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		<title>By: Barb Darrow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb Darrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m not sure i know of any CEO of an enterprise IT company that could not be called a shark. Ever hear of Larry Ellison? But I take your point, Bezos is sharp as a tack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not sure i know of any CEO of an enterprise IT company that could not be called a shark. Ever hear of Larry Ellison? But I take your point, Bezos is sharp as a tack.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1233258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really get tired of the articles about how &quot;everyone&quot; is going to the cloud with little factual information to back that up.  Quoting two representatives of companies that make money off businesses moving to the cloud doesn&#039;t provide much in the way of facts.

I&#039;m not against the cloud, I just tired of articles that try to make fact out of blurry statistics and statements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really get tired of the articles about how &#8220;everyone&#8221; is going to the cloud with little factual information to back that up.  Quoting two representatives of companies that make money off businesses moving to the cloud doesn&#8217;t provide much in the way of facts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against the cloud, I just tired of articles that try to make fact out of blurry statistics and statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Brunner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1213998</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph Brunner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry if I told my customers they were going to be down completely 8 hours twice in a year, and slow at other random times - they would fire us immediately.

Clearly, something is wrong at Amazon&#039;s AWS. The 2 US East outages show a lack of understanding about underlying basic things good data centers know they have to test frequently - main power and generators. Will they &quot;get it right&quot; next time? What have they done to fix the messy kludge of how their objects replicate (and wont stop replicating) when something goes wrong? sorry I&#039;m not buying they have learned anything...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I told my customers they were going to be down completely 8 hours twice in a year, and slow at other random times &#8211; they would fire us immediately.</p>
<p>Clearly, something is wrong at Amazon&#8217;s AWS. The 2 US East outages show a lack of understanding about underlying basic things good data centers know they have to test frequently &#8211; main power and generators. Will they &#8220;get it right&#8221; next time? What have they done to fix the messy kludge of how their objects replicate (and wont stop replicating) when something goes wrong? sorry I&#8217;m not buying they have learned anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1210651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know nothing about the retail side of their business so I can&#039;t comment there.

On the cloud side, they have a huge advantage that isn&#039;t discussed in the article.  They GET CLOUD because they run a huge online business.  Nobody else you mention as competitors in this article come close to that standard (except perhaps Rackspace).  IBM and HP are legacy companies and they think and work like legacy companies.  Amazon is an online company and they act like it.  Advantage:  Amazon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about the retail side of their business so I can&#8217;t comment there.</p>
<p>On the cloud side, they have a huge advantage that isn&#8217;t discussed in the article.  They GET CLOUD because they run a huge online business.  Nobody else you mention as competitors in this article come close to that standard (except perhaps Rackspace).  IBM and HP are legacy companies and they think and work like legacy companies.  Amazon is an online company and they act like it.  Advantage:  Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Goodenough</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1210604</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Goodenough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Outstanding work here. But have we forgotten the basics. Primary criteria of technology adoption have always been to look at a provider’s proven history. Perhaps look at a provider that meets enterprise criteria and then matching workloads. Savvis would be a great start]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding work here. But have we forgotten the basics. Primary criteria of technology adoption have always been to look at a provider’s proven history. Perhaps look at a provider that meets enterprise criteria and then matching workloads. Savvis would be a great start</p>
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		<title>By: mss</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1208534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How exactly do we get from the CEO of Cloudyn citing 30% of their customers being &quot;large enterprises&quot; to ... &quot;It’s a pretty safe bet that virtually every Fortune 1000 company is running workloads beyond test and dev in Amazon’s cloud&quot;.  Beyond that, is there any insight into what &quot;Business critical&quot; systems these enterprise clients are moving to AWS (or other cloud)?  If it&#039;s purely CDN services, that&#039;s quite a bit different than moving mission critical processing / data-storage facilities to AWS.

It would be nice to hear more from actual enterprise decision makers, and less from sellers and resellers of AWS.  Ken&#039;s comment about Netflix seems to neglect the fact that with OpenConnect, they&#039;ve made a big play away from AWS, not towards it ( https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect ), enabling ISPs to become their CDN rather than AWS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exactly do we get from the CEO of Cloudyn citing 30% of their customers being &#8220;large enterprises&#8221; to &#8230; &#8220;It’s a pretty safe bet that virtually every Fortune 1000 company is running workloads beyond test and dev in Amazon’s cloud&#8221;.  Beyond that, is there any insight into what &#8220;Business critical&#8221; systems these enterprise clients are moving to AWS (or other cloud)?  If it&#8217;s purely CDN services, that&#8217;s quite a bit different than moving mission critical processing / data-storage facilities to AWS.</p>
<p>It would be nice to hear more from actual enterprise decision makers, and less from sellers and resellers of AWS.  Ken&#8217;s comment about Netflix seems to neglect the fact that with OpenConnect, they&#8217;ve made a big play away from AWS, not towards it ( <a href="https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect" rel="nofollow">https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect</a> ), enabling ISPs to become their CDN rather than AWS.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1206042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Sullivan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is that stupid &quot;like&quot; button?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is that stupid &#8220;like&#8221; button?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Nico Pretorius</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1203484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nico Pretorius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first public cloud company to provide private cloud services is going to dominate the market for a while. A customer will then not need to worry about the tin, that will be provided and maintained by the public cloud company, who will provide their best-of-breed practices to the customer. The customer will be able to save costs by using a combination of private and public services offered by the provider. Enterprise software will move the same way as the smart phone environment and will be &quot;apps&quot; that run on this environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first public cloud company to provide private cloud services is going to dominate the market for a while. A customer will then not need to worry about the tin, that will be provided and maintained by the public cloud company, who will provide their best-of-breed practices to the customer. The customer will be able to save costs by using a combination of private and public services offered by the provider. Enterprise software will move the same way as the smart phone environment and will be &#8220;apps&#8221; that run on this environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Jacques</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1202434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Jacques]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot for sharing this wonderful article! It was interesting to read about the the intense kind of competition which is building amongst the entrepreneurs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for sharing this wonderful article! It was interesting to read about the the intense kind of competition which is building amongst the entrepreneurs.</p>
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		<title>By: christopherjcoleman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/21/amazons-dead-serious-about-the-enterprise-cloud/#comment-1202298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[christopherjcoleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 07:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From my own personal experience migrating to AWS was the first, most obvious, and most cost-efficient move to make. I agree with some of the statements below that there are other clouds to consider but Amazon&#039;s feature set is superb and appears to be growing fast. I&#039;ve had Amazon inquire directly regarding new feature suggestions and observed them implemented within six months. And, despite the bad media attention for a couple of outages, I believe that was poor architecture on the Clients&#039; parts - AWS provides the tools for redundancy; if companies choose not to leverage them for the cost benefit then indeed it will remain a risk. For me - I&#039;m on-board and I won&#039;t look back anytime soon. And no, I&#039;m not affiliated with Amazon in any way, shape, or form but I&#039;d be the first person to recommend it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my own personal experience migrating to AWS was the first, most obvious, and most cost-efficient move to make. I agree with some of the statements below that there are other clouds to consider but Amazon&#8217;s feature set is superb and appears to be growing fast. I&#8217;ve had Amazon inquire directly regarding new feature suggestions and observed them implemented within six months. And, despite the bad media attention for a couple of outages, I believe that was poor architecture on the Clients&#8217; parts &#8211; AWS provides the tools for redundancy; if companies choose not to leverage them for the cost benefit then indeed it will remain a risk. For me &#8211; I&#8217;m on-board and I won&#8217;t look back anytime soon. And no, I&#8217;m not affiliated with Amazon in any way, shape, or form but I&#8217;d be the first person to recommend it!</p>
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