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	<title>Comments on: What the Instagram fight says about Twitter as a media platform</title>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1241578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://nvyie.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/977/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;:: nvyie ::&lt;/a&gt; and commented: 
An interesting perspective, a much better one than the &#039;moaning&#039; going around the twittersphere...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://nvyie.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/977/" rel="nofollow">:: nvyie ::</a> and commented:<br />
An interesting perspective, a much better one than the &#8216;moaning&#8217; going around the twittersphere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1238976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Chaney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 17:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gone are the days of the Shangrl-la-esque notion of the internet being this wide-open range that is free for everyone to roam without fences or gates. Apple has turned it into an app-driven world and the desire for monetization has led companies like these to erect such fences around themselves. 

&quot;Pie-in-the-sky&quot; philosophies of what the web could/should be come into conflict with the rigors of practical reality - companies have to actually make money in order to survive. But in the end, it&#039;s the user who loses. Would that there were a better way. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_range]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gone are the days of the Shangrl-la-esque notion of the internet being this wide-open range that is free for everyone to roam without fences or gates. Apple has turned it into an app-driven world and the desire for monetization has led companies like these to erect such fences around themselves. </p>
<p>&#8220;Pie-in-the-sky&#8221; philosophies of what the web could/should be come into conflict with the rigors of practical reality &#8211; companies have to actually make money in order to survive. But in the end, it&#8217;s the user who loses. Would that there were a better way. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_range" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_range</a></p>
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		<title>By: eastcoastdrummer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1236222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eastcoastdrummer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, no - the best way to think of it is as the digital world&#039;s water-cooler.

I&#039;m with candace and sober - these companies are founded on tools like search, messaging, and link-sharing - it&#039;s an inelegant evolution of their business model to focus so much on controlling their content and edging out big media. The people were doing fine on that track themselves, and now everyone online is suffering now that these big names have lost the plot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, no &#8211; the best way to think of it is as the digital world&#8217;s water-cooler.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with candace and sober &#8211; these companies are founded on tools like search, messaging, and link-sharing &#8211; it&#8217;s an inelegant evolution of their business model to focus so much on controlling their content and edging out big media. The people were doing fine on that track themselves, and now everyone online is suffering now that these big names have lost the plot.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Masson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1235124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Manuel Masson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get it : Facebook is pushing OpenGraph, in the same time Instagram is pulling back Twitter Cards. It&#039;s basically the same thing. Shame !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it : Facebook is pushing OpenGraph, in the same time Instagram is pulling back Twitter Cards. It&#8217;s basically the same thing. Shame !</p>
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		<title>By: Sober thinking</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1234949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sober thinking]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Candace - You are right...this non-stop drive to force digital advertising to work for &quot;media companies&quot; is ridiculous...so 20th century.  And why, exactly, would Twitter want to become a media company?  Aren&#039;t they paying attention...it&#039;s horrible being a media company these days, because of the reliance on advertising.  And to all of you traditional media companies out there...stop trying to build your business on the backs of other businesses and you&#039;ll be bett off...like Instabram has figured out, Twitter is starting to steal the value from your content the second you created it, published it on your site, then pushed 144 characters to Twitter.  That only makes Twitter better.  You may get a heavy traffic push on your own site for a couple of hours, but let&#039;s be honest...what&#039;s that earn you in a CPM world?  A couple hundred bucks, right?  Continuing to stick with digital advertising is a shortcut to truly thinking about the real problems here....we&#039;ve been waiting for 18 years for digital advertising to pay off...why would year 19 be any different than the first 18 years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace &#8211; You are right&#8230;this non-stop drive to force digital advertising to work for &#8220;media companies&#8221; is ridiculous&#8230;so 20th century.  And why, exactly, would Twitter want to become a media company?  Aren&#8217;t they paying attention&#8230;it&#8217;s horrible being a media company these days, because of the reliance on advertising.  And to all of you traditional media companies out there&#8230;stop trying to build your business on the backs of other businesses and you&#8217;ll be bett off&#8230;like Instabram has figured out, Twitter is starting to steal the value from your content the second you created it, published it on your site, then pushed 144 characters to Twitter.  That only makes Twitter better.  You may get a heavy traffic push on your own site for a couple of hours, but let&#8217;s be honest&#8230;what&#8217;s that earn you in a CPM world?  A couple hundred bucks, right?  Continuing to stick with digital advertising is a shortcut to truly thinking about the real problems here&#8230;.we&#8217;ve been waiting for 18 years for digital advertising to pay off&#8230;why would year 19 be any different than the first 18 years?</p>
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		<title>By: candace</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1233276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[candace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Systrom says &#039;our content&#039; so it is understandable that you use that language in this post. But it isn&#039;t their content, it is ours. All the Instagrammers. Yep, users are the losers.

Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al, are all now called media companies because they carry advertising and thereby compete for eyeballs and dollars with media companies. But I think it is confusing to call these very different businesses the same name. 

Using phrases like &quot;...content that is being created by other companies, whether it’s Instagram or the New York Times&quot; seems weird. The New York Times creates tons of original content, but Instagram Inc creates a tool. I know this is so naive, but I wish the creators could have some say. I would happily pay for a version of Instagram and of Twitter where they worked together. Why is advertising — which is so 20th century — the only business model these brilliant minds can come up with.

ps: I work in advertising. Lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Systrom says &#8216;our content&#8217; so it is understandable that you use that language in this post. But it isn&#8217;t their content, it is ours. All the Instagrammers. Yep, users are the losers.</p>
<p>Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al, are all now called media companies because they carry advertising and thereby compete for eyeballs and dollars with media companies. But I think it is confusing to call these very different businesses the same name. </p>
<p>Using phrases like &#8220;&#8230;content that is being created by other companies, whether it’s Instagram or the New York Times&#8221; seems weird. The New York Times creates tons of original content, but Instagram Inc creates a tool. I know this is so naive, but I wish the creators could have some say. I would happily pay for a version of Instagram and of Twitter where they worked together. Why is advertising — which is so 20th century — the only business model these brilliant minds can come up with.</p>
<p>ps: I work in advertising. Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimlian Dotsange</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1233254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimlian Dotsange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahem. Murdoch accuses Twitter of theft? Can&#039;t wait for your next trick. 

@Lefty, if it wasn&#039;t for Twitter, I&#039;d never have found this article. Or you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem. Murdoch accuses Twitter of theft? Can&#8217;t wait for your next trick. </p>
<p>@Lefty, if it wasn&#8217;t for Twitter, I&#8217;d never have found this article. Or you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty Goldblatt</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1232573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lefty Goldblatt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is twitter really just an internet toilet-wall anyway - for people to scrawl nonsense on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is twitter really just an internet toilet-wall anyway &#8211; for people to scrawl nonsense on?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1231765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 06:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The users are indeed the losers here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The users are indeed the losers here.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Coop PhD</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/12/05/what-the-instagram-fight-says-about-twitter-as-a-media-platform/#comment-1231269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan Coop PhD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Raptor007, You got it in one. A completely maladapted and dysfunctional response to the reality of the user experience of the internet.

Just to let you know the HCMS will be around sometime next year. What Diaspora can only dream of and the dynamic heterarchical answer to the static hierarchic monopolies of the well-known corporate walled gardens. The deconstruction commences . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptor007, You got it in one. A completely maladapted and dysfunctional response to the reality of the user experience of the internet.</p>
<p>Just to let you know the HCMS will be around sometime next year. What Diaspora can only dream of and the dynamic heterarchical answer to the static hierarchic monopolies of the well-known corporate walled gardens. The deconstruction commences . . .</p>
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