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	<title>Comments on: Apple to double its already massive fuel cell farm in North Carolina</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Doyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nuclear is not &quot;dirty&quot; power. You could &quot;tag&quot; it as &quot;not safe&quot;, but certainly not dirty like coal, or Gas, or petroleum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear is not &#8220;dirty&#8221; power. You could &#8220;tag&#8221; it as &#8220;not safe&#8221;, but certainly not dirty like coal, or Gas, or petroleum.</p>
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		<title>By: B Kellam</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B Kellam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple is most likely using a net metering contract with the utility.  This means they would power their data centers with as much of the solar and fuel cell power as possible.  When they&#039;re producing more power than they&#039;re consuming, they&#039;ll sell the excess to Duke Energy.  When they&#039;re consuming more than they&#039;re producing, they&#039;ll buy the required supplemental energy from Duke.  This is pretty typical among renewable energy projects, whether they be for homes or factories.  North Carolina has a number of generous incentives for renewable energy that make these projects all the more attractive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple is most likely using a net metering contract with the utility.  This means they would power their data centers with as much of the solar and fuel cell power as possible.  When they&#8217;re producing more power than they&#8217;re consuming, they&#8217;ll sell the excess to Duke Energy.  When they&#8217;re consuming more than they&#8217;re producing, they&#8217;ll buy the required supplemental energy from Duke.  This is pretty typical among renewable energy projects, whether they be for homes or factories.  North Carolina has a number of generous incentives for renewable energy that make these projects all the more attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: omaxabineartha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[omaxabineartha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yer! Nukes is great until the planet burbs &amp; rolls over in it&#039;s human-induced discomfort, or merely from it&#039;s groaning-pains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yer! Nukes is great until the planet burbs &amp; rolls over in it&#8217;s human-induced discomfort, or merely from it&#8217;s groaning-pains.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff X Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff X Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is great news that Apple is making use of fuel cell technology!  Fuel cells have the ability to solve a few problems at once.  Hope more will become aware of fuel cell technology.  I wanted to share a few links I found with fuel cell systems using municipal waste water treatments plants that are now up and running!  Good stuff!

&quot;New fuel cell sewage gas station in Orange County, CA may be world&#039;s first&quot;
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&amp;id=8310315

&quot;It is here today and it is deployable today,&quot; said Tom Mutchler of Air Products and Chemicals Inc., a sponsor and developer of the project.

also

Construction of world&#039;s largest fuel cell power plant.  (in South Korea? with USA developed fuel cell technology??)
http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/construction-of-worlds-largest-fuel-cell-power-plant-expected-to-commence-in-2012

and

2.8MW fuel cell using biogas now operating; Largest PPA of its kind in North America
http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/28-mw-fuel-cell-using-biogas-now-operating-largest-ppa-of-its-kind-in-north-america

one more....

&quot;Completely off the grid in New Jersey&quot;

http://energy.aol.com/2011/08/13/completely-off-the-grid/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is great news that Apple is making use of fuel cell technology!  Fuel cells have the ability to solve a few problems at once.  Hope more will become aware of fuel cell technology.  I wanted to share a few links I found with fuel cell systems using municipal waste water treatments plants that are now up and running!  Good stuff!</p>
<p>&#8220;New fuel cell sewage gas station in Orange County, CA may be world&#8217;s first&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&#038;id=8310315" rel="nofollow">http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/orange_county&#038;id=8310315</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It is here today and it is deployable today,&#8221; said Tom Mutchler of Air Products and Chemicals Inc., a sponsor and developer of the project.</p>
<p>also</p>
<p>Construction of world&#8217;s largest fuel cell power plant.  (in South Korea? with USA developed fuel cell technology??)<br />
<a href="http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/construction-of-worlds-largest-fuel-cell-power-plant-expected-to-commence-in-2012" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/construction-of-worlds-largest-fuel-cell-power-plant-expected-to-commence-in-2012</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>2.8MW fuel cell using biogas now operating; Largest PPA of its kind in North America<br />
<a href="http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/28-mw-fuel-cell-using-biogas-now-operating-largest-ppa-of-its-kind-in-north-america" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/news-events/news-archive/2012/october/28-mw-fuel-cell-using-biogas-now-operating-largest-ppa-of-its-kind-in-north-america</a></p>
<p>one more&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Completely off the grid in New Jersey&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://energy.aol.com/2011/08/13/completely-off-the-grid/" rel="nofollow">http://energy.aol.com/2011/08/13/completely-off-the-grid/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Braae</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Braae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you refer to North Carolina&#039;s &quot;mostly dirty grid power (mostly coal and nuclear)&quot;, those two energy sources should not be lumped together quite so casually.

Nuclear power produces only a tiny fraction of the CO2 emissions of coal. Yes, many people hate and/or fear nuclear power, but if we&#039;re talking about climate change, its the good guy compared to coal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you refer to North Carolina&#8217;s &#8220;mostly dirty grid power (mostly coal and nuclear)&#8221;, those two energy sources should not be lumped together quite so casually.</p>
<p>Nuclear power produces only a tiny fraction of the CO2 emissions of coal. Yes, many people hate and/or fear nuclear power, but if we&#8217;re talking about climate change, its the good guy compared to coal.</p>
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