Comments on: Microsoft takes heat — on its own blog — for Google pushback

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:12:48 +0000

Great point on Google’s big lobbying spend.

It’s amusing/sad to watch Google and its fanboys ceaselessly declare Google’s Web Services “off limits” to any user that they want to ban based on OS, while they themselves purchase “net neutrality” legislation from their boys in Congress that would ban that from being done to Google itself.

“Don’t be evil,” indeed.

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:10:26 +0000

I’m not quite sure why the rants of angry Google fanboys are newsworthy…

By: Tim Acheson

Tim Acheson — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:03:46 +0000

Meanwhile, a matter of hours after Google verified that the FTC is eating out of the hands of their corporate executives, Google started to block Microsoft’s mobile OS — and was caught red-handed and after trying to explain it with outright falsehoods then had to backtrack:

http://www.businessinsider.com/google-admits-it-was-blocking-wp8-maps-2013-1

Presumably the minds of Google’s execs were focused by the EU effectively saying to Google “don’t think we’ll let you off the antitrust hook just because your FTC stooges did”.

By: jake

jake — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:09:27 +0000

yeah sure just blame microsoft, thats what everyone loves to do all the time because it’s hipster to like apple and “intelligent” to like google so microsoft gets stuck in between. But by and large microsoft is porting their apps to apple and android and they do offer all of their other services on these devices too (smartglass, bing, outlook, skydrive, internet explorer, even windows phone calendar sinc, and soon to be office) I mean, come on the company definetly has a shady past but that doesn’t mean whoever they say is doing unfair practices isn’t using unfair practices. Look at what just happened with the google maps monile website, not allowing ie to access it because “it’s not a webkit browser” when windows phone has accessed it just fine this whole time, and, if you go onto the uk google mobile maps it works just fine. So yes microsoft is a petty company that only looks out for itself, but if you think the other companies aren’t you’re only fooling yourself and thats your problem.

By: vrm

vrm — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:02:13 +0000

really, now ? How do you know all this, unless you are a lobbyist ? And it is not hard to guess who YOU lobby for.

Here’s my Q- ms has a lot of cash, lots of employees, lots of clout with businesses ( they have been around longer than Google) supposedly, why can’t they compete with Google ? Whats stopping them ? Are you claiming that “lobbying” magically makes more successful in business ? That they aren’t accomplishing any technical feats at all ? Have congressmen built their data centers, search engines, all of their IT backend, maps etc ?

By: vrm

vrm — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:54:59 +0000

ms makes a lot more money from the US govt than google does. Don’t forget that after a lengthy anti-trust lawsuit brought by DOJ, a federal judge found ms guilty of abuse and before the remedy phase was through, the administration changed and the entire lawsuit was dropped ! No questions asked but ms had padded the campaigns of both parties.

By: vrm

vrm — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:48:27 +0000

Microsoft’s use of such tactics in the past ? They still do it. Any article on google or one criticizing ms, esp in the zdnet publications, evokes a lot of responses – why ?

And why do you see posts everywhere denigrating apple and google and name calling their customers ?

Bear in mind that all the companies that ms screwed were small or startup companies, with no resources to fight them in court. ms makes 10s of billions in profit every year, gives away dividends worth 10s of billion, has > 50k employees, $50b cash and still whines. Why don’t they innovate NOW ? Something they claimed they did when they stole from smaller companies ?

By: Steven Chayer

Steven Chayer — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:10:36 +0000

so both companies have this moat around there Castle businesses, right ? Microsoft had their’s for years , bundling the OS and Google, lobbying prowress. This is business, folks. Far from being lovely bodies of water, these moats are putrid, sewer filled, vile barriers to entry. As wealth and investment protectors they are a necessary part of any arsenal. A little winning is understandable. I am so glad that it is not my job to storm the gates of any business with such a moat. However, I think long and hard about the kind of moat I might build around my businesses. It would be a doosy!

By: Edwin Draper

Edwin Draper — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 04:37:31 +0000

I am one of the com enters on MS blog slamming them for their hypocrisy. I am not a paid astroturfer by Google, I don’t think Google uses astroturfing tactic like Microsoft.

By: Alfred

Alfred — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 01:11:45 +0000

One thing more, there is a fundamental difference between a desktop OS with lots of internal APIs and a search engine. To have success with a search engine, you need to provide the best one. The cost of switching for the user is not more than typing another start URL into the browser. Microsoft obviously failed at that. What Microsoft succeeded at was to lock customers and application developers fiercely into their desktop “ecosystem”. When some copmpetitor got dangerous, he was wiped out. If you think about the development at Nokia – it was after that the company developed a high-quality smartphone OS named Maemo when an ex Microsoft manager was placed there and ended that development in a series of truly disastrous decisions which will costs Nokias existence. Still, the Maemo / MeeGo N9 sold better than Windows Lumia Phones. Read at Amazon what users think about it. Read Tomo Ahonen’s blog if you want to know more about it.