If some people like it, fine but why am I required to have it if I do not want it</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the Mac market may get smaller, it is guaranteed to stay in existence as long as there is an iPad and iPhone. Why? Simply because app developers have to use Macs to fill the App store with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the Mac market may get smaller, it is guaranteed to stay in existence as long as there is an iPad and iPhone. Why? Simply because app developers have to use Macs to fill the App store with.</p>
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