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	<title>Comments on: Hey Mark Cuban: Of course Facebook is charging you &#8212; what did you expect?</title>
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		<title>By: cas127</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1211463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cas127]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just more proof that FB is basically just hopped-up, mutant email - in many ways, not that superior to good old-fashioned email (GOFE).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just more proof that FB is basically just hopped-up, mutant email &#8211; in many ways, not that superior to good old-fashioned email (GOFE).</p>
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		<title>By: I want to see pages I liked!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1191899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I want to see pages I liked!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about for facebook pages/groups that are not being done for money? I don&#039;t see how they can possibly be expected to &quot;pay to promote&quot;.

And as a user, I don&#039;t need facebook filtering my timeline. I&#039;m quite capable of doing it myself. Why can&#039;t I have the option to &quot;opt out&quot; of this &quot;feature&quot;? And I don&#039;t mean going to each page I have liked one by one and clicking some setting. I mean one simple button I can check or uncheck that turns off facebook&#039;s ability to do this to my timeline. There&#039;s no question it is Bait N Switch what they have done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about for facebook pages/groups that are not being done for money? I don&#8217;t see how they can possibly be expected to &#8220;pay to promote&#8221;.</p>
<p>And as a user, I don&#8217;t need facebook filtering my timeline. I&#8217;m quite capable of doing it myself. Why can&#8217;t I have the option to &#8220;opt out&#8221; of this &#8220;feature&#8221;? And I don&#8217;t mean going to each page I have liked one by one and clicking some setting. I mean one simple button I can check or uncheck that turns off facebook&#8217;s ability to do this to my timeline. There&#8217;s no question it is Bait N Switch what they have done.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Weaver</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1187643</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Weaver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boo hoo. Mark Cuban and others can no longer always get free marketing through Facebook. There are no parties here worthy of sympathy. FB is finding a new way to monetize by putting the distribution of spam behind a pay wall. Never saw that coming ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo hoo. Mark Cuban and others can no longer always get free marketing through Facebook. There are no parties here worthy of sympathy. FB is finding a new way to monetize by putting the distribution of spam behind a pay wall. Never saw that coming &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hashim Warren</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1183555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hashim Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Facebook was planning to make money by:

running ads 
offering advanced publishing and analytics to brands for a fee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Facebook was planning to make money by:</p>
<p>running ads<br />
offering advanced publishing and analytics to brands for a fee</p>
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		<title>By: Danny K Antwi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1182202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny K Antwi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the comments here have been valid and perceptive. The fact also is that facebook will do as it pleases. If you are a brand and you have crippled yourself by buying into the facebook craze without looking out for the best interest of your brand or business, that it&#039;s your folly.

Mark Cuban and any brand or business owner should be looking to refocusing strategies. Linkedin, twitter, raveorbash, myspace and other social networks exist. Use them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the comments here have been valid and perceptive. The fact also is that facebook will do as it pleases. If you are a brand and you have crippled yourself by buying into the facebook craze without looking out for the best interest of your brand or business, that it&#8217;s your folly.</p>
<p>Mark Cuban and any brand or business owner should be looking to refocusing strategies. Linkedin, twitter, raveorbash, myspace and other social networks exist. Use them</p>
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		<title>By: umakant</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1180997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[umakant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 06:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article, although I am pretty sure like any one who owns the communication channel is entitled to enforce how the access point will work. Like a TV channel decides how the pricing of the ads works, more price allows for more the of people to see the ads for longer time. Facebook is like that with additional perspective of it being personal.  We can say that Facebook is being short sighted with this approach, because brands will think that they are not being treated fairly, but I dont think calling them evil helps. Ultimately if the business decides thats its not getting ROI through Facebook, they will stop advertising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, although I am pretty sure like any one who owns the communication channel is entitled to enforce how the access point will work. Like a TV channel decides how the pricing of the ads works, more price allows for more the of people to see the ads for longer time. Facebook is like that with additional perspective of it being personal.  We can say that Facebook is being short sighted with this approach, because brands will think that they are not being treated fairly, but I dont think calling them evil helps. Ultimately if the business decides thats its not getting ROI through Facebook, they will stop advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McAndrew</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1180574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark McAndrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You trusted Facebook? Mwah-ha-haa!&quot;

Yes, we did. Being screwed over in business - or in life - should be a rare and unpleasant surprise, not the expected outcome. Nor is exploitation ever the victim&#039;s fault.

And please stop saying &quot;it&#039;s free&quot; - a page of 200 fans might be free, but our 500k fans cost us five figures in Facebook adverts.

So many people don&#039;t know the half of it. Keep hearing &#039;well, pages could never contact all their fans anyway.&#039; Yes, they could - that&#039;s the whole point. FB scrapped group messaging in Sept 2011.

There are two types of article about the fan page fiasco; those that defend Facebook, and those written by page owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You trusted Facebook? Mwah-ha-haa!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, we did. Being screwed over in business &#8211; or in life &#8211; should be a rare and unpleasant surprise, not the expected outcome. Nor is exploitation ever the victim&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>And please stop saying &#8220;it&#8217;s free&#8221; &#8211; a page of 200 fans might be free, but our 500k fans cost us five figures in Facebook adverts.</p>
<p>So many people don&#8217;t know the half of it. Keep hearing &#8216;well, pages could never contact all their fans anyway.&#8217; Yes, they could &#8211; that&#8217;s the whole point. FB scrapped group messaging in Sept 2011.</p>
<p>There are two types of article about the fan page fiasco; those that defend Facebook, and those written by page owners.</p>
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		<title>By: joelkline</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1180172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joelkline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. I&#039;m revitalizing my old MySpace account as I type this. With Cuban&#039;s big money and big ego behind it, I&#039;m sure it will succeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;m revitalizing my old MySpace account as I type this. With Cuban&#8217;s big money and big ego behind it, I&#8217;m sure it will succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thomson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1180162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Thomson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[facebook has become a pay service for all users
not just businesses
you cant reach your friends without paying facebook

EVERYONE PAYS FACEBOOK TODAY NOT JUST USERS

its useless to write a post that isnt seen in your friends NEWS FEEDS
facebook knows this
you are not going to go to your 150 friends profiles and see whats new each day

facebook is blocking word of mouth and communicating with your friends]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>facebook has become a pay service for all users<br />
not just businesses<br />
you cant reach your friends without paying facebook</p>
<p>EVERYONE PAYS FACEBOOK TODAY NOT JUST USERS</p>
<p>its useless to write a post that isnt seen in your friends NEWS FEEDS<br />
facebook knows this<br />
you are not going to go to your 150 friends profiles and see whats new each day</p>
<p>facebook is blocking word of mouth and communicating with your friends</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2012/11/14/hey-mark-cuban-of-course-facebook-is-charging-you-what-did-you-expect/#comment-1179627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Unethical part is that Facebook promoted their Ads (that are paid for by businesses) as being unique and superior because if a user clicked on an Ad then decided to like your page, you have a free connection to that user from then on. 

With the changes they are taking away something already bought and paid for.  They are not just changing the value of future spending with them, but diminishing the return you get, dramatically, of money spent with them in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Unethical part is that Facebook promoted their Ads (that are paid for by businesses) as being unique and superior because if a user clicked on an Ad then decided to like your page, you have a free connection to that user from then on. </p>
<p>With the changes they are taking away something already bought and paid for.  They are not just changing the value of future spending with them, but diminishing the return you get, dramatically, of money spent with them in the past.</p>
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